Hashirama Loses To Sasuke Without Plot Shield

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Plausible but still overall, Hashirama > Sasuke.
 

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Mad? Not at all. I've already shown that Zetsu and Madara get their abilities from Hashirama. Madara's new techs all came from Hashirama and that includes Mayfly.

Enton is simply the manipulation of the flames. Enton doesn't spawn where the user looks like Amaterasu does so that's why it can be evaded.

Nope, you were clearly mad, hence the whole "Can. You. Read." period bit.

Show me a scan of Hashi using Mayfly then I'll continue this with you, until then I'm right, GG though.
 

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Nope, you were clearly mad, hence the whole "Can. You. Read." period bit.

Show me a scan of Hashi using Mayfly then I'll continue this with you, until then I'm right, GG though.

Madara getting all his abilities from Hashirama proves that Mayfly belonged to Hashirama.

Scans that say Madara got extra abilities besides Hashirama's? Didn't think so.
 

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Stretching my memory a bit here, but couldn't Hashi use the fire sealing technique? This can capture Amaterasu as shown by Jiraiya...ergo Enton is useless with how slow it burns, Hashi can just seal it. Next is Susanoo. Hashi is shown breaking through Madara's complete one which is, and has demonstrated to be, stronger than sasuke's.
So that's game set match, Sasuke just doesn't have the tools to be Hashi.
 

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Nope, you were clearly mad, hence the whole "Can. You. Read." period bit.

Show me a scan of Hashi using Mayfly then I'll continue this with you, until then I'm right, GG though.

Madara, zetsu and Yamato all have been shown to use mayfly. What do they all have in common? Hashi's abilities granted by having hashi cells.

Going by your logic Enton has never shown the anility to kill someone other then fodder zetsu. Even then tenten has killed more zetsu.
 

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Madara getting all his abilities from Hashirama proves that Mayfly belonged to Hashirama.

Scans that say Madara got extra abilities besides Hashirama's? Didn't think so.

Zetsu stated Itachi was invincible with Susano'o
Amaterasu was said to be as hot as the sun
Hiruzen was said to be the greatest Hokage

^ All things people said, doesn't mean they're true. Try again though.
 

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Zetsu stated Itachi was invincible with Susano'o
Amaterasu was said to be as hot as the sun
Hiruzen was said to be the greatest Hokage

^ All things people said, doesn't mean they're true. Try again though.

This would be a good counter...had Madara not proved that his new abilities came from Hashirama by proceeding to use his Mokuton techniques. Not to mention there is a difference between a factual statement and opinions. Everything you posted was an opinion of another character.

-Opinion, Hype.
-Hype, Hyperbole.
-Opinion.

Still waiting on those scans...
 

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This would be a good counter...had Madara not proved that his new abilities came from Hashirama by proceeding to use his Mokuton techniques.

Still waiting on those scans...

Scan of Hashirama using mayfly, then we'll continue.
 

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I really found it hilarious that one of your arguments in the OP is that Mokuton has never been saw resisting amaterasu/enton, therefore it can't resist it, as if a 'absence of evidence is the evidence of absence ' fallacious statement is going to help your case.
 

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Madara has mayfly.
He got all his new abilities from Hashirama's cells.
Hashirama has mayfly.

Still waiting on those scans...

Madara stated he has Hashi's abilities;
Hashi has never shown mayfly;
Mayfly can't be confirmed to be Hashi's technique.

Still waiting on that scan tho
 

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Hash would play around with sasuke...Beat Madara and Kyuubi, Sasuke has a shitty Susan'o and Tsukuyomi...
 

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Madara stated he has Hashi's abilities;
Hashi has never shown mayfly;
Mayfly can't be confirmed to be Hashi's technique.

Still waiting on that scan tho

Madara got new abilities from Hashirama's cells.
Mayfly is one of those new abilities.
Hashirama has Mayfly.

Zetsu is Hashirama's clone.
Zetsu is made from his cells.
Zetsu can use Mayfly.
Hashirama can use Mayfly.

Your fallacious argument is hilarious.

Absence of evidence is the evidence of absence.

Still waiting on those scans...
 

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Madara got new abilities from Hashirama's cells.
Mayfly is one of those new abilities.
Hashirama has Mayfly.

Zetsu is Hashirama's clone.
Zetsu is made from his cells.
Zetsu can use Mayfly.
Hashirama can use Mayfly.

Your fallacious argument is hilarious.

Absence of evidence is the evidence of absence.

Still waiting on those scans...

Prove MayFly is Hashi's technique

Still waiting on scans bro
 

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Prove MayFly is Hashi's technique

Still waiting on scans bro

Zetsu-Uses Hashirama's abilities.
Madara-Got Hashirama's abilities from his cells

Madara got Mayfly from Hashirama unless you can tell me where else he got it from? Oh wait, you can't.

Still waiting on those scans...
 

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Yamato also used it, and where do all of his techniques come from? You guessed it! Hashirama!

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How about those scans?
 

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Zetsu-Uses Hashirama's abilities.
Madara-Got Hashirama's abilities from his cells

Madara got Mayfly from Hashirama unless you can tell me where else he got it from? Oh wait, you can't.

Still waiting on those scans...

Yamato also used it, and where do all of his techniques come from? You guessed it! Hashirama!

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Too bad you can't prove it's not all coincidence :/

Hashirama doesn't have MayFly unless it's shown or stated he has it, sorry bud.
 

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Too bad you can't prove it's not all coincidence :/

Hashirama doesn't have MayFly unless it's shown or stated he has it, sorry bud.

Mokuton Bunshin used it.
Yamato gets all his abilities from Hashirama
Hashirama can use it.

Slap yourself for the bold.
 
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