Onoki, Muu, Gaara, 4th Kazekag, 4th Raikage and Tsunade vs Hashirama

Kages vs Hashirama

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Yes, at the same it was shit as ****...Oonoki would turn it to dust.

Tell me of another jutsu, being or structure that can tank 10 kyuubi bijuudamas and 10 perfect susanoo slashes.
 

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It's not about size. It resisted 10 Susanoobijuudamarasenshurikensomething, which are way above anything Muu and Onoki can conjure.

10? more like 3-4 lol. That jutsu is being hyped to much. And yet it didn't live upto it's hype. Gaara restricts its movement with his sand. Oonoki splashes a few dust release that thing is gone. Oonoki jumps on Raikage back, Makes him lighter. Raikage pummels Hashirama.
 

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10? more like 3-4 lol. That jutsu is being hyped to much. And yet it didn't live upto it's hype. Gaara restricts its movement with his sand. Oonoki splashes a few dust release that thing is gone. Oonoki jumps on Raikage back, Makes him lighter. Raikage pummels Hashirama.

Gaara is about 10.000 times smaller than Shinsuusenju and he isn't restricting it.

Even 4 Bijuudamas with 4 Perfect Susanoo slashes is a ton in comparison to dust release.
 

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thats the starting distance between them is barely even 150m,yet it took a while to reach the kyubi. It didnt cross 20 mountains at all.

i clearly said that shinsuusenjus attack which is its thousands of punches cant be avoided due to the explosion which takes up 20 mountains and due to the sheer quantity of the attack.

its not like this is debatable anyway. none of hashiramas opponents in this match are even implied in the manga to be even close to his tier.
 

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10? more like 3-4 lol. That jutsu is being hyped to much. And yet it didn't live upto it's hype. Gaara restricts its movement with his sand. Oonoki splashes a few dust release that thing is gone. Oonoki jumps on Raikage back, Makes him lighter. Raikage pummels Hashirama.

no i have confirmed that you cannot count.

1 bijudama is a mountain buster. there are 11 of them in the panel. 1 PS slash takes out a mountain range. there are 11 of them. 11 bijudamas with one being mountain level already combined with 11 blades of PS with only one of them being able to cut down mountain ranges.

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Gaara is about 10.000 times smaller than Shinsuusenju and he isn't restricting it.

Even 4 Bijuudamas with 4 Perfect Susanoo slashes is a ton in comparison to dust release.

It's not about size. It resisted 10 Susanoobijuudamarasenshurikensomething, which are way above anything Muu and Onoki can conjure.

you dont ge it,it dosent matter how powerful a defence is,itls made up of molecules,jinton,attacks those molecules ignoring the outher part,shuusinsenju has a very durable outer part,but jinton attacks the molecules that it is compsoed of,making the armour defence useless,which is why a single jinton would turn that thing to dust.

Gaara can make the ground turn to quicksand,in turn trapping it,it's immense weight will be it's own downfall. A jinton honestly would destroy that thing,it cant exist without it's molecules.

i clearly said that shinsuusenjus attack which is its thousands of punches cant be avoided due to the explosion which takes up 20 mountains and due to the sheer quantity of the attack.

its not like this is debatable anyway. none of hashiramas opponents in this match are even implied in the manga to be even close to his tier.

defending against the attack is impossible,flying away from the thing before it reaches you however,is very possible and since 5 of these guys can fly and carry the last one,they can simply fly away, shuusinsenju would actually have to reach them to attack,it's range dosent matter if the kages are on the air. It dosent matter about tier here,one jinton would atomize that thing,and we have 2 users that can destroy islands.

It's not like hashirama is even startng in sm anyway
 

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no i have confirmed that you cannot count.

1 bijudama is a mountain buster. there are 11 of them in the panel. 1 PS slash takes out a mountain range. there are 11 of them. 11 bijudamas with one being mountain level already combined with 11 blades of PS with only one of them being able to cut down mountain ranges.

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Well to throw that many bijuudama so quick. They must of been small. What about the one Kurama made againt the 5 other tails? or the one he made against Naruto?
 

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you dont ge it,it dosent matter how powerful a defence is,itls made up of molecules,jinton,attacks those molecules ignoring the outher part,shuusinsenju has a very durable outer part,but jinton attacks the molecules that it is compsoed of,making the armour defence useless,which is why a single jinton would turn that thing to dust.

Gaara can make the ground turn to quicksand,in turn trapping it,it's immense weight will be it's own downfall. A jinton honestly would destroy that thing,it cant exist without it's molecules.



defending against the attack is impossible,flying away from the thing before it reaches you however,is very possible and since 5 of these guys can fly and carry the last one,they can simply fly away, shuusinsenju would actually have to reach them to attack,it's range dosent matter if the kages are on the air. It dosent matter about tier here,one jinton would atomize that thing,and we have 2 users that can destroy islands.

It's not like hashirama is even startng in sm anyway

shinsuusenju is 5 times bigger than a mountain in height and the arms stretch thousands of feet. you need a strong defense. any attempts to avoiding it is futile. you will need to straight up overpower it.

its not like mu and onoki have the speed feats to avoid it like you're claiming anyway.

Well to throw that many bijuudama so quick. They must of been small. What about the one Kurama made againt the 5 other tails? or the one he made against Naruto?

the bijudama were bigger than the mokujin.
 
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you dont ge it,it dosent matter how powerful a defence is,itls made up of molecules,jinton,attacks those molecules ignoring the outher part,shuusinsenju has a very durable outer part,but jinton attacks the molecules that it is compsoed of,making the armour defence useless,which is why a single jinton would turn that thing to dust.

Don't apply logic to Naruto. Jinton would destroy everything including Perfect Susanoo and the Kyuubi if that was true.
 

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shinsuusenju is 5 times bigger than a mountain in height and the arms stretch thousands of feet. you need a strong defense. any attempts to avoiding it is futile. you will need to straight up overpower it.

its not like mu and onoki have the speed feats to avoid it like you're claiming anyway.

It really dosent matter how high it is,muu while invisible,can simply fly around it,hashi wont know cuz he cant tell,onoki can simply fly the other direction that the thing is coming,dont talk abt speed with this thing,2's as slow as you can get,onoki and muu fly,last time i checked when you fly,you move fast,definately faster than walking. Gaara flies even faster than onoki,as he said. Kazekage flies too,any of them can carry tsunade. Muu evading thatthing is easy,since he cant be seen or sensed by hashi,one jinton,and hashi is toast. Also,hashi dosent start with sage mode,he has to remain still to do that,and even if he makes it,muu would already be in the air abd invicible.


the bijudama were bigger than the mokujin.
those bijuudama were nowhere the size of a mountain,and were rather small,especially since kurama didnt charge any of them

Don't apply logic to Naruto. Jinton would destroy everything including Perfect Susanoo and the Kyuubi if that was true.

actually,what i am saying is how jinton works,it attacks at a molecular level,hence turning it's target to dust,which is why it has been seen making susanoo it's b*tch. Am not using any other logic.

If a jinton covered madara's ps and kyubi,they would turn to dust,thats how i works. It would attack them from their molecules,what use is ps without it's makeup molecules?,nothing,you cant tank a jinton,it is just like gentle fist,except in ninjutsu world,no matter how strong your outer part is,it dosent matter,you cant train your molecules to be mountain buster durable. That is how powerful jinton is,you cant tank it at all. Why do you think madara used preta to stop it?.
 

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those bijuudama were nowhere the size of a mountain,and were rather small,especially since kurama didnt charge any of them



actually,what i am saying is how jinton works,it attacks at a molecular level,hence turning it's target to dust,which is why it has been seen making susanoo it's b*tch. Am not using any other logic.

If a jinton covered madara's ps and kyubi,they would turn to dust,thats how i works. It would attack them from their molecules,what use is ps without it's makeup molecules?,nothing,you cant tank a jinton,it is just like gentle fist,except in ninjutsu world,no matter how strong your outer part is,it dosent matter,you cant train your molecules to be mountain buster durable. That is how powerful jinton is,you cant tank it at all. Why do you think madara used preta to stop it?.

i never said that those bijudama were mountain sized.
 

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only reasons madara was on their level was because of rinnegan and ps without it even hed lose.... same goes for hashirama
 

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onoki and mu jinton hashirama before he can do anything. theres a clear interval for hashi SM and buddha.
 
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