COME ON IN im fine

[DeDoll]

I've pointed out the fact that they(itachi , Shisui) were standing around talking while at the river, but
we never saw this Danzo eye stealing incident so Shisui could've have landed a blow back on him.(a critical one)
and Danzo with his illegal drugs and medicines and power-ups could've been hiding his pain around the others like itachi and the elders afterwards. since we didn't see the incident we don't know exactly how it happened. Also the reason Danzo didn't show up to the river is maybe he didn't know where shisui fled to, or didn't want to challenge Shisui and Itachi at the same time, or too much noise and commotion would wake the uchiha clan up which is where shisui likely was when Danzo attacked him. So Danzo could've let him go because he was already using KA when Danzo stopped him and took the eye(thinking he was using the other eye) so he knew it wouldn't work for at least a decade. Did you forget Shisui is known for his body flicker??? that technique powered by Sharingan & at night time is really enhanced. Also if he kept up with shisui then a loud commotion would eventually ensue and the uchiha would wake up and civil war will start and that is something the elders were trying to avoid.


im not saying that he used it after it was plucked out, im saying its a possibility that he could program it the same way itachi did, to react to itachi's sharingan so in or out of the socket, the eye would still react if programmed.
also danzo had shisui's dna in arm and shoulder and right side of body while eye was covered, and still used KA..
Itachi can also use genjutsu on you while only pointing a finger. So with that being said about Danzo and Itachi, Shisui who was itachi's idol and the reason itachi unlocked MS(most likely) and Shisui's dna on Danzo's right side could indicate that Shisui could prob use genjutsu with his limbs as well....and while being able to do that and program his own eye, he could prob use KA on itachi while holding the eye in his hand and pointing it at him or even while covering the eye up, and using the power from it on his target...Shisui's blood was all over his hand with the eye ; Itachi transferred his jutsu into Sasuke's eye while touching his forhead and his own blood dripping into Sasuke's eye which activated amateratsu to react to Tobi's sharingan which is a jutsu sasuke has never used before being programed to use yet he still performed it.
itachi's reasoning: you saw how hard it was for him to kill his parents and you seen how long it took for him to finally do something to try and stop the plot which was previously just talking. after the last time he met shisui, is the first time he actually started to take action. reasoning is knowing the possible outcome and the reason behind it being know matter good or bad, but understanding what must be done and the reason for it... itachi knew , but hadn't done.. so shisui tried on his own.. Itachi knew what needed to be done(possibly) but didn't know when or how..
so he might not have done it if it wasn't for shisui's last moments however he might have still met up with tobi and murdered them in their sleep...It was extremely hard for itachi and he cried intensely as he murdered his parents... he might not have brought himself to do previously while knowing what must be done...,but shisui ordering him to with KA could have forced him to take action and protect the village instead of just thinking about it..
here we see itachi admit his faults from back then...he could've found another way to stop the plot...he thinks..

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Why this make 0 sence ? Just pathetic.
You made theory that Shisui is more powerfull than elder ? And WTF is more posilbe that danzo let him go or he escape somehow ?

Coz as we know. Danzo was able to take one of his eyes. And after that he just standing healthy as always.

And i am saying danzo woudnt go alone for mission like this.

 

[foxyladyland]

Why this make 0 sence ?

it was for the other guys response

 

[DeDoll]

You know, for your small useless Theory (Coz Itachi always was Village defender). You made 3-7 others theorys so its possible like 1%.

 

[foxyladyland]

You know, for your small useless Theory (Coz Itachi always was Village defender). You made 3-7 others theorys so its possible like 1%.

you know you went off topic most of the time including now
but I did a great job and you fail to see it thanks :bye: stop trolling & spamming

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

quit saying I flip your words, you know I don't do that.
I hope you're not hinting that the bold part is something I said cuz its not.
and shisui wasn't on the verge of death; he just had his eye taken out....
now maybe he was poisoned or took a critical hit, but he appeared okay enough to do all he did after his eye was stolen..

okay, you're right about hashi's cells, but that story goes back to uchiha and senju dna combining..
and naruto has always shown great healing since he started doing missions with team7.
its either because of his uzumaki blood or 9tails chakra , or both. kushina also stayed strong after kurama was extracted from her.

you've seen the 9tails chakra replenish so many shinobi during this war and giving them chakra and stamina.

the uchiha eye is like anything that is strained too much and gives in to the strain and has to lower itself and power down.
that's what KA does to the eye.. it causes it to revert back to 3 tomoe after KA is used..and cannot be used for ten years.

when it reverts back, its because it loses life force...get it? now here is where it gets not so tricky .
naruto in his KM mode is rich with life force...

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lmao yeah you do flip them hehe i wasn't talking about sasuke but you wanna mentions sasuke......okay first and foremost i take everything tobi has said with a grain of salt...he curbs the truth(everything tobi said to the kages to sasuke and naruto is somewhat manufactured ...not really lying but not really telling the full truth)the perfect example for this particular thread is this...

tobi tells sasuke that the village became suspicious of the uchiha after the ninetails fox attacked the village even though it was only a natural disaster.....we all know this is not true but he doesn't lie about suspicion on the uchiha that is very true since they are the only ones that can control the fox trough sharingan ....but that was done on purpose. tobi attacked the village using the fox so that the village can suspect the uchiha so that the coup de tat would occur and then get rid of all uchiha for the moon of eye plan....(also for dazou to do his lil experiment)

so the whole story of the senju and uchiha is quite real but with a twisted truth and no you don't need senju DNA is has been proven that HASHI DNA is what made the zetsu not senju dna hashi dna was used in oro experiments on danzou and he uses hashi dna to make his moves stronger edo-tensei (more restraint) and its also hashi dna that basically made the gedo mazou. the uchiha filled with hate and senju filled with love is all lies....hashi pops was just as ruthless as any wacked out uchiha...that's just how it was in that era.

also shisui was on the verge of death danzou was hunting him down ...shisui tried to stop the coup de tat and danzou was not gonna let that happen ...his death was inevitable. which is why he gave the eye to itachi so that he can use it... but how can he use it? if it already had been used on itachi at that point in time(so he would have to wait 10 years to even use it) so like i said shisui did not use KA

naruto never had access to Jubbi mode until he got to that turtle island you telling me in one month he can advance the eye by 2 years???that is highly questionable and that is me giving it plausibility ...but here's why it's not even plausible naruto did not know how to manipulate chakra till the recent chapters he gives his own personal chakra to all the alliance to
1)replenish their chakra and
2)to have an army of nine tails cloak shinobi, to make them stronger
remember this is after the crow pops out of naruto not before

what does naruto healing have to do with the crow inside him .... absolutely nada all I'm saying is that he is an uzumaki that has high chakra reserves and life force which means living longer not giving life to others and when he is in Jubbi mode hashi cells react to his own chakra (yamato is made from hashi cells and so is zetsu which is why we see a huge reaction with them) i don't know about eye jutsus that don't even belong to his clan being activated quicker...do not confuse izanagi with KA danzou needed hashi cells to control that many sharingan and to be able to do izanagi

and what does 3 tomoe have to do with anything??? when we saw the crow come out of naruto it was in MS state and it turns back into 3 tomoe because it has no chackra does sasuke eye revert to 3 tomoe after he uses amaterasu or does itachi automatically reverts to 3 tomoe after using his famous genjetsu?(these are ms techs) just because a MS tech was used it doesn't revert back automatically the user reverts it because of the strain on the user the crow obviously has miniscule chakra so it reverted automatically but not indefinitely because the crow can't switch back to normal eyes it's not a uchiha ala kakashi

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itachi even says it ....he gave it to me to hide it's existence and to use it to protect the village....you gotta understand that the whole situation is plot no jutsu and loopholes....he gave it to naruto knowing he was gonna fight sasuke but also knowing that sasuke would have taken his eye so that when sasuke uses an MS tech the crow would come out and put sasuke in a gengetsu for him to protect konoha... obviously the plan did not work because itachi fought naruto again before fighting sasuke... that and it's the sole reason how itachi was able to escape from edo tensei control from kabuto. so yeah thats plot right there. can't do much about that can ya?

 

[DeDoll]

And you know that Danzo was Ambu leader ?

Shisui wasnt using KA when danzo took his eye. He was just planing to use it on Uchiha leaders.
Danzo took his power that he coudnt use it on leaf. This how it was said by Shisui.

Tell me is your theory is more likely true or mine ? Or mby better ask people what they think ?

 

[DeDoll]

you know you went off topic most of the time including now
but I did a great job and you fail to see it thanks :bye: stop trolling & spamming

LoL you know i am right you. You did good job, no. I am deny your theory. You call it trolling or spamming. What nub you are, cant accept true.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

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Sosuke Aizen: in the end Shisui has nothing on me his yes are nothing but a cheap parlor trick they fail in comparison to my power

danzo was a fool and he died a fool.

You have all already been caught in my trap Kyoka Suigetsu lets show them what for

 

[Hori]

you know you went off topic most of the time including now
but I did a great job and you fail to see it thanks :bye: stop trolling & spamming

wow my foxy is very agressive on that guy today.... lol

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[foxyladyland]

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lmao yeah you do flip them hehe i wasn't talking about sasuke but you wanna mentions sasuke......okay first and foremost i take everything tobi has said with a grain of salt...he curbs the truth(everything tobi said to the kages to sasuke and naruto is somewhat manufactured ...not really lying but not really telling the full truth)the perfect example for this particular thread is this...

tobi tells sasuke that the village became suspicious of the uchiha after the ninetails fox attacked the village even though it was only a natural disaster.....we all know this is not true but he doesn't lie about suspicion on the uchiha that is very true since they are the only ones that can control the fox trough sharingan ....but that was done on purpose. tobi attacked the village using the fox so that the village can suspect the uchiha so that the coup de tat would occur and then get rid of all uchiha for the moon of eye plan....(also for dazou to do his lil experiment)

so the whole story of the senju and uchiha is quite real but with a twisted truth and no you don't need senju DNA is has been proven that HASHI DNA is what made the zetsu not senju dna hashi dna was used in oro experiments on danzou and he uses hashi dna to make his moves stronger edo-tensei (more restraint) and its also hashi dna that basically made the gedo mazou. the uchiha filled with hate and senju filled with love is all lies....hashi pops was just as ruthless as any wacked out uchiha...that's just how it was in that era.

also shisui was on the verge of death danzou was hunting him down ...shisui tried to stop the coup de tat and danzou was not gonna let that happen ...his death was inevitable. which is why he gave the eye to itachi so that he can use it... but how can he use it? if it already had been used on itachi at that point in time(so he would have to wait 10 years to even use it) so like i said shisui did not use KA

naruto never had access to Jubbi mode until he got to that turtle island you telling me in one month he can advance the eye by 2 years???that is highly questionable and that is me giving it plausibility ...but here's why it's not even plausible naruto did not know how to manipulate chakra till the recent chapters he gives his own personal chakra to all the alliance to
1)replenish their chakra and
2)to have an army of nine tails cloak shinobi, to make them stronger
remember this is after the crow pops out of naruto not before

what does naruto healing have to do with the crow inside him .... absolutely nada all I'm saying is that he is an uzumaki that has high chakra reserves and life force which means living longer not giving life to others and when he is in Jubbi mode hashi cells react to his own chakra (yamato is made from hashi cells and so is zetsu which is why we see a huge reaction with them) i don't know about eye jutsus that don't even belong to his clan being activated quicker...do not confuse izanagi with KA danzou needed hashi cells to control that many sharingan and to be able to do izanagi

and what does 3 tomoe have to do with anything??? when we saw the crow come out of naruto it was in MS state and it turns back into 3 tomoe because it has no chackra does sasuke eye revert to 3 tomoe after he uses amaterasu or does itachi automatically reverts to 3 tomoe after using his famous genjetsu?(these are ms techs) just because a MS tech was used it doesn't revert back automatically the user reverts it because of the strain on the user the crow obviously has miniscule chakra so it reverted automatically but not indefinitely because the crow can't switch back to normal eyes it's not a uchiha ala kakashi

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itachi even says it ....he gave it to me to hide it's existence and to use it to protect the village....you gotta understand that the whole situation is plot no jutsu and loopholes....he gave it to naruto knowing he was gonna fight sasuke but also knowing that sasuke would have taken his eye so that when sasuke uses an MS tech the crow would come out and put sasuke in a gengetsu for him to protect konoha... obviously the plan did not work because itachi fought naruto again before fighting sasuke... that and it's the sole reason how itachi was able to escape from edo tensei control from kabuto. so yeah thats plot right there. can't do much about that can ya?

the chakra naruto gave out was kurama's chakra made into naruto's to use on his own..
because naruto doesn't know he can or how he did something doesn't mean he cant do it accidentally.
its kurama's chakra inside naruto as naruto doesn't narutally have this much chakra without kurama.
as far as shortening a jutsu's reactivation time , danzo was able to reactivate shisui's eye after using it at the summit and then against sasuke later in there fight. the 9tails chakra and the 9tails is chakra in itself which is closer to unlimited than hashi's dna which needed to be made over and over with the mazou, howver the 9tails chakra will rebuild over and over on its own. look at the chakra of the 9tails being distributed by naruto made into his own use

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it possesses those kinds of abilities, and in the other pic yamato admitted it was affecting his mokuton.
don't forget naruto had the eye in him before sasuke even fought deidara if im not mistaken.
as far as far as talking about sasuke (what are you referring to?)
the massacre I've known this already and everything else as well

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as well as Tobi's speeches.

And you know that Danzo was Ambu leader ?

Shisui wasnt using KA when danzo took his eye. He was just planing to use it on Uchiha leaders.
Danzo took his power that he coudnt use it on leaf. This how it was said by Shisui.

Tell me is your theory is more likely true or mine ? Or mby better ask people what they think ?

I keep telling you danzo was not the Anbu leader.. He led ROOT..which is not ANBU..they both wear masks.
you're not really debating with me, you're just asking off topic questions

 

[Vexion]

Sasuke for the win