(AkatsukiChurch) Kakuzu Vs. Itachi Uchiha

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Kakuzu Vs. Itachi Uchiha

This is not a bashing thread nor a troll thread. Both of them are in my top 10 fave characters. I'm doing this to brighten Kakuzu's image and I even once saw someone say Konan > Kakuzu which is ridiculous.

Don't post if you are going to say 'U Mad?' or 'Amaterasu to da face lol'.

+ rep to anyone who gives valid points.



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How Kakuzu counters Fire Jutsu: I think it's more than plausible to say that Kakuzu can tank Itachi's fire Jutsu with Doton Domu since he was able to tank a paper bomb.

Kakuzu tanking a paper bomb.
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It's also plausible that Kakuzu can counter with his own Fire Jutsu and Kakuzu may be even better at Katon than Itachi considering the scale of Kakuzu's Katon.

Kakuzu's scale
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Even if it isn't stronger than Itachi's Katon, Kakuzu's Fire + Wind combo will win against Itachi's Katon.



How Kakuzu counters Water Jutsu: It's obvious that Itachi isn't very good at Water techs and even if he uses it against Kakuzu, Kakuzu can either tank it or counter it with one of his Elemental Jutsu.


How Kakuzu counters Genjutsu(Tsukuyomi): Each Kakuzu's heart have their own Chakra Network. Even if Kakuzu dies or gets caught in a Genjutsu, the masks will still be in reality battling.

Kakuzu's masks moving even after Kakuzu himself died.
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So if Itachi catches Kakuzu in a Genjutsu the masks will attack him head on with their Elemental Jutsu. However, the masks themselves cannot be caught in a Genjutsu since they lack consciousness or a brain. Itachi would probably have to focus while making a Genjutsu, meaning that he could be open to the Elemental Jutsu of the masks.

2nd Possible Counter: Since each of Kakuzu's hearts have their own Chakra Network, the masks could disrupt Kakuzu's chakra flow and bring him out of a Genjutsu.

Kakashi saying that Kakuzu is tapping into the Chakra tubes of the stolen hearts, meaning that the hearts do in fact have Chakra Networks.
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How Kakuzu counters Amaterasu: Considering that Kakuzu's body is full of his black threads, if Amaterasu lands on him, Kakuzu could rip open that part of his skin and move the Amaterasu to the threads. After that he can cut off the threads that were being burned by Amaterasu.

If his hearts get hit by Amaterasu: Considering that the body of his mask beasts are made of only his threads and a heart, Kakuzu could either cut off the threads that are being burnt by Amaterasu or retrive his heart before Amaterasu burns throught the threads and reaches it.


How Kakuzu counters Susano'o and Yata Mirror/Totsuka Blade: Totsuka Blade needs to pierce the target to seal it and with his Doton Domu, Kakuzu's skin wouldn't be pierced.

Susano'o's weakness is that it can't protect the user from beneath (Except for Madara's), meaning that Kakuzu could restrict/attack Itachi from underground with either his threads (to pierce Itachi's skin) or Doton Domu hardened fists. One more thing, since Kakuzu's mask are made of threads there's a possibility that they can use this tactic as well.

Also, Kakuzu's masks can shot powerful elemental attacks at the terrain's ground either to break it and make Itachi's balance with Susano'o a little unstable or to electrocute the ground (Raiton Mask).

There's even a possibility of Kakuzu being able to break Susano'o's ribcage with several punch of his Doton Domu or Elemental Jutsu. Yata Mirror may be able to deflect those attacks, but it can't deflect all the angles at the same time.

Yasaka Magatama can either be tanked or deflected with an elemental Jutsu


How Kakuzu counters Itachi's Taijutsu: Itachi may be a little better at Taijutsu, but with his threads and Doton Domu hardened fists, Kakuzu could overcome him in a Taijutsu fight.


Itachi's lack of stamina: Itachi can't keep his Susano'o up for long and that benefits Kakuzu. He could try and exhaust Itachi to the point where he could die.


Izanami and Izanagi: Izanami won't work on Kakuzu since he doesn't want to be someone else and if Itachi uses Izanagi that won't benifit him much since he would be losing an eye. Meaning no more Susano'o and Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi (depending on which eye he uses).


Intelligence: It's clear that Itachi is probably smarter than Kakuzu, however Kakuzu has 100 years of experience and a lot of tactics.




Ok that's it. Thoughts? Please tell me if I missed something.
 

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Itachi Tsukyumi then Totsuka blitz GG
 
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Itachi wins because of Susanoo, Kakuzo's attack isnt powerful enought to break it. But between me and you, hes in the top 4 of the akatsuki, top 3 if obito isnt included
 

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I posted this in the wrong section... crap. My bad.
 

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Itachi wins because of Susanoo, Kakuzo's attack isnt powerful enought to break it. But between me and you, hes in the top 4 of the akatsuki, top 3 if obito isnt included

Did you read 'How Kakuzu counters Susano'o'?
 

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Man Kakuzu is strong we know that but Itachi>>>>>>>>Kakuzu.

I don't think that it's Itachi>>>>>>>>>>>Kakuzu. Maybe Itachi>Kakuzu, but I still think that Kakuzu has a chance.
 

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Well written thread! I still sadly think that Itachi would be the end victor due to HAX techniques like susanoo and the sword but it would be a good fight. I'm not entirely sure if iron armour could hold back the sword.

Kakazu is cooler though.
 
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Kakuzu cannot tank Totsuka Blade. That Blade has ethereal priorities. It doesn't matter how hard you are.
 

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Itachi is superior in this battle even though Kakuzu is powerful.
 

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You made some good points here, I agree that Itachi's regular elemental ninjutsu are no match for Kakuzu, but I don't think Kakuzu could dispel Genjutsu easily enough without Itachi taking advantage of the interval. Amaterasu aimed for the masks can barely be removed, since the masks contain the hearts.

You also say that his Iron Skin can tank Totsuka, I would disagree with that, we don't really know how powerful the blade is, but it seems to have sort of a liquid form that can seal anything, it is an ethereal weapon after all.

In taijutsu, Itachi doesn't stand a chance against Kakuzu, his iron skin is impenetrable that way, and he can't touch Kakuzu.

People should also keep in mind that MS techs are not spammable, Amaterasu has to be used more than once, which would mean extreme fatigue for Itachi. Tsukuyomi, however, is probably the biggest problem for Kakuzu, since it's his mind that is affected, replacing his own heart with a new one doesn't fix that.

I can't say either one wins, Kakuzu's destructive power would probably wipe the map along with Itachi, unless he acts quick enough, that is very much like Itachi to do that.
 

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Sasori vs Itachi is a better fight with higher chances for Itachi to lose.
 

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Well written thread! I still sadly think that Itachi would be the end victor due to HAX techniques like izanami and susanoo but it would be a good fight.

Ok, it's alright. I just want to bring up that Kakuzu is on his level, but he isn't necessary stronger than Itachi. Thanks by the way!
Kakuzu cannot tank Totsuka Blade. That Blade has ethereal priorities. It doesn't matter how hard you are.
Kakuzu said that physical attacks don't work on him.
 

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Itachi mate.

Kakuzu is one of the low level people. Konan, Kisame, Itachi, Obito, Nagato all have higher powerscale techniques.
 

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You made some good points here, I agree that Itachi's regular elemental ninjutsu are no match for Kakuzu, but I don't think Kakuzu could dispel Genjutsu easily enough without Itachi taking advantage of the interval. Amaterasu aimed for the masks can barely be removed, since the masks contain the hearts.

You also say that his Iron Skin can tank Totsuka, I would disagree with that, we don't really know how powerful the blade is, but it seems to have sort of a liquid form that can seal anything, it is an ethereal weapon after all.

In taijutsu, Itachi doesn't stand a chance against Kakuzu, his iron skin is impenetrable that way, and he can't touch Kakuzu.

People should also keep in mind that MS techs are not spammable, Amaterasu has to be used more than once, which would mean extreme fatigue for Itachi. Tsukuyomi, however, is probably the biggest problem for Kakuzu, since it's his mind that is affected, replacing his own heart with a new one doesn't fix that.

I can't say either one wins, Kakuzu's destructive power would probably wipe the map along with Itachi, unless he acts quick enough, that is very much like Itachi to do that.

Heh, good points. I just wanted to point out that Kakuzu isn't so far beneath Itachi as some people believe him to and that he has a chance to win.
 
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