Most underrated KAGE

[KingHashirama]

-Tsukuyomi is a toss up.

-A needed V2 level speed to dodge it. When you can provide proof of her being able to move that fast then you can say she can dodge it. The fact that you said she can dodge it shows that you don't read the manga as clearly as you should be.

-She only managed to crack a V1 Susanoo, she isn't breaking a V3 Susanoo with Yata Mirror.

Your opinion is foolish because it isn't backed up with any facts. This poor response shows it.

- -Tsukuyomi can be avoided. Otherwise Itachi >> SO6P and Hashirama.
- -Why would she fight Itachi's Yata mirror Susano'o.. instead of letting him strain out his MS like a idiot... which he is not... Yata only comes to help if your dealing with techniques like Kirin, Susano, or anything else. And she cracked V1 susnao with 1 punch.....

- I stated dodge it and i stand by it. Any sensor who has the ability to sense chakra can dodge it. Her quicksteps have gone unnoticed by even the likes of Kabuto and Orochimaru.


If my response is foolish then your response must be idiotic. Since you also provide no facts and instead use the logic of 1 move K.Os


What is he gonna do if he can't even stand on ground. What is he gonna do if Tsunade blitzes him and messes up his nerve system? What is he gonna do when she knocks him out like she did to Shizune. Please do tell me.

 

[H a n]

Hm...I see where you are going with this. Tsunade is a remarkable shinobi. I wouldn't say she is better in hand to hand combat against people like rock lee and Guy but if she hits you, you will be changed forever. 1st Hokage failed because he allowed someone like Madara live(showing he had a heart.) 2nd Failed because of how he treated the Uchiha clan in the first place.(Creating evil Madara after he killed off his bro.) 3rd failed because he allowed someone like Danzo to put in his two cent. 4th kage didnt fail..Your post kinda made him look bad because he didn't live aslong as the others due to saving the village. To think about it, the Hidden Leaf may have been destroyed if Minato didnt die sealing that naughty Kurama away.

 

[HadouKage]

- -Tsukuyomi can be avoided. Otherwise Itachi >> SO6P and Hashirama.
- -Why would she fight Itachi's Yata mirror Susano'o.. instead of letting him strain out his MS like a idiot... which he is not... Yata only comes to help if your dealing with techniques like Kirin, Susano, or anything else. And she cracked V1 susnao with 1 punch.....

- I stated dodge it and i stand by it. Any sensor who has the ability to sense chakra can dodge it. Her quicksteps have gone unnoticed by even the likes of Kabuto and Orochimaru.


If my response is foolish then your response must be idiotic. Since you also provide no facts and instead use the logic of 1 move K.Os


What is he gonna do if he can't even stand on ground. What is he gonna do if Tsunade blitzes him and messes up his nerve system? What is he gonna do when she knocks him out like she did to Shizune. Please do tell me.

Wow let me stop you there, you are extremely overating Tsunade now

1. First of all this is false, if you recall back to Itachi vs Sasuke, Sasuke tried to attack Itachi's sussano (physically) with Yata and what happened? It knocked him back. I don't know where you got this from, it even states in the databook that it has such a feat, no one is speculating that

2. The only one who has proven to sense Ama was Nagato. Not even Karin (hailed to be the best sensor) has not shown a feat of this. So you cannot assume that Tsunade can sense it. Nagato can be hailed as better or on par with Karin (debatable) as he was able to sense Jiraya infiltrating the village

3. To be honest, they kinda are. There is nothing illogical about Itachi one shooting Tsunade as he caught people in genjutsu without them noticing before as shown in the manga. Thing is, Itachi never wanted to kill the people he caught genjutsu in even though he had the full capability too

4. Blitz? I don't know where you get this from, pretty sure Itachi >>>> PTS Kabuto & No hands Oro in all aspects. A very poor comparison

And still you haven't refuted my last post directed toward you :|

 

[Koha]

Welp, this debate has completely gone to Hell.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

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[Wind Squid]

Acomplishments don't really mean squat if you can get solo'd by Gai.
Iruka pretty much taught every possible future Hokage candidate, doesn't mean his power levels somehow increased from that

 

[closecombat22]

dude this is crazy what makes Tsunade stronge is she the tank qeen of the nu

 

[FleeOnSight]

Minato was able to save the village from being completely destroyed by a enemy more powerful than pain. Tsunade couldn't even stopped pain naruto minatos son had to do that. After it was destroyed by pain.

Let me ask you this. How tf does a HOKAGE see that the village has been intruded by the leader of akatsuki and tells her adviser to call naruto back so he can fight the enemy. Uh no bitch that's your job not narutos. Wtf that doesn't even make sense. The hokage is suppose to protect the village. The hokage is suppose to be the strongest ninja in the village but she called for naruto to fight. I have no problems with tsunade I do believe she is underrated but she is still in last place to me.

 

[Joshutsu]

Regardless of her fear of blood, if she was indeed as skilled as the OT says, then she wouldn't have been stabbed with a mere shuriken in the first place by a lesser character at the time

If it was any other kage fighting Kabuto in her place, they would have wiped the floor with him regardless of their condition or even if they had a blood phobia

Well Kabuto was a spy, and was able to take out anbu, but otherwise i think Tsunade was hadicaped for that match to show her development into the 5th hokage overcoming her fears etc. The stab thing was kinda easy to pull off she just rushed in the punch him her body was already altered by her medical ninjutsu so she was kinda sluggish i don't see why it was that hard to stab her when she was coming in for a punch.

If any of the other kage had blood phobia i doubt it, esp if it was as bad as hers.

 

[Joshutsu]

Minato was able to save the village from being completely destroyed by a enemy more powerful than pain. Tsunade couldn't even stopped pain naruto minatos son had to do that. After it was destroyed by pain.

Let me ask you this. How tf does a HOKAGE see that the village has been intruded by the leader of akatsuki and tells her adviser to call naruto back so he can fight the enemy. Uh no bitch that's your job not narutos. Wtf that doesn't even make sense. The hokage is suppose to protect the village. The hokage is suppose to be the strongest ninja in the village but she called for naruto to fight. I have no problems with tsunade I do believe she is underrated but she is still in last place to me.

I am not disputing the fact she is in last place by power, but her calling naruto is doing her job to protect the village, maybe she knew she wasn't enough, i mean these are the people that killed jiraya, and before Naruto came in she was about to put her life on the line for the village facing up to pain with almsot all her chakara out even then i think she woulda been able to take out at least 2 paths before going down with her stamina.

But you have to at least give her props for her bravery, she doesn't really care how strong someone is if she has to fight you she will do her best and not try to abandon ship like another kage i know of not from leaf ofc

 

[KidGamer65]

- -Tsukuyomi can be avoided. Otherwise Itachi >> SO6P and Hashirama.
- -Why would she fight Itachi's Yata mirror Susano'o.. instead of letting him strain out his MS like a idiot... which he is not... Yata only comes to help if your dealing with techniques like Kirin, Susano, or anything else. And she cracked V1 susnao with 1 punch.....

If she does this then he can simply put down Susanoo, not that hard.

- I stated dodge it and i stand by it. Any sensor who has the ability to sense chakra can dodge it. Her quicksteps have gone unnoticed by even the likes of Kabuto and Orochimaru.

She isn't as fast as A so she isn't dodging it. She isn't a sensor so she isn't dodging it.

If my response is foolish then your response must be idiotic. Since you also provide no facts and instead use the logic of 1 move K.Os

You sound stupid.

-Amaterasu spawns on target: FACT.
-A needed V2 Level Speed to dodge it: FACT.

The only one here spouting nonsense is the one who claims Tsunade can dodge what A needed V2 level speed+Shunshin to dodge despite her being slower than that by a noticeable amount.

What is he gonna do if he can't even stand on ground. What is he gonna do if Tsunade blitzes him and messes up his nerve system? What is he gonna do when she knocks him out like she did to Shizune. Please do tell me.

Tsunade blitzing a Sharingan user? Slap yourself.

What is she going to do when he uses Amaterasu? Nothing because she can't evade it.

It seems the Tsunadetards are crawling out of their holes..

 

[Lightbringer]

Well Kabuto was a spy, and was able to take out anbu, but otherwise i think Tsunade was hadicaped for that match to show her development into the 5th hokage overcoming her fears etc. The stab thing was kinda easy to pull off she just rushed in the punch him her body was already altered by her medical ninjutsu so she was kinda sluggish i don't see why it was that hard to stab her when she was coming in for a punch.

If any of the other kage had blood phobia i doubt it, esp if it was as bad as hers.

exactly, she's sluggish and still is....even the Raikage said so

Easily stabbing Tsunade just shows how she isn't a great fighter, she keeps underestimating her opponents and overestimating her abilities

What I mean is, if any other kage fought Kabuto they wouldn't have gotten stabbed in the first place.

I don't think there was any battle we've seen Tsunade fight where she wasn't stabbed multiple times

 

[Draphsin]

exactly, she's sluggish and still is....even the Raikage said so

Easily stabbing Tsunade just shows how she isn't a great fighter, she keeps underestimating her opponents and overestimating her abilities

What I mean is, if any other kage fought Kabuto they wouldn't have gotten stabbed in the first place.

I don't think there was any battle we've seen Tsunade fight where she wasn't stabbed multiple times

Idk if you've already answered this but who do you think is the most underrated?

 

[Lightbringer]

Idk if you've already answered this but who do you think is the most underrated?

It's hard to answer lol

Hashirama is overrated

Tsunade was never really impressive

Before it was Tobrima being underrated and Minato overrated, now it's the opposite

So I guess either Minato or Hiruzen

 

[Draphsin]

It's hard to answer lol

Hashirama is overrated

Tsunade was never really impressive

Before it was Tobrima being underrated and Minato overrated, now it's the opposite

So I guess either Minato or Hiruzen

Yeah ill agree with hiruzen being underrated, but IMO minato is just fine where he is Lol.

I think the trollkage is pretty damn underrated too :yeah:

 

[Decimation206]

Agreed Tsunade is a beast imo regardless of what people say. Also i disagree on Itachi being weaker than all the Hokage. Maybe Hashirama but all the others no. Think about it Itachi is stronger than Orochimaru and Oro killed Hiruzen soooo by default that means Itachi is stronger than hiruzen. And i'd be willing to bet he is stronger than Tsunade, and Tobirama.

 

[Lightbringer]

Yeah ill agree with hiruzen being underrated, but IMO minato is just fine where he is Lol.

I think the trollkage is pretty damn underrated too :yeah:

lol which one is the trollkage again? haha

But yeah Hiruzen is definitely underrated. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the 2nd strongest

As for Minato, yeah he is somewhat fine where he is but I definitely know he's still got more up his sleeve. People overrate his speed and FTG but I'm sure they'll balance it out once we see him in action again.

 

[Draphsin]

lol which one is the trollkage again? haha

But yeah Hiruzen is definitely underrated. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the 2nd strongest

As for Minato, yeah he is somewhat fine where he is but I definitely know he's still got more up his sleeve. People overrate his speed and FTG but I'm sure they'll balance it out once we see him in action again.

Lol trollkage =

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And yeah i agree about minato, i feel as though kishi is gonna give him a few more techniques. Im just worried about the fanboys reaction when they see them

Minato fanboys are 1 of the 3 worst IMO U_U

 

[Lightbringer]

Lol trollkage =

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And yeah i agree about minato, i feel as though kishi is gonna give him a few more techniques. Im just worried about the fanboys reaction when they see them

Minato fanboys are 1 of the 3 worst IMO U_U

oh yeah definitely, I used to think the Minato fanboys were worse than Itachi ones. But ever since Tobirama came into play, Minato's hype subsided

And hell yeah, I love the troll Kage. I personally don't underrate him since I believe he's boss but yeah I'm sure he's underrated as a whole

Although people always put him as the strongest Mizukage which I agree

 

[KingHashirama]

If she does this then he can simply put down Susanoo, not that hard.


She isn't as fast as A so she isn't dodging it. She isn't a sensor so she isn't dodging it.




You sound stupid.

-Amaterasu spawns on target: FACT.
-A needed V2 Level Speed to dodge it: FACT.

The only one here spouting nonsense is the one who claims Tsunade can dodge what A needed V2 level speed+Shunshin to dodge despite her being slower than that by a noticeable amount.



Tsunade blitzing a Sharingan user? Slap yourself.

What is she going to do when he uses Amaterasu? Nothing because she can't evade it.

It seems the Tsunadetards are crawling out of their holes..

Then ok.. that is why i'm saying there would be no point in bring out the susano'o in a taijutu fight...

And is A stated to be the only one able to dodge it? Read my posts clearly before making up your random posts about what I said. She isn't a sensor? Are you high? Medical ninjas focus specific on the chakra body gives out. How in the blue hell can you even say she isn't a sensor.... lmao.

You sounded mad stupid when you said she wasn't a sensor.

Tsunade blitzing a Sharingan user is no big deal..... She can easily through a wall at him and blitz him. So I don't see your point. Go learn what blitz is before saying who can't or who can.

She can't evade it? She doesn't have to stay still , she can easily prolong the fight. And as far as Tsukuyomi goes.. chakra eruption is the counter to that, since tsunade has the best chakra control in the manga.... She can get out of it.
(If you say no, you have no evidence to back you up.....)

And it seems like Itachi is superior to the Hokage of the leaf. What a dumb statement.. hes not even on the same greatness level.