4th Kazekage vs Sasuke

[genii96]

Actually,kimimaro had a speed of 4.5,which was the speed sasuke reached by the itachi arc,by the begginning of part 2,he hadnt reached that yet. Even if sasuke can see the attack,can he see behind him?,above?,below?,all at the same time?. Lee's part 1 unweighted speed isnt as fast as current gaara's sand,nor even close.

If he can manipulate millions of gold dust particles perfectly,i dont see why shurikens and a sword would be any trouble at all.

When sasuke faced oro,he got caught by oro's snakes and went cs2 in order to escape,and no way are thet faster than his gold.

Unless sasuke's fireballs are at least 600-800 degrees,they arent stopping any magnetic field, a magnetic field made from his chakra would be only stopped if he himself is heated up since he is the magnet, he kinda lives in a freaking desert which is the hottest anddriest place you can go to,so heat isnt a problem.

The gold clones are not meant to full sasuke,they are there to fight alongside the kazekage. Imagine 3 gold dust waves at once.








Yea,chunin sasuke doged his sand,his sand then caught kimi in the SRA,whose speed far outweighed sasuke's,by part 2,his sand was reacting to explosions the instant they explode,and that was at the beggining of part 2,not even current gaara.

Even if he can see the attacks,ge can see in 1 direction,kazekage will attack from all directions

manda going beneath to dodge a gold wave wont help sasuke,since sasuke cant travel underneath like manda,nor would it help mands,seeing as the gold would have filled the top surface,and manda cant come above since he cant budge through the gold to get above,so a gold tsunami kinda pins bot of them. Also he can just,you know fly to avoid manda,have a few clones trap manda while he handles sasuke.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

You can't use Databook scores to accurately judge someone's speed (or anything that can be enhanced through Jutsu or Bijus)

Databook scores only account for unenhanced base speed. Proof of this is Sasuke's fight with Deidara, they both had a 4.5 but Sasuke was putting him on the run due to his far superior Shunshin.

Another example is Sai, he was given a 3 (or a 3.5?) and he absolutely blitzed the shit out of Deidara and Sasori before they could even recognize he moved.

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Use manga feats people, tread lightly on Databooks. The scores don't take into account for a lot of things, and just remember that scores are always unenhanced and base stats.

 

[genii96]

You can't use Databook scores to accurately judge someone's speed (or anything that can be enhanced through Jutsu or Bijus)

Databook scores only account for unenhanced base speed. Proof of this is Sasuke's fight with Deidara, they both had a 4.5 but Sasuke was putting him on the run due to his far superior Shunshin.

Another example is Sai, he was given a 3 (or a 3.5?) and he absolutely blitzed the shit out of Deidara and Sasori before they could even recognize he moved.

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Use manga feats people, tread lightly on Databooks. The scores don't take into account for a lot of things, and just remember that scores are always unenhanced and base stats.

i know they are unenhanced stats,i was pointing out that kimi had a higher base speed than beggining of shippuden sasuke,and also had cs as well just like sasuke,and that if the kazekage could keep up with current gaara's gourd sand,then it is definately above that sasuke.

Deidara reacted to both his shushins,dodged the first one,threw a bomb in his face the second time.

Sai did that in the war arc,databook stops at itachi arc.

 

[nakumaru]

i know they are unenhanced stats,i was pointing out that kimi had a higher base speed than beggining of shippuden sasuke,and also had cs as well just like sasuke,and that if the kazekage could keep up with current gaara's gourd sand,then it is definately above that sasuke.

Deidara reacted to both his shushins,dodged the first one,threw a bomb in his face the second time.

Sai did that in the war arc,databook stops at itachi arc.

"Put on the run" just implies that Sasuke was faster.

Sai wouldn't have improved that much during he war arc. His stat should still hold.

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I pretty much agree with what DA said.

 

[Anupachianimausaji]

I'm surprised that a lot of people call 4th Kazekage the weakest kage. I believe the reason is people believing Sunagakure as the weakest village. But the strongest in the weakest village can be quite strong. I can't believe none of you have mentioned the 2nd Raikage as the weakest. I don't know what the dude could do except running helter skelter from kingin attack

 

[genii96]

"Put on the run" just implies that Sasuke was faster.

Sai wouldn't have improved that much during he war arc. His stat should still hold.

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I pretty much agree with what DA said.

yea,but they were still on the same speed level,which is what the databook suggests,he didnt really have him on the run with speed,deidara is a long range person,so staying at a distance is a basic tactic,sasuke attacked hm with a shushin of abt 50m,he dodged it,he attacked sasuke who countered,some bombs fell near tobi,who told him not to detonate them,he got distracted,and sasuke attacked from behind,he still reacted in time to mould a c1 bomb and throw it at his face. So they were at the same level,even if sasuke is a bit faster.

Many others also get powerups from that time as well.
What is choji's stat in ninjutsu?,what do you think it will be after he mastered the butterfly bomb,which boosts his power by 100x?

What is ino's stat in ninjutsu?,she controlled juubi,and also controlled 2 zeetsus at the same time

what of kakash's chakra level at that time?,do i need to comment?.

What of A handling 5 complete susanoos with 1 arm,when he had a little trouble with 1 ribcage with 2 arms?,and only getting caught bcos he was worried abt tsunade.

Sai was on his bird as well,so it wasnt even foot speed,he blitzed them oln his ink bird,or was he on the ground?

 

[AGoodBoy]

I'm surprised that a lot of people call 4th Kazekage the weakest kage. I believe the reason is people believing Sunagakure as the weakest village. But the strongest in the weakest village can be quite strong. I can't believe none of you have mentioned the 2nd Raikage as the weakest. I don't know what the dude could do except running helter skelter from kingin attack

lmao true, but we've never seen him done anything. Could be that he just got sealed away because he didn't know of the weapons' abilities.

 

[shelke]

@Nakumaru Nagashi spreads in all directions and regardless of his contact with gold, it would paralyze him as an electrical field is created around the conductor, it isn't isolated to it. It's basic physics.

What do you mean? It would weigh down the gold, as it's an excellent conductor of heat as well. Another common physics pointer.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

@Nakumaru Nagashi spreads in all directions and regardless of his contact with gold, it would paralyze him as an electrical field is created around the conductor, it isn't isolated to it. It's basic physics.

What do you mean? It would weigh down the gold, as it's an excellent conductor of heat as well. Another common physics pointer.

Loooooooooooooool

That has nothing to do with physics. If anything that's in the chemistry section.

 

[genii96]

Loooooooooooooool

That has nothing to do with physics. If anything that's in the chemistry section.

dont blame him,he is 13xd

 

[AGoodBoy]

Loooooooooooooool

That has nothing to do with physics. If anything that's in the chemistry section.

Sorry ,I don't understand what you mean. Isn't conduction, and induced magnetism under physics for you? It was for me

 

[DoubleAgentItachi]

Sasuke. He always finds a way.

 

[shelke]

@DemonicAvenger I have studied conductivity and general electrical field factors in aero-engines in regards to optimum performance of engines etc, together with electrical setup of various devices that basically covers both areas. Forget this high-end education, I studied this in 5th grade. Are you even educated?

@Genji96 Dear Lord, the Irony, it burns like a bitch.

 

[Mr Awesome]

Sasuke wins !

 

[DemonicAvenger]

@DemonicAvenger I have studied conductivity and general electrical field factors in aero-engines in regards to optimum performance of engines etc, together with electrical setup of various devices that basically covers both areas. Forget this high-end education, I studied this in 5th grade. Are you even educated?

@Genji96 Dear Lord, the Irony, it burns like a bitch.

You sir, are full of shit. Physics/Chemistry arnt touched until at least late in middle school. I'm not surprised though, considering some of the other things you've claimed in these forums.

Sorry ,I don't understand what you mean. Isn't conduction, and induced magnetism under physics for you? It was for me

Naw, I was in AP physics and we only discussed in passing. We talked more about it in chemistry.

yea,but they were still on the same speed level,which is what the databook suggests,he didnt really have him on the run with speed,deidara is a long range person,so staying at a distance is a basic tactic,sasuke attacked hm with a shushin of abt 50m,he dodged it,he attacked sasuke who countered,some bombs fell near tobi,who told him not to detonate them,he got distracted,and sasuke attacked from behind,he still reacted in time to mould a c1 bomb and throw it at his face. So they were at the same level,even if sasuke is a bit faster.

Many others also get powerups from that time as well.
What is choji's stat in ninjutsu?,what do you think it will be after he mastered the butterfly bomb,which boosts his power by 100x?

What is ino's stat in ninjutsu?,she controlled juubi,and also controlled 2 zeetsus at the same time

what of kakash's chakra level at that time?,do i need to comment?.

What of A handling 5 complete susanoos with 1 arm,when he had a little trouble with 1 ribcage with 2 arms?,and only getting caught bcos he was worried abt tsunade.

Sai was on his bird as well,so it wasnt even foot speed,he blitzed them oln his ink bird,or was he on the ground?

Just being able to react doesn't put them on the same level. Sasuke was able to cover most of the distance with his Shunshin before Deidara noticed it and was just barely able to avoid it. What's the second time your talking about?

I'll try to reply to more of this later. I'm really busy but I didnt want to leave you out in the cold on a reply.

 

[genii96]

You sir, are full of shit. Physics/Chemistry arnt touched until at least late in middle school. I'm not surprised though, considering some of the other things you've claimed in these forums.




Naw, I was in AP physics and we only discussed in passing. We talked more about it in chemistry.




Just being able to react doesn't put them on the same level. Sasuke was able to cover most of the distance with his Shunshin before Deidara noticed it and was just barely able to avoid it. What's the second time your talking about?

I'll try to reply to more of this later. I'm really busy but I didnt want to leave you out in the cold on a reply.

thats what a shushin does:|,sasuke is a short-mid ranged fighter,so naturally he would have his speed towards attacking,deidara is a long ranged fighter and would naturally use his speed to evade close attacks,which he did twice. Also the distance wasnt even that great anyway. Deidara underestimated his speed at that time.

 

[Champ]

Sasuke kills him with his Arrows

 

[genii96]

Champ,this is beggining of part 2 sasuke. AND QUIT WITH THE ARROWS!!!!??

Btw,where ya beenxd

 

[genii96]

Champ,this is beggining of part 2 sasuke. AND QUIT WITH THE ARROWS!!!!??

Btw,where ya beenxd

 

[Curse Mark]

You sir, are full of shit. Physics/Chemistry arnt touched until at least late in middle school. I'm not surprised though, considering some of the other things you've claimed in these forums.




Naw, I was in AP physics and we only discussed in passing. We talked more about it in chemistry.




Just being able to react doesn't put them on the same level. Sasuke was able to cover most of the distance with his Shunshin before Deidara noticed it and was just barely able to avoid it. What's the second time your talking about?

I'll try to reply to more of this later. I'm really busy but I didnt want to leave you out in the cold on a reply.

For the record, not taking any sides, but I studied electric currents and things of that nature in fifth grade as well.