About Tobirama killing Izuna

[Amaterasuice]

Izuna had ms at this time. Overuse of Ms causes loss of sight. Madara by this time had very little light in his eyes (which Is why Izuna gave him his eyes).
So Izuna couldn't have been at full power, as he has at least lost some of his eyesight.

Also, Izuna vs Tobirama wasn't a one on one fight. It was a war between senju and Uchiha. Izuna and Tobirama weren't just fighting each other.

I'm not saying Izuna is stronger, I'm just saying Izuna is probably on par with Tobirama, or at least a little weaker. Not as much as all these Tobirama fanboys are saying "Tobirama>>>>Izuna." Pftt.

So in my opinion, Tobirama>=Izuna

Just to clarify, I like the Uchiha and Senju the same. And I like Tobirama more than izuna. No fanboyism here.

 

[Omnipotent]

Only Madara was stated to have been losing his "light" due to overuse.
Saying the same for Izuna would be nothing more than speculation.

And comparing that Tobirama to Tobirama when he was the Nidaime Hokage is... :|

 

[foxyladyland]

I think madara took izuna's eyes back at the house after tobirama used FTG jutsu

I think the FTG hurt him fatally so he went home with madara

then because izuna was in critical pain, madara killed him and took his eyes

to put him out of his misery.

 

[Cobra the Sage]

lol tobirama>>izuna wit east ftg slash

 

[Itachi The Solo King]

I agree with you

 

[RaitonOniKairRasengan]

Only Madara was stated to have been losing his "light" due to overuse.
Saying the same for Izuna would be nothing more than speculation.

And comparing that Tobirama to Tobirama when he was the Nidaime Hokage is... :|

Actually no everyone who uses MS loses their light.

However we have seen much more of tobirama therefore its easier to say that hes > izuna.

 

[Cobra the Sage]

I think madara took izuna's eyes back at the house after tobirama used FTG jutsu

I think the FTG hurt him fatally so he went home with madara

then because izuna was in critical pain, madara killed him and took his eyes

to put him out of his misery.

lol make since to me

 

[Allseeingeye]

So in my opinion, Tobirama>=Izuna

agree with this cuz izuna's strength was compare with madara at the time. also we never seen izuna fight but im guessing it has to be familiar with madaras techniques with means he can be >,=, or < than Tobirama

 

[Amaterasuice]

Only Madara was stated to have been losing his "light" due to overuse.
Saying the same for Izuna would be nothing more than speculation.

And comparing that Tobirama to Tobirama when he was the Nidaime Hokage is... :|

No, everyone who uses ms loses a bit of their sight everytime they use it. And it's what? Tobirama was like in his late 20s or early thirties by then. That's where most people, even in Naruto, are at their prime. I'm not saying he didn't improve at all, it's just that he wouldn't have gotten THAT much stronger after that.

I think madara took izuna's eyes back at the house after tobirama used FTG jutsu

I think the FTG hurt him fatally so he went home with madara

then because izuna was in critical pain, madara killed him and took his eyes

to put him out of his misery.

That could work, but Obito's flashback showed Izuna alive with blood coming out of his eyes. Also, Madara said "he offered his eyes as a present to protect the uchiha clan." So it actually doesn't work like that.

lol tobirama>>izuna wit east ftg slash

That sig of yours describes you perfectly. Drunk.

I agree with you

Thanks

Actually no everyone who uses MS loses their light.

However we have seen much more of tobirama therefore its easier to say that hes > izuna.

True, that's why I said Izuna=<Tobirama. I'm leaning towards Tobirama by about 63% though.

agree with this cuz izuna's strength was compare with madara at the time. also we never seen izuna fight but im guessing it has to be familiar with madaras techniques with means he can be >,=, or < than Tobirama

no, Izuna is definately not stronger than Tobirama. But at least on par with him, or on the same level.

 

[S A G E]

Kishimoto pretty much showed how senjus are superior to Uchihas
Both senju brothers won against their Rival Uchiha brothers

 

[Amaterasuice]

Kishimoto pretty much showed how senjus are superior to Uchihas

I didn't say Izuna was stronger. Lol

 

[S A G E]

I didn't say Izuna was stronger. Lol

It's not your post that led me to the conclusion.
Read my edited post just now.

 

[Untung]

Why still debating izuna?? He is dead.......and will be no edo izuna for this time...

 

[Amaterasuice]

Why still debating izuna?? He is dead.......and will be no edo izuna for this time...

Tobirama has edo tensei. For all we know, edo Izuna may come to fight madara. Oh, and because anyone who is able to even have a chance at winning against a senju brother is worth talking about.

It's not your post that led me to the conclusion.
Read my edited post just now.

Read the op. Of course Senju>Uchiha. But I'm saying it wasn't a straight up fight. Partially blind+multiple people=war, not one on one.

 

[Vexion]

Tobirama for the win

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

izuna was likely fighting other senjus and hashirama at the time, was slowly going blind, and caught off guard.

cuz izuna's strength was compare with madara at the time

by someone who knows nothing about madara or that time period

tobirama>>izuna wit east ftg slash

which was clearly the final move of a long long fight. and it was one slash. a good medic and itd be nothin

Only Madara was stated to have been losing his "light" due to overuse.

all MS users lose their light except the ones with senju chakra. its inevitable. sasuke lost it after a few months