Confusion about Susanoo. Please read.

[Nameer]

we cant know that. Maybe his decease was caused by the overuse of his sharingan.

It's explained By Madara

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I just though of this. I don't think Sasuke received Susanoo from Itachi, but rather it was Naruto who received Susanoo. This is the power Itachi hopes Naruto never has to use, because if he has to use it, it means that Sasuke tried to destroy Konoha. And the use of Susanoo means the certain destruction of Sasuke.

Susanoo was used after the meeting of Naruto which means he didn't transfer it to Naruto
it's said by Madara that Itachi has transferred his Mangekyo Sharingan jutsus to Saskue which there is possibility Saskue has Susanoo

Amaterasu can be sealed away.. It can be escaped too. And it is not as deadly at it was claimed to be. Karin survived it, Sasuke too. Yes, Itachi cancelled amaterasu, but still it had some effect.

WTF!!!
The 8-tailed beast was fucked up by Amaterasu and Amaterasu is Eyesight speed which is unavoidable jutsu

 

[NineTailedSage]

Obviously, duh.

 

[Preta]

Posted this in another thread, thought it would be good here aswell as people seem to be taking these data book quotes literally and saying Susanno>all, as that is clearly not the case.

I have some info from the data book about Pain below, clearly this info did not turn out to be 100% accurate, yet it was there. You need to realize that for a story to be exciting, every superman must have his Kryptonite, every jutsu we have ever seen has had a counter, Susanno is no different. If Sussano is unstoppable then Pain is apparently an unkillable god. Also note that each data book only reveals as far as the manga has gone and an immortal in the data book one week can be dead in the manga the next.

~~Info on Pain from Naruto Databook 2~~
-People will know pain. Nations will know pain. The world will know pain!!

-The shinobi who bears the eyes of the Six Paths. The God born of conflict.<<< Pain is a god?

Page 3

-His Divine Will is like a sword, for grand is His desire...

-The deeds of God will taint even the darkest of nights in a bloody red.<<<God again?

Page 3

-Invincibility, as befits a God. And a mountain of mysteries behind it.<<<Pain is Invincible? Didn't they say the same thing about Susanno..hmm?

[Unkillable]
No matter the kind of jutsu employed, a God cannot be killed. Unkillable, thus invincible... The one Path who made it into the kekkai space suspended all activity, but it is unclear if he died or not.<<<This sounds familiar...Unkillable in the same way as Susanno..hmm?

Take from it what you will, but the point is obvious. Sorry to dissapoint all the Itachi fans. =(

 

[Nameer]

Posted this in another thread, thought it would be good here aswell as people seem to be taking these data book quotes literally and saying Susanno>all, as that is clearly not the case.

Read about Susanno before posting this
Susanno is jutsu not Ninja,you comparing between them
It said about Pain to be Invincible because of his Rinnegan which provide him to use any jutsu from any type (Fire,Water...etc),Pain can coat any jutsu in addition his unique jutsu (Banshō Ten'in,Shinra Tensei.....etc) that's why he is Invincible.
we are talking about Susanno defense and attack which is absolute Invincible while Pain has weak spot like Shinra Tensei required 5 seconds to recharge which Pain rely on it as his defense
do you have an evidence or strong prove about Susanno weakness???
and btw Pain was lost against Naruto

 

[Preta]

Read about Susanno before posting this
Susanno is jutsu not Ninja,you comparing between them
It said about Pain to be Invincible because of his Rinnegan which provide him to use any jutsu from any type (Fire,Water...etc),Pain can coat any jutsu in addition his unique jutsu (Banshō Ten'in,Shinra Tensei.....etc) that's why he is Invincible.
we are talking about Susanno defense and attack which is absolute Invincible while Pain has weak spot like Shinra Tensei required 5 seconds to recharge which Pain rely on it as his defense
do you have an evidence or strong prove about Susanno weakness???
and btw Pain was lost against Naruto

I se, so the data book is wrong about ninja but not jutsu?? You only know the weakness of Tensei because Kishi showed us, if you only saw Tensei once like Susanno, you would say Pain could deflect all attacks and that is the exact problem with your line of thinking.

Basically what you're saying is this: "Pain was not invincible even though the data book said so, but Susanno is invincible because the data book says so."....................seriously? That's some of the most backwards logic I've ever seen

And btw Pain vs naruto was exactly my point, why are you acting like you got me? The data book was being poetic about pain and calling him an unkillable god, yet now we see he is very clearly no god and does have a weakness...the same is obviously true for Susanno.

 

[zumorikato]

I se, so the data book is wrong about ninja but not jutsu?? You only know the weakness of Tensei because Kishi showed us, if you only saw Tensei once like Susanno, you would say Pain could deflect all attacks and that is the exact problem with your line of thinking.

Basically what you're saying is this: "Pain was not invincible even though the data book said so, but Susanno is invincible because the data book says so."....................seriously? That's some of the most backwards logic I've ever seen

And btw Pain vs naruto was exactly my point, why are you acting like you got me? The data book was being poetic about pain and calling him an unkillable god, yet now we see he is very clearly no god and does have a weakness...the same is obviously true for Susanno.

I would agree with petra.

Im a Itachi fan, and as you can see my avatar is a dead give away.
However Im still realistic in regards to when a jitsu is better than another.

As we have seen in the manga this far we can classify susanoo as an absolute defense. Please correct me if Im wrong.

In the beginning of Naruto we have encountered numerous others with absolute defenses, ect Gaara and Haku and if we take Azuma's teacher with his "bhuda technique" (lol I call it this for my own ignorance to check up in the manga as what its called.)

All of those techniques are classify as high end techniques where the user have never been defeated/even got harmed in some cases, and even so we all now what happened to Haku aswell as with Gaara and those jitsus that was once feared as impenetrable and unavoidable and unstoppable ect always seem to have some weakness towards them. What then makes Susanoo any different? I would say the only logical reason is that we have not seen anybody fight a real fight or long enough against Susanoo to determine what his weakness might be.
Sasuke was almost all out of chakra when facing Susanoo. Even though he used kirin unknowingly against Susanoo, and even though kirin is described as a S class unavoidable blah blah blah jitsu, this doesnt make it the end all and be all of all jitsus.
It only proves that Susanoo is able to sustain damage from that type of jitsu.

Lets speculate then if Susanoo is a "god" and unstoppable what would you think would happen if lets say the third hokage or 4th summoned the Death "god" on Itachi, do you think that Susanoo would be able to "protect" Itachi from that? No, I dont think so, as the death god was able to seal the Kyuubi within Naruto, and the Kyuubi is said to have nearly an infinite amount of chakra.

Thus I came to the conclusion that Susanoo is a very strong jitsu, but like all the jitsu's in the Narutovers, there is a weakness and the only question is who would find out what is Susanoo if he is still able to be used as Itachi was the only know user that was capable of summoning it and its unknown whether Sasuke have obtained it, as it would be mere speculation and assumptions to suggest that he have that potential.

Another thing. If Susanoo was able to seal Oro, we all saw that Itachi needed to lure Oro out in order to seal him. If that is not the case, and Susanoo could have just sealed Oro straight away why didnt Itachi use it first on Sasuke? Why then would you think that Susanoo can seal the Kyuubi if its not released in its full form and still sealed up within Naruto, needless to say that might not even have the potential in sealing a thing with semi infinite chakra?

I would prefer that we rather speculate and give theories on what happend/happens in the manga than on some databook that is written on a certain time to spice things up for the readers only for that given moment.

 

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I would agree with petra.

Im a Itachi fan, and as you can see my avatar is a dead give away.
However Im still realistic in regards to when a jitsu is better than another.

As we have seen in the manga this far we can classify susanoo as an absolute defense. Please correct me if Im wrong.

In the beginning of Naruto we have encountered numerous others with absolute defenses, ect Gaara and Haku and if we take Azuma's teacher with his "bhuda technique" (lol I call it this for my own ignorance to check up in the manga as what its called.)

All of those techniques are classify as high end techniques where the user have never been defeated/even got harmed in some cases, and even so we all now what happened to Haku aswell as with Gaara and those jitsus that was once feared as impenetrable and unavoidable and unstoppable ect always seem to have some weakness towards them. What then makes Susanoo any different? I would say the only logical reason is that we have not seen anybody fight a real fight or long enough against Susanoo to determine what his weakness might be.
Sasuke was almost all out of chakra when facing Susanoo. Even though he used kirin unknowingly against Susanoo, and even though kirin is described as a S class unavoidable blah blah blah jitsu, this doesnt make it the end all and be all of all jitsus.
It only proves that Susanoo is able to sustain damage from that type of jitsu.

Lets speculate then if Susanoo is a "god" and unstoppable what would you think would happen if lets say the third hokage or 4th summoned the Death "god" on Itachi, do you think that Susanoo would be able to "protect" Itachi from that? No, I dont think so, as the death god was able to seal the Kyuubi within Naruto, and the Kyuubi is said to have nearly an infinite amount of chakra.

Thus I came to the conclusion that Susanoo is a very strong jitsu, but like all the jitsu's in the Narutovers, there is a weakness and the only question is who would find out what is Susanoo if he is still able to be used as Itachi was the only know user that was capable of summoning it and its unknown whether Sasuke have obtained it, as it would be mere speculation and assumptions to suggest that he have that potential.

Another thing. If Susanoo was able to seal Oro, we all saw that Itachi needed to lure Oro out in order to seal him. If that is not the case, and Susanoo could have just sealed Oro straight away why didnt Itachi use it first on Sasuke? Why then would you think that Susanoo can seal the Kyuubi if its not released in its full form and still sealed up within Naruto, needless to say that might not even have the potential in sealing a thing with semi infinite chakra?

I would prefer that we rather speculate and give theories on what happend/happens in the manga than on some databook that is written on a certain time to spice things up for the readers only for that given moment.

Yeah, right. Im with you.

 

[zumorikato]

Yeah, right. Im with you.

thanx bro

 

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It's explained By Madara

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Susanoo was used after the meeting of Naruto which means he didn't transfer it to Naruto
it's said by Madara that Itachi has transferred his Mangekyo Sharingan jutsus to Saskue which there is possibility Saskue has Susanoo



WTF!!!
The 8-tailed beast was fucked up by Amaterasu and Amaterasu is Eyesight speed which is unavoidable jutsu

thanx bro

ya, one thing: as far as i remember the buddha technique was only presented in anime, so it doesnt count

Btw, i think Kamui is a perfect counter to Susanoo... it will just suck it to another dimension. I guess dimension-suckage is stronger in terms of power than some spiritual beeing

 

[zumorikato]

ya, one thing: as far as i remember the buddha technique was only presented in anime, so it doesnt count

Btw, i think Kamui is a perfect counter to Susanoo... it will just suck it to another dimension. I guess dimension-suckage is stronger in terms of power than some spiritual beeing

lol So the power of "sucking" is better than someform of spiritual being? LOLOL

Nice one. I have to agree, there lots of different ways we just need to way them up, like you say, instead of attacking it in order to destroy it, rather negate it to another plain and let it rot there! ; )

I just added that as an extra example, but yes, you are right and should not be used, but it still doesnt make my statement any less creditable. ; )

(Side note : Sucking is better! lol)

 

[Nameer]

I se, so the data book is wrong about ninja but not jutsu?? You only know the weakness of Tensei because Kishi showed us, if you only saw Tensei once like Susanno, you would say Pain could deflect all attacks and that is the exact problem with your line of thinking.

Basically what you're saying is this: "Pain was not invincible even though the data book said so, but Susanno is invincible because the data book says so."....................seriously? That's some of the most backwards logic I've ever seen

And btw Pain vs naruto was exactly my point, why are you acting like you got me? The data book was being poetic about pain and calling him an unkillable god, yet now we see he is very clearly no god and does have a weakness...the same is obviously true for Susanno.

such a pain!!!Just Read my Comment carefully
I have explained why Pain is invincible,the meaning about invincible is different from Susanno
and Yes,Shinra Tensei has weak spot while Susanno don't (that's what is confirmed until now)
and please change the view toward me I'm not fighting you I'm discussing with you

 

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I forgot to answer your post nameer. 8th tail wasnt fucked by amaterase, he lost a tentacle to transform and used that chance to escape from raikages supervision.

 

[roflcopter]

lol So the power of "sucking" is better than someform of spiritual being? LOLOL

Nice one. I have to agree, there lots of different ways we just need to way them up, like you say, instead of attacking it in order to destroy it, rather negate it to another plain and let it rot there! ; )

I just added that as an extra example, but yes, you are right and should not be used, but it still doesnt make my statement any less creditable. ; )

(Side note : Sucking is better! lol)

ya, its sucking not "suckage" couldnt find the correct noun o lol happens to me.

Ya why everyone is trying to find a way to kill susanoo.. there are things such as seals in Naruto universe. thanks to those seals it is possible to get rid of annoying over-powered things such as: Bijuu, orochimaru, susanoo

 

[Preta]

such a pain!!!Just Read my Comment carefully
I have explained why Pain is invincible,the meaning about invincible is different from Susanno
and Yes,Shinra Tensei has weak spot while Susanno don't (that's what is confirmed until now)
and please change the view toward me I'm not fighting you I'm discussing with you

You have decided for yourself that the meaning is different? That's not logical, that's convenient. They were both in the same book, it's not hard to surmise that it is the same meaning...

Shinra Tensei had a weakness, but we did not find out about it right away, it seemed unstoppable on the first use. Susanno has a weakness and just like all other jutsu's introduced in this manga, we didn't get to see that weakness on its first use, however rest assured that the weakness is there and it is the reason Itachi didn't(couldn't) just kill all his enemies...

My view towards you is nothing but love. =)

 

[zumorikato]

ya, its sucking not "suckage" couldnt find the correct noun o lol happens to me.

Ya why everyone is trying to find a way to kill susanoo.. there are things such as seals in Naruto universe. thanks to those seals it is possible to get rid of annoying over-powered things such as: Bijuu, orochimaru, susanoo

LOLOLOL

O no, Oro overpowered!!! Imagen hes like Micheal Jackson, arrr, rather not, He is Michael Jackson!!! He plays with little children!!!!

I say you should create a slogan or qoute or something in regards to the power of suck!! ; ) If you cant beat it, suck it. Or something like that!!! ; )

You have decided for yourself that the meaning is different? That's not logical, that's convenient. They were both in the same book, it's not hard to surmise that it is the same meaning...

Shinra Tensei had a weakness, but we did not find out about it right away, it seemed unstoppable on the first use. Susanno has a weakness and just like all other jutsu's introduced in this manga, we didn't get to see that weakness on its first use, however rest assured that the weakness is there and it is the reason Itachi didn't(couldn't) just kill all his enemies...

My view towards you is nothing but love. =)

Again I think that Petra is right, you cant quote and use one book as a reference and then in another place of the book where there is a contradiction or another interpretation for the same thing turn a blinds eye?

Even so like I stated above, I think its best if we dont use fanfic/databooks/wiki's in order to generate theories/predictions and then proclaim it as the truth.

Please people make love not war!! ; )

 

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LOLOLOL

O no, Oro overpowered!!! Imagen hes like Micheal Jackson, arrr, rather not, He is Michael Jackson!!! He plays with little children!!!!

I say you should create a slogan or qoute or something in regards to the power of suck!! ; ) If you cant beat it, suck it. Or something like that!!! ; )




; )

RROFL , tru

Oh yeah now we know he used a Michael Jackson as a prototype for Orochimaru remember the girls body he has shown in a fight vs Sarutobi? That face was a copy of Michael!

But but but... if he is jackson... what did he do to Sasuke? Wasnt jackson like.. um well.. you know... doing sum unpleasent things to children?

 

[zumorikato]

RROFL , tru

Oh yeah now we know he used a Michael Jackson as a prototype for Orochimaru remember the girls body he has shown in a fight vs Sarutobi? That face was a copy of Michael!

But but but... if he is jackson... what did he do to Sasuke? Wasnt jackson like.. um well.. you know... doing sum unpleasent things to children?

Havent you wondered why sasuke is acting a little bit strange lately? I would have acted like that too if Oro, you know, "experimented" on me!!!!

Bad rolfcopter, for putting those ideas into other peoples heads!!!! lolololol

 

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Havent you wondered why sasuke is acting a little bit strange lately? I would have acted like that too if Oro, you know, "experimented" on me!!!!

Bad rolfcopter, for putting those ideas into other peoples heads!!!! lolololol

lol, it was you who implemented those ideas !!!!!! ! I just.. followed you

Um eeeeeeehhh.. Sasuke was trying to defeat orochimaru but couldnt so he used sucking ?? o lol wtf im talking about anyway he sucked oro into his dimension
!! with hsi sharingan
Not with what you thought he did!
lol


And and i think it's good u arent sasuke Im not Sasuke too tho!

 

[zumorikato]

Re: !

lol, it was you who implemented those ideas !!!!!! ! I just.. followed you

Me, never!! ; ) Bad rolfcopter for following my ideas!

Um eeeeeeehhh.. Sasuke was trying to defeat orochimaru but couldnt so he used sucking ?? o lol wtf im talking about anyway he sucked oro into his dimension
!! with hsi sharingan
Not with what you thought he did!
lol

Why not, I see that they are mis using the power of "Suck". I didnt know Sasuke could "suck" with his eyes. Damn, he must be good, maybe that is why Oro chose him instead of Kimimaru? Even though, Kimimaru, was how should I put it bone hard, nobody can compete against what Sasuke can do!!!!!

(Thinks back to all those times Oro raved about Sasuke, now it all makes sense to me!!!!)

And and i think it's good u arent sasuke Im not Sasuke too tho!

That is a good answer and I will let it be at that! ; )

 

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Re: !

Why not, I see that they are mis using the power of "Suck". I didnt know Sasuke could "suck" with his eyes. Damn, he must be good, maybe that is why Oro chose him instead of Kimimaru? Even though, Kimimaru, was how should I put it bone hard, nobody can compete against what Sasuke can do!!!!!





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Holy!! Cr*P! You ARE perverted
But Yeah i think Sasuke used distance-sucking, like "In-out-no-jutsu" lo.