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[foxyladyland]

I understand where you're coming from, but it's not totally outside the realm of possibility. Hashirama/Senju Dna was coveted a lot for its life force/energy boost. In essence, this is what Kurama consist of.

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This is pure life force, even mokuton reacted to it. If KA was able to be used again because of senju's life force and or energy boost traits, then Kurama may have the same effect.





Well it just seems off. Itachi 'got lucky' by placing the KA inside Naruto. It seems like Shisui would have told him of the time. Plus Itachi seems like a more careful guy.

yeah its lucky, I pointed that out...

and life force is exactly the thing I was speaking of, senju dna existence to enhance is life force...
replenishing something is used with life force, and that KA drains the Sharingan
down to a lower tomoe level, draining the lifeforce from it..

uzumaki's are known for their life force and longevity,
kurama enhances that in naruto as has been shown throughout the manga thanks

 

[DeDoll]

Danzo took his eye that he coudnt use KA agains Leaf. One eye he left for him why ? mby uncharge eye or something but with this eye he didt make huge threat.

 

[foxyladyland]

BTW. How old shisui was ? 20 ? Coz i think even less, And how some1 could know that he had suck power ? Only use it before.
if he is 20 or less and use one time before it. He coudnt have KA that moment. And he was just preparing for it. Thats why Danzo took his eye coz he dont know where he gona use it.

So my point is that he dont have KA when he die.

Possible.

Shisui did have KA in his eyes when he died.. he used it years ago and AO commented on it at the summit

read that panel posted again, he said himself he was gonna use it to stop the rebellion.

Danzo took his eye that he coudnt use KA agains Leaf. One eye he left for him why ? mby uncharge eye or something but with this eye he didt make huge threat.

both eyes have KA in them

 

[Disquiet]

I could be wrong on this, but I thought it was only because naruto was in that tailed beast state where he could sense out "evil" and the have the "life force boost" if you will. Otherwise the jinchuriki of the nine tails only had the power to sense out evil. What this person is saying however is that inside naruto somehow the crow rejuvenated using his and kurama's chakra when in reality if this was the case wouldn't Kushina and Minato who were also sealed into naruto be gaining their chakra back. I personally think that the crow was in another part of naruto's subconscious "cages" if you will where the crow was "stored". It's just speculation and can't be proven but who knows. I also agree that it may be possible for Kurama to be able to do that it's just the other things I have doubts on.

Yeah Naruto can only do that in that state. But he's drawing it from Kurama. Remember, it's the power of the nine-tails. Yeah but Minato and Kushina was only chakra and not actual living organisms. True, it could have been somewhere in his subconscious. But the manga only showed it coming out his body. So we can at least conclude it was somewhere inside him.




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[Hori]

Shisui did have KA in his eyes when he died.. he used it years ago and AO commented on it at the summit

read that panel posted again, he said himself he was gonna use it to stop the rebellion.

great answer Foxy but we not know that whoich eye he used.. and at some point shisui's mangyekho awakened when Danzo was about to die

 

[DeDoll]

Shisui did have KA in his eyes when he died.. he used it years ago and AO commented on it at the summit

read that panel posted again, he said himself he was gonna use it to stop the rebellion.



both eyes have KA in them

Yea ofc he had use it before that my post.
Both eyes Have KA right.
One which was rdy to use Danzo took it. That he coudnt use it agains leaf ... I said it before.
And other was uncharge, This eye he use before.
If he was 20 or something he get MS something about 16-18
And at last he dont have a chance to use KA on Itachi

 

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

they aren't frozen in time... they move around and talk ... those panels are like still frame or snap shots
of a conversation... the eye could have easily went back to 3 tomoe, we just weren't shown it...
shisui covered it up in his hand....so we didn't get to see it after he took it out of his eye socket

Exactly, thank you. First off I question your sense of reality... it's just a manga as in fake, not real. Secondly here you are once again basing a theory on another theory. Quit doing it. It's getting old and is in no way helping your side of the debate. Thirdly, thank you for proving my point, right after the technique took place, Shisui's eye in the manga and anime immediately returned back to a 3 tomae. So what your whole theory is about is if Shisui placed him under a genjutsu in which in order for it to work A. he'd have to be looking at his eye. B. The eye would've already returned to a 3 tomoe sharingan if he had used the technique on Itachi. C. Considering the fact that Shisui's eye was already out before he said "protect Konoha" he was not under a Genjutsu.

Please do not be trolling and saying that shisui could've transferred his genjutsu to Itachi (which is kinda what you said in earlier posts) because Itachi was the only one who was capable of doing it. I could say its because Itachi and Sasuke were brothers and since their dna was so close he was simply able to implant his technique into his brother's sharingan.

 

[DeDoll]

Coz other point its stupid for danzo not to take Charged eye and took uncharget and let Shisui be with MOST powerfull Jutsu ever.

And danzo its not stupid

Otherway, Shisui just could acomplish his plan with one eye. But he coudnt that why he ask help from itachi, and gave him MS

 

[foxyladyland]

Yeah Naruto can only do that in that state. But he's drawing it from Kurama. Remember, it's the power of the nine-tails. Yeah but Minato and Kushina was only chakra and not actual living organisms. True, it could have been somewhere in his subconscious. But the manga only showed it coming out his body. So we can at least conclude it was somewhere inside him.

then this also points in the direction of the 9tails fox chakra and jinchuriki

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Kushina doesnt have the whiskers....Naruto does....Kinkaku & Ginkaku does....WHY?
I think its because Ginkaku & Kinkaku were actually inside KURAMA...
Naruto was inside Kurama's Jinchuriki while She was Pregnant...
kushina was NEVER INSIDE the 9tails or the 9tails Jinchuriki...
Ginkaku & Kinkaku & naruto ate Kurama's chakra...
We Know it says Kinkaku & Ginkaku were inside Kurama and ate his chakra to get out...
But maybe Naruto did while he was in Kushina, as a baby eats their mother's nutrients inside.

great answer Foxy but we not know that whoich eye he used.. and at some point shisui's mangyekho awakened when Danzo was about to die

danzo stole the right eye, itachi was left with the left eye
and the left eye is the only one affiliated with itachi from shisui's KA

 

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

then this also points in the direction of the 9tails fox chakra and jinchuriki

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Kushina doesnt have the whiskers....Naruto does....Kinkaku & Ginkaku does....WHY?
I think its because Ginkaku & Kinkaku were actually inside KURAMA...
Naruto was inside Kurama's Jinchuriki while She was Pregnant...
kushina was NEVER INSIDE the 9tails or the 9tails Jinchuriki...
Ginkaku & Kinkaku & naruto ate Kurama's chakra...
We Know it says Kinkaku & Ginkaku were inside Kurama and ate his chakra to get out...
But maybe Naruto did while he was in Kushina, as a baby eats their mother's nutrients inside.


danzo stole the right eye, itachi was left with the left eye
and the left eye is the only one affiliated with itachi from shisui's KA

I'll admit that that theory about naruto and the brothers is plausible.

 

[foxyladyland]

The eye would've already returned to a 3 tomoe sharingan if he had used the technique on Itachi. C. Considering the fact that Shisui's eye was already out before he said "protect Konoha" he was not under a Genjutsu.

Please do not be trolling and saying that shisui could've transferred his genjutsu to Itachi (which is kinda what you said in earlier posts) because Itachi was the only one who was capable of doing it. I could say its because Itachi and Sasuke were brothers and since their dna was so close he was simply able to implant his technique into his brother's sharingan.

now it probably takes seconds for it to turn back into three tomoe from MS after KA.
also in their world they move around in what is refered to as real time if not inside tsukuyomi.
Shisui doesn't have to say out loud the command as Danzo didn't either when trying to use it on Mifune.
further more , Danzo's KA was covered up in bandages while he was using it on mifune..
we never saw KA's MS revert back to 3 tomoes in Shisui's presence , only itachi's.
also Shisui could have pointed the eye at itachi as it was in his hand when he was giving it to itachi as he said Protect Konoha(and that is extremely plausible as well)

Coz other point its stupid for danzo not to take Charged eye and took uncharget and let Shisui be with MOST powerfull Jutsu ever.

And danzo its not stupid

look the ending to your argument is that Danzo stole one of shisui's eyes so shisui ran away.
probably using body flicker to where itachi met up with him at.

 

[DeDoll]

Or mby you wanna say that Shisui was 30 years old and both eyes was rdy to use ? Coz that would be just silly.

He cant acomplish his plan why ?
No KA. End of theory

 

[DeDoll]

Tell me why he should change his plan if he had everything ? He need preapration ? No he just need look at ppl or as you say touch.
He choose destroy this way coz he dont saw any other way.

 

[foxyladyland]

The eye would've already returned to a 3 tomoe sharingan if he had used the technique on Itachi. C. Considering the fact that Shisui's eye was already out before he said "protect Konoha" he was not under a Genjutsu.

Please do not be trolling and saying that shisui could've transferred his genjutsu to Itachi (which is kinda what you said in earlier posts) because Itachi was the only one who was capable of doing it. I could say its because Itachi and Sasuke were brothers and since their dna was so close he was simply able to implant his technique into his brother's sharingan.

now it probably takes seconds for it to turn back into three tomoe from MS after KA.
also in their world they move around in what is refered to as real time if not inside tsukuyomi.
Shisui doesn't have to say out loud the command as Danzo didn't either when trying to use it on Mifune.
further more , Danzo's KA was covered up in bandages while he was using it on mifune..
we never saw KA's MS revert back to 3 tomoes in Shisui's presence , only itachi's.
also Shisui could have pointed the eye at itachi as it was in his hand when he was giving it to itachi as he said Protect Konoha(and that is extremely plausible as well)

Coz other point its stupid for danzo not to take Charged eye and took uncharget and let Shisui be with MOST powerfull Jutsu ever.

And danzo its not stupid

look the ending to your argument is that Danzo stole one of shisui's eyes so shisui ran away.
probably using body flicker to where itachi met up with him at.

Or mby you wanna say that Shisui was 30 years old and both eyes was rdy to use ? Coz that would be just silly.

He cant acomplish his plan why ?
No KA. End of theory

you are just trolling now, but I see it Lol

 

[DeDoll]

then this also points in the direction of the 9tails fox chakra and jinchuriki

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Kushina doesnt have the whiskers....Naruto does....Kinkaku & Ginkaku does....WHY?
I think its because Ginkaku & Kinkaku were actually inside KURAMA...
Naruto was inside Kurama's Jinchuriki while She was Pregnant...
kushina was NEVER INSIDE the 9tails or the 9tails Jinchuriki...
Ginkaku & Kinkaku & naruto ate Kurama's chakra...
We Know it says Kinkaku & Ginkaku were inside Kurama and ate his chakra to get out...
But maybe Naruto did while he was in Kushina, as a baby eats their mother's nutrients inside.


danzo stole the right eye, itachi was left with the left eye
and the left eye is the only one affiliated with itachi from shisui's KA

Ohh yea rly posible he coudnt save one eye, but he can save other. Anbu would hunt him down if he would ran away from danzo am i wrong ? but no1 was hunting him why ?

 

[foxyladyland]

I'll admit that that theory about naruto and the brothers is plausible.

thanksLol and that same analysis could be used in this situation involving the KA being inside of Naruto and recharging faster

 

[DeDoll]

and answer why he should change his plan if he have everything he need for it ?


BRB i must go for 1 hour

 

[foxyladyland]

Ohh yea rly posible he coudnt save one eye, but he can save other. Anbu would hunt him down if he would ran away from danzo am i wrong ? but no1 was hunting him why ?

once again. anbu are under the hokage and they are different from root shinobi who also wear masks

and answer why he should change his plan if he have everything he need for it ?


BRB i must go for 1 hour

you are done with Lol but nice try attempting to hang in there

 

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

You know what?
Your theory might be plausible.
I remember Itachi stating that Kotoamatsukami needed time to recharge, hence, he could not use it on Sasuke.
Which means the eye's power must have been used on someone or something before it was passed on to Itachi by Shisui.

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But... here is where the problem starts. If Shisui did indeed use it on Itachi... his right eye should have converted back into a simple 3 tomoe sharingan prior to the techniques activation? Which it did not. (or maybe it simply wasn't shown due to the fact that he plucked out the eye after he activated Kotoamatsukami?) More so is the fact that when a Dojutsu based technique activates itself there would be a sound effect indicating that the technique was used.

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In the image you showed there was none... I am not saying your theory is impossible.

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There was a sound effect but I think it was just the hand grasping the eye.
Or it could've been Kotoamatsukami activating itself, Lol.

And it's still not clear whether Kotoamatsukami affects the target eternally even upon the original casters death. In my honest opinion, it doesn't. If it can... don't you think when Kabuto was affected by Kotoamatsukami Itachi would've used the same method Shisui used on him? Also, when plucking out an eye... I don't think the eye which was plucked out of it's socket from an Uchiha can still use a Mangekyou technique. It's like saying Obito can use Kamui on Kakashi's eye.

I don't know if this post of mine is relevant to the topic being discussed but oh well...

And you still didn't post a counter argument on Kotoamatsukami being canceled out upon a users death.
Sorry I don't know what I am posting. I hope my English doesn't suck enough to the point that you cannot understand it. Sorry.

 

[DeDoll]

Damn my last post.

Danzo is not fool.
You think Danzo dont know what power Shisui had ? Dont you think Danzo knew evrything about shisui. He was afraid of his power?
After all he had shinobys who can penetrate to person mind and ect.
And if he could take one eye why you think he couldnt take and second ?
If danzo want to take both eyes why he need shisui than anymore he coulded just kill him and take both eyes.
He is smarter than you think. Without KA Shisui was useless.

My theory is much much posible than yours. Your theory is made from 3-5 other theorys.