How do you feel about this?

[Organis Machinas]

ok im a lil late, but i just read this weeks manga and im somewhat impressed....yet im not. i figured this is what was going to happen, yet now i have come to a whole new set of issues that i would like to share.
so now we have the ASF, taka + oro, and we have the hokage quartet all looking to defeat madara. now as far as i know, there is only madara, obito( who could potentially turn) and the juubi. we all know kabuto is alive and well, trapped in izanami. the possibility of him breaking it are high, but how will he come out? and what of the juubi's role in all this? as Sir Derp obito has stated, it is quite possible for the juubi to have/ have had a conciseness. could that mean an enemy for everyone? both good and bad? and what of the kages? where the hell are they? are they alive or no?
i would now like to go over a couple of things here .

The Allied Shinobi Force

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The Allied Shinobi Force:

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this group consisted of all the current strongest shinobi through out the ninja world. they have the likes of the two strongest(naruto and bee), and only remaining jinnchuriki as of right now, a sharingan user(kakashi), several byakugan users(the hyuuga clan) and many many more shinobi from all different aspects of the ninja arts.

The Kage Five

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the kage five:

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gaara, tsunade, A, oonoki, and mei. tha five current kage of each respective village who, collectively were able to stop madara's meteor's and five perfect susano'o. they also were able to rally the entire shinobi world, as well as the bushido nation behind them to stop the ultimate threat. unfortunately they are out of commision due to madara's unparalleled abilities.

Taka

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Taka:

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once disbanded, the now reformed group consists of experiments of orochimaru's listed and juugo, suigetsu, and karin. lead by sasuke and oro, they intend to head to the battlefield to stop madara.

The Hokage Quartet

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the hokage quartet:

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the first four hokage. Shodai, Nidaime, Sandaime, and the Yondaime kages who created and protected the village each in their respective times. they have been revived by oro's edo tensei jutsu, and now plan to head to the battlefield to deal with madara.

Madara, Obito, and the Juubi

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madara, obito, and the juubi:

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madara has been able to destroy his edo contract and become semi immortal. he has a regenerative body, senju dna, rinnegan, ems, and unlimted chakra. obito, madara's subordinate( questionable) has the rinnegan, ms, and senju dna. the juubi is the manifestation of evil. it contains 7 of the tailed beasts and is capable of unleashing massive damage over a wide scale, as seen when he destroyed the ASF HQ which was a great distance from the battlefield. the juubi was revived by madara and obito to bring about the destruction of the shinobi world and to unleash mugen tsukiyomi. this will place the world under a eternal genjutsu which will be controlled by madara himself.

now what doesn't add up to me, aside from the juubi, is how slanted this fight will be. the greatest shinobi of all time against madara and obito? even with the juubi, i do not see how they would survive. madara has battled hashirama multiple times, and has never come out on top. it is only due to his planning and foresight per say, that he has ascended to the level he has now. but hashirama has each kage who has come after him, all powerful in their own respects, behind him in this fight. madara cannot withstand all of them at once even if he can do battle and be victorious against each of them one on one. now lets say kabuto returns. where exactly will he fit into this? he could come out of izanami a changed man, and aid in the destruction of madara, obito, and the juubi. but, all of his edo's have been sealed, and it is very skeptical to say that he still possesses DSM. so what could he possibly do? then again, he could come out it, and be completely mad. i could see this happening as well. he works his way out of izanami only to want revenge on sasuke and oro. he could potentially hate sasuke because oro, his mentor and master for ages, has continued his obsession with sasuke and not notice kabuto. he could also hate oro, because he has stripped him of his abilities.

and what of the five kages? will they be saved? i don't see them having this one last fight with madara and then being tossed to the side like trash. they may not equal up to the previous kages, which was stated multiple times by madara, but they still have a role to play. the hokage quartet will not remain revived forever, and i do not see naruto being hokage any time soon. i believe that some way, some how they will be revived.

karin is back with taka as we all know. could she possible have a larger role than she previously had? tobirama stated her uzumaki lineage

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i believe she will play a pivotal role. maybe she will heal the ASF? maybe she could be the jinnchuriki for the ten tails? she could potential receive a boosts from naruto's chakra care package lol
and what
and lastly, what are oro's true intentions? i have stated before that i felt oro wanted, and would orchestrate a plan to steal madara's body. but i think i might have debunked myself. why would he want a body that can be sealed? i mean, it is a very huge plus for him, but it is also a risk. then again, anything and everything in naruto can be turned into a risk. maybe he is still after sasuke's body. but where would that leave him? he would have to start from ems and obtain senju dna again (it's all over now smh) to get the rinnegan. but then his immortality goes out the window right?

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he seems pretty devious when he said he would go to the battlefield, which could elude to him being up to something.

so what are your thoughts?

 

[YowYan]

I'm certain Orochimaru will change the plot drastically...sneaky snake

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

IF THE JUUBI DO HAVE A mind, both madara and obito will be like nagato when he summoned the gedo mazo, nagato went all wooooahh! a similar cry that is connected to the juubi! so yeah i think the juubi DO have a mind, he just does not show it and will control both maddy and obito making them go all wooooah

 

[FaHaD 5212]

Interesting Theory

 

[Organis Machinas]

I'm certain Orochimaru will change the plot drastically...sneaky snake

yes he is. he belongs in slytherin lol

IF THE JUUBI DO HAVE A mind, both madara and obito will be like nagato when he summoned the gedo mazo, nagato went all wooooahh! a similar cry that is connected to the juubi! so yeah i think the juubi DO have a mind, he just does not show it and will control both maddy and obito making them go all wooooah

tis' a strong possibility

Interesting Theory

why thank you

 

[Bluntss]

Yerh Something has to happen. When the hokages join the fight, Madara and Obito will most likely be overwhelmed and defeated. Something will probably change the plot.

 

[Organis Machinas]

Yerh Something has to happen. When the hokages join the fight, Madara and Obito will most likely be overwhelmed and defeated. Something will probably change the plot.

i don't think they will bring an end to this war. it would be too easy. and then what? there won't be any enemy left. and i seriously doubt oro will bring them around to fight the ASF

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

You have alot of questions lol. And most of them are the same as what everyone else would want to find the answers. Good theoretical thinking and thanks for taking the time I guess.

 

[Organis Machinas]

You have alot of questions lol. And most of them are the same as what everyone else would want to find the answers. Good theoretical thinking and thanks for taking the time I guess.

thanx. i don't always make threads, and they usually get bypassed. just used a little advice from my friends. and yea, they are, but im not one for troll threads, more like discussion threads. no flaming or any of that bs. i have more on my mind, just too lazy to put it down lol

 

[L Lawliet]

I'm certain Orochimaru will change the plot drastically...sneaky snake

Good ol' Voldemort gave Oro nice lessons about being immortal and evil. Well, let's see if he actually stays evil!

Yerh Something has to happen. When the hokages join the fight, Madara and Obito will most likely be overwhelmed and defeated. Something will probably change the plot.

Ever heard of the word "chaos"? "Mayhem"? "Disaster"? Well, that's exactly what's gonna happen as soon as Hashirama gets his ass there. Motherf*ckin' Mountain Level Damage times infinite, bitch!!! Seriously, two perfect Jiinchuuriki, the origin of all Bijuu, Hashirama, Madara and Sasuke? Forget Transformers. Michael Bay is gonna love this so much!

 

[Organis Machinas]

Good ol' Voldemort gave Oro nice lessons about being immortal and evil. Well, let's see if he actually stays evil!



Ever heard of the word "chaos"? "Mayhem"? "Disaster"? Well, that's exactly what's gonna happen as soon as Hashirama gets his ass there. Motherf*ckin' Mountain Level Damage times infinite, bitch!!! Seriously, two perfect Jiinchuuriki, the origin of all Bijuu, Hashirama, Madara and Sasuke? Forget Transformers. Michael Bay is gonna love this so much!

lmao hashi with kyuubi chakra would be epic to say the least!

 

[marksonm]

A snake is always a snake and I think Orochimaru is still after Sasuke, and I think he will get it considering that Sasuke has become good, he will let his guard down abit on Orochimaru, bcos he is thinking Orochimaru is now on his side... Hence, we will see Naruto Vs. Sasuke part 2, where Naruto beats the sh** outta OroSasuke and brings Sasuke back.
As for Karin, since she is an Uzumaki, and I think she might be key in either helping to encase the Juubi (I don't think so though, I think Naruto will be the Next Sage)... it might be that since she has the bloodline line of the other brother, Btw Sasuke has drank her blood once, she will be the next target for orochimaru Sasuke to have a rennigan.
However I strongly believe in my hypothesis of Orochimaru still being after Sasuke, Note that he now has Zetsu's body which is Hashirama's DNA, and I consider it step 1, which brings him closer to acquiring Sasuke's body and have a Rennigan as well

 

[Organis Machinas]

A snake is always a snake and I think Orochimaru is still after Sasuke, and I think he will get it considering that Sasuke has become good, he will let his guard down abit on Orochimaru, bcos he is thinking Orochimaru is now on his side... Hence, we will see Naruto Vs. Sasuke part 2, where Naruto beats the sh** outta OroSasuke and brings Sasuke back.
As for Karin, since she is an Uzumaki, and I think she might be key in either helping to encase the Juubi (I don't think so though, I think Naruto will be the Next Sage)... it might be that since she has the bloodline line of the other brother, Btw Sasuke has drank her blood once, she will be the next target for orochimaru Sasuke to have a rennigan.
However I strongly believe in my hypothesis of Orochimaru still being after Sasuke, Note that he now has Zetsu's body which is Hashirama's DNA, and I consider it step 1, which brings him closer to acquiring Sasuke's body and have a Rennigan as well

i agree with you on karin. as far as oro wanting sasuke's body, i still believe he could go after him. i also believe, he could go after madara. maybe just before he is sealed? after all it is only his soul being sealed, which causes his edo body to disintegrate. maybe oro knows a way to preserve edo bodies?

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

thanx. i don't always make threads, and they usually get bypassed. just used a little advice from my friends. and yea, they are, but im not one for troll threads, more like discussion threads. no flaming or any of that bs. i have more on my mind, just too lazy to put it down lol

You're not the only one lol, I also feel the same. At times, I can also get lazy to make a decent thread. I also forgot to mention. Back then Oro said something interesting. When Suigetsu asked him "are you sulking" He said "since we are infront of the third" referring to Hiruzen. What I'm trying to say is that maybe all of this 'good guy act' is because his teacher is there.

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Another thing, Sasuke is not the kind of person to leave his darkside just like that. He wasn't at the surface level of this Hatred anyway like Itachi, Shisui and Kagami but in fact he was almost at Madara's stage at the bottom of this hatred. Even Karin previously noted his chakra was really cold while Naruto's was the opposite and really warm. I'm thinking he will backstab Oro and the Hokages when he reaches the Battlefield. Just a little prediction.

 

[Organis Machinas]

You're not the only one lol, I also feel the same. At times, I can also get lazy to make a decent thread. I also forgot to mention. Back then Oro said something interesting. When Suigetsu asked him "are you sulking" He said "since we are infront of the third" referring to Hiruzen. What I'm trying to say is that maybe all of this 'good guy act' is because his teacher is there.

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Another thing, Sasuke is not the kind of person to leave his darkside just like that. He wasn't at the surface level of this Hatred anyway like Itachi, Shisui and Kagami but in fact he was almost at Madara's stage at the bottom of this hatred. Even Karin previously noted his chakra was really cold while Naruto's was the opposite and really warm. I'm thinking he will backstab Oro and the Hokages when he reaches the Battlefield. Just a little prediction.

yea. oro could possibly be playing off the fact that sarutobi sensei there. doubt that would work around naruto and his evil sense though.
i don't think sasuke will turn on oro though. i do feel that his hatred is still there. but maybe not, maybe he will achieve some other form through his love for the village and his clan, which replaced his hatred? going out on a limb here, but maybe he won't get the rinne, it is over used anyway. but maybe he achieves something else through love?

 

[foxyladyland]

I agree with all of that I made a prediction that this would happen and orochimaru will indeed go after sasuke's body once again.
Kabuto will indeed get out of izanami and betray orochimaru also because he sees a connection between himself and sasuke.
That was hinted at in their panel time together throughout the manga.
and since Orochimaru can control at least Minato and Sarutobi a little easier than Tobirama, (Hashirama already broke free)
I think he will probably use them to his advantage and help in taking Sasuke's body perhaps
very nice analysis.

 

[Husky]

Yeah, I came to the party late as well, and just read this week's release, and damn, was it something. I think most expected the former Hokages to join in on the action (especially Minato, as a means of closure with Naruto - cue in drama), but the way by which they did it? Magic. Avengers assemble is all, really I can say. In any case..

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OT: It's interesting to see Sasuke's mental metamorphosis in the series; from a guy blinded by anger, and revenge, to a guy now seemingly in control of his emotions (perhaps him and Itachi are more alike then they first appeared, as both were able to shed away the exceptions associated with the Uchia name). I bring this up, mostly because I question if Oro' really has acquired the same change, as Sasuke. Did he really experience a moment of enlightenment inside Kabuto, or is he just trying to pull a fast one? For me, the biggest wild-card's that will determine the whole outcome of the fight will be, Oro's future actions, and Obito's "loyalty" to Madara (rather if he will hold strong to Madara's belief's) as well.

 

[Organis Machinas]

Yeah, I came to the party late as well, and just read this week's release, and damn, was it something. I think most expected the former Hokages to join in on the action (especially Minato, as a means of closure with Naruto - cue in drama), but the way by which they did it? Magic. Avengers assemble is all, really I can say. In any case..

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OT: It's interesting to see Sasuke's mental metamorphosis in the series; from a guy blinded by anger, and revenge, to a guy now seemingly in control of his emotions (perhaps him and Itachi are more alike then they first appeared, as both were able to shed away the exceptions associated with the Uchia name). I bring this up, mostly because I question if Oro' really has acquired the same change, as Sasuke. Did he really experience a moment of enlightenment inside Kabuto, or is he just trying to pull a fast one? For me, the biggest wild-card's that will determine the whole outcome of the fight will be, Oro's future actions, and Obito's "loyalty" to Madara (rather if he will hold strong to Madara's belief's) as well.

after reading the manga again, im starting to doubt the sinister look he had. thats just the way oro is....creepy lol. i would like to believe he keeps is evil intentions at bay, at least until the war is long over with. and as for obito, there is no one alive that can convince me that he will stay with madara. once he finds out about rin...but who would tell it? who would possible know what went down? oro? hiruzen? maybe madara will speak up? idk

I agree with all of that I made a prediction that this would happen and orochimaru will indeed go after sasuke's body once again.
Kabuto will indeed get out of izanami and betray orochimaru also because he sees a connection between himself and sasuke.
That was hinted at in their panel time together throughout the manga.
and since Orochimaru can control at least Minato and Sarutobi a little easier than Tobirama, (Hashirama already broke free)
I think he will probably use them to his advantage and help in taking Sasuke's body perhaps
very nice analysis.

if so, i don't think it would be that easy of a fight. juugo is aligned to sasuke and sasuke alone. and karin's love for sasuke can never again be questioned. plus the fact that sasuke is going to aid in defeating madara, i doubt the ASF will allow oro to do that....but then again, he is a snake for a reason lol

 

[foxyladyland]

if so, i don't think it would be that easy of a fight. juugo is aligned to sasuke and sasuke alone. and karin's love for sasuke can never again be questioned. plus the fact that sasuke is going to aid in defeating madara, i doubt the ASF will allow oro to do that....but then again, he is a snake for a reason lol

well they're gonna have their hands full in the war , plus oro could make edo minato/hiruzen follow his own orders
whenever he wants maybe, and naruto could give minato 9tails chakra and that will make him even more difficult to stop.

 

[Organis Machinas]

well they're gonna have their hands full in the war , plus oro could make edo minato/hiruzen follow his own orders
whenever he wants maybe, and naruto could give minato 9tails chakra and that will make him even more difficult to stop.

i get the feeling that oro might feel as if the kages are too much to handle or have run wild. maybe on his journey to konoha, or even within kabuto, he altered his edo jutsu allowing him to seal his edo's with a hand seal or something? just shootin at clouds. i think if he got rid of them, he'd have a better chance at sasuke.