Madara vs Itach

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I've seen a question on here before about Madara vs Itachi and people kept saying madara has the rinnegan and woodstyle but those people fail to realise he obtained the rinnegan and wood style before he died and he was old and frail they keep saying that Madara is way stronger than Itachi... Itachi has a sword that could seal Edo Madara and if you want to put Edo Madara vs Edo Itachi they're both immortal Itachi would just seal him. However if you put Madara in his prime vs Itachi who do you think would win? I think Itachi would btw Edo Madara isn't him in his prime his prime is around the time he had the nine tails but suppose he couldn't use the ninetails (I don't think he could even manipulate it while fighting another sharigan user especially one who is adept in Genjutsu.) who would win and I'd also like to ask about Itachi vs Tobi I don't even think Tobi can use Susano'o
 

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Madara does not need the Rin'negan or Mokuton to defeat an opponent such as Itachi, Perfect susano'o, superior nin-tai-jutsu and a chakra pool such as his is enough to stomp Itachi. Itachi himself admitted he was inferior:

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First Of All,
Welcome to the Base.
And My Opinion is that Madara>Itachi, Unless Itachi Manages to Seal him with the Totskua Blade...
Which is highly Debatable.
Besides Itachi Admitted Inferiority
 

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Madara does not need the Rin'negan or Mokuton to defeat an opponent such as Itachi, Perfect susano'o, superior nin-tai-jutsu and a chakra pool such as his is enough to stomp Itachi. Itachi himself admitted he was inferior:

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^^All that is needed up here
 

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Wtf? Madara completley annihilates Itachi. Quit acting like the blade is that powerful, I doubt it could penetrate susanoo and even if it can madara can just dodge it. Nagato easily beats Itachi, what makes you think Madara can't?
 

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Wtf? Madara completley annihilates Itachi. Quit acting like the blade is that powerful, I doubt it could penetrate susanoo and even if it can madara can just dodge it. Nagato easily beats Itachi, what makes you think Madara can't?
How would you know? Is there any fact confirming this statement? From our knowledge, the two legendary items (Totsuka Blade & Yata Mirror) is "invincible" and currently has no weakness. Sorry but since Itachi has those two OP items, I would have to say Itachi is stronger than Madara. It's not my fault that Kishi can't write a proper story.
 

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Welcome to the base. And madara wins
 

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welcome to NB *_*.
btw madara would EAT itachi, wouldn't even call it a fight, more of a chase. *_*
 
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How would you know? Is there any fact confirming this statement? From our knowledge, the two legendary items (Totsuka Blade & Yata Mirror) is "invincible" and currently has no weakness. Sorry but since Itachi has those two OP items, I would have to say Itachi is stronger than Madara. It's not my fault that Kishi can't write a proper story.

Are you denying the Manga? Funny how you people think Itachi would start every fight by whipping out his Complete susano'o to completely deplete his chakra pools. Would be a rather idiotic move, which is why he has never done so unless necessary. Even given the Case Itachi brings out such weapons, Madara already has canonical knowledge of the weapons along with their function and would know to stay away; Itachi would be wasting his time and chakra. Madara is portrayed an excellent Long range fighter; wielding ninjutsu such as Kouka Meshittsu and His version of eyes enables him to Maintain Susano'o for extended periods with little to no chakra depletion as he evidently maintained for a full day while fighting Hashirama, merely supporting the fact that the Uchiha clan was hailed unparalleled in terms of chakra. Wielding the Superior Dōjutsu, 'Eien no Mangekyō Sharingan', containing elements such as Perfect Susano'o and the ability to summon and simultaneously control the Kyuubi at will is nothing short of over-kill.
 
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Are you denying the Manga? Funny how you people think Itachi would start every fight by whipping out his Complete susano'o to completely deplete his chakra pools. Would be a rather idiotic move, which is why he has never done so unless necessary. Even given the Case Itachi brings out such weapons, Madara already has canonical knowledge of the weapons along with their function and would know to stay away; Itachi would be wasting his time and chakra. Madara is portrayed an excellent Long range fighter; wielding ninjutsu such as Kouka Meshittsu and His version of eyes enables him to Maintain Susano'o for extended periods with little to no chakra depletion as he evidently maintained this for a full day, merely supporting the fact that the Uchiha clan was hailed unparalleled in terms of chakra. Wielding the Superior Dōjutsu, 'Eien no Mangekyō Sharingan', containing elements such as Perfect Susano'o and the ability to summon and simultaneously control the Kyuubi at will is nothing short of over-kill.

Well not Edo-Itachi and I'm sure as hell Itachi will whip it out as soon as he sees Edo-Madara. What advantages does Madara even have on Edo-itachi? As far as I know, the only weaknesses to Edo's is sealing and Itachi has the upper advantage. How am I denying the manga, if anything you are. You can't just assume that Madara can dodge it, sure he'll be a lot more cautious but he can't dodge it lol. That's like me saying that Itachi will dodge all of Madara's techniques, which isn't true at all. Itachi is the smarter one and I'm sure he'll find a way to out-smart Madara and hit him. If it comes to non-edo then yeah Madara will take it easily. Here is how I see it, from the manga.

Edo-Itachi > Edo-Madara (Mid-high diff.)
Madara > Itachi (Easily Madara will make Itachi his b!tch)

(If you really want to discuss this fight, just leave a vm which is better than starting a flame war here)
 
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Well not Edo-Itachi and I'm sure as hell Itachi will whip it out as soon as he sees Edo-Madara. What advantages does Madara even have on Edo-itachi? As far as I know, the only weaknesses to Edo's is sealing and Itachi has the upper advantage. How am I denying the manga, if anything you are. You can't just assume that Madara can dodge it, sure he'll be a lot more cautious but he can't dodge it lol. That's like me saying that Itachi will dodge all of Madara's techniques, which isn't true at all. Itachi is the smarter one and I'm sure he'll find a way to out-smart Madara and hit him. If it comes to non-edo then yeah Madara will take it easily. Here is how I see it, from the manga.

Edo-Itachi > Edo-Madara (Mid-high diff.)
Madara > Itachi (Easily Madara will make Itachi his b!tch)

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Once more, Madara already has canonical knowledge of the weapons along with their function and would know to stay away. Itachi will pose no threat if at a distance and the bold is merely a hypothetical conjecture in your favor. Maybe you forget that Edo-Madara possesses Mokuton and The Rin'negan, which provides him with various alternatives of finishing Edo itachi as he can simply put him to sleep with Flower Tree world (something itachi has no canonical knowledge of) and finish him off with Ningendō's , or, Summon the Gedō Mazō and allow it to seal itachi with it's Soul dragon's as wielding the Rin'negan allows the user access to all it's abilities. Itachi stand no chance against Madara whether both Edo's, or Both alive as he is always inferior.
 

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Once more, Madara already has canonical knowledge of the weapons along with their function and would know to stay away. Itachi will pose no threat if at a distance and the bold is merely a hypothetical conjecture in your favor. Maybe you forget that Edo-Madara possesses Mokuton and The Rin'negan, which provides him with various alternatives of finishing Edo itachi as he can simply put him to sleep with Flower Tree world (something itachi has no canonical knowledge of) and finish him off with Ningendō's , or, Summon the Gedō Mazō and allow it to seal itachi with it's Soul dragon's as wielding the Rin'negan allows the user access to all it's abilities. Itachi stand no chance against Madara whether both Edo's, or Both alive as he is always inferior.

Like I said before, if you really want to have this discussion then send me a pm and I'll gladly argue back.
 

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Wtf? Madara completley annihilates Itachi. Quit acting like the blade is that powerful, I doubt it could penetrate susanoo and even if it can madara can just dodge it. Nagato easily beats Itachi, what makes you think Madara can't?
why drag nagato in this and no itachi pwns nagato and madara pwns itachi
 

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How would you know? Is there any fact confirming this statement? From our knowledge, the two legendary items (Totsuka Blade & Yata Mirror) is "invincible" and currently has no weakness. Sorry but since Itachi has those two OP items, I would have to say Itachi is stronger than Madara. It's not my fault that Kishi can't write a proper story.

You Itachi fans give a whole new definition to stupidity.
Wow your overrating the blade. The blade can be dodged, there were no speed feats implied for it do yes it can most certainly be dodged. Also the shielded only coveres a part of the susanoo and was said the deflect ticks by changing its nature so no it can not block everything. Also wood style absorbs chakra so it would destroy susanoo, and Itachi without his susanoo is child's play to someone like Madara.

I'm just gonna end the debate with this, when Itachi shows feats to survive a meteor, Chou shinra tensei, Soul dragon eater, Chibaku tensei, or PS which destroys mountains with a sing of a sword then you can attempt to say Itachi can beat Madara or any Rinnengan user at that.

Please stop spewing your nonsense hear.
 

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You Itachi fans give a whole new definition to stupidity.
Wow your overrating the blade. The blade can be dodged, there were no speed feats implied for it do yes it can most certainly be dodged. Also the shielded only coveres a part of the susanoo and was said the deflect ticks by changing its nature so no it can not block everything. Also wood style absorbs chakra so it would destroy susanoo, and Itachi without his susanoo is child's play to someone like Madara.

I'm just gonna end the debate with this, when Itachi shows feats to survive a meteor, Chou shinra tensei, Soul dragon eater, Chibaku tensei, or PS which destroys mountains with a sing of a sword then you can attempt to say Itachi can beat Madara or any Rinnengan user at that.

Please stop spewing your nonsense hear.

If we are talking madara with out rennigan an wood style vs itachi then it would come down to susano an who's is stronger witch I go with madara at the moment madara has nothing else over itachi..

As for the nagato thing that also be a good fight but I pick nagato...Nagato won't win easy I can tell you that
 
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Lets me clear itachis arsenal and its weaknesses

1. Yata doesnt give u protection from all angles only infront of mirror
2. Totsaka only seal still objects moving objects cannot be sealed
3. Bcoz of low stamina itachi cant spam ama n tsuki without building up chakra which takes time and itachi cant spam ama like sasuke does
4. Itachi can maintain susanoo 3 or 4 minutes tops he can only use those weapons when his susanoo completely materilize thats maybe for 2 minutes ? Tell me how itachi can beat madara with any of his arsenal bypassing giant susanoo of Legendary madara
 
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