SM Jiraiya>SM Naruto

[Vandenre1ch]

I think SM Jiraiya>SM Naruto.

Jiraiya was able to solo 3 Pains and when all 6 swarmed him, he still slipped away and killed one. Pain himself said that if Jiraiya would've won if he had intel. Jiraiya also did most of the work without summons.

Naruto with intel, help, the asura path dead, and the Deva Path ofc still lost. 2 pains was still alive in the end. SM Naruto alone was BARELY able to take out the Deva Path in a 1v1 fight.

This just proves that SM Jiraiya beats SM Naruto.

 

[WhiteMangekyou]

I agree, SM Jiraya is stronger than SM Naruto. Jiraya was so cool in his final battle, I never got over how strong he was.

 

[Metronomy]

Naruto VS 6pop survives and wins.
jiraya VS 6pop Dies by ownage.

 

[Lucidus]

i agree that SM jiraiya > SM naruto

however i still want to point out that naruto has a better sage mode ^^

 

[Mingxia]

yep i agree do not underestimate master jiraiya

 

[xjimbox]

Naruto took all f them on and won. And jman didnt even master it

 

[ReeseKage]

Nah son. OG Pa frog said that Naruto chan surpassed Jiriya chan

 

[Lucidus]

Nah son. OG Pa frog said that Naruto chan surpassed Jiriya chan

in terms of sage mode however jiraiya had a stronger base mode than naruto

 

[Mellanoma]

I think SM Jiraiya>SM Naruto.

Jiraiya was able to solo 3 Pains and when all 6 swarmed him, he still slipped away and killed one. Pain himself said that if Jiraiya would've won if he had intel. Jiraiya also did most of the work without summons.

Naruto with intel, help, the asura path dead, and the Deva Path ofc still lost. 2 pains was still alive in the end. SM Naruto alone was BARELY able to take out the Deva Path in a 1v1 fight.

This just proves that SM Jiraiya beats SM Naruto.

Honestly, they both had help in there fights

Jiraiya was helped by Ma and Pa Genjutsu

Naruto was saved by the nine tails and his dad AFTER pain used up most his energy wiping out the village.

 

[BazzBee]

Naruto mastered Sage mode Jiraiya didn't !

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Naruto VS 6pop survives and wins.
jiraya VS 6pop Dies by ownage.

Naruto with help, prep time and intel vs 4 and a half paths and loses and gives up like a b1tch.
Jiraiya no intel and 1 arm vs 6pop and he still kills one and dies with a smile.

Naruto took all f them on and won. And jman didnt even master it

Naruto who mastered sage mode lost to the Pains twice in a row while Jiraiya with an imperfect version killed 4 with no intel.

 

[Kurama2012]

when it comes to sage mode power no jiraiya isnt stronger as that would be stupid as perfect sage mode>>> imperfect sage mode but a stronger sage mode doesn't really mean better fighter so jiraiya would most likely beat naruto but i wouldn't rule naruto out all together as he did beat pain and pain only got the upper hand when deva path gained his ability back

 

[Kurama2012]

Naruto with help, prep time and intel vs 4 and a half paths and loses and gives up like a b1tch.
Jiraiya no intel and 1 arm vs 6pop and he still kills one and dies with a smile.


Naruto who mastered sage mode lost to the Pains twice in a row while Jiraiya with an imperfect version killed 4 with no intel.

do you even know what losing is, pain never knocked naruto out he just sustained him for brief moment and the fight was never over only pain fanboys end it at that point also your telling me pain didnt have prep time he went to invade one of the great villages so yes he did have prep time and he had some knowledge on naruto and if we are going to include hinata as help then konan can be classed as help also as she was willing to inter vein at any time and she did just before naruto was about to go punch nagato

 

[Olorin]

Jiraya > Nagato, if he knew about Pain the ones he killed would never have come back, he could have won

Narutos SM while he was battling Pain was much weaker than Jiraiyas, dont know about now

 

[SixPathsOfTobi]

Even with kyuubi ripped out of naruto's body he would own jiraiya, even when we say jiraiya can sustain his sage mode without the frogs on his shoulders.

 

[Kurama2012]

Jiraya > Nagato, if he knew about Pain the ones he killed would never have come back, he could have won

Narutos SM while he was battling Pain was much weaker than Jiraiyas, dont know about now

no way, narutos sage mode was and is stronger than jiraiyas as it is perfect sage mode meaning there are no faults in strength and unbalanced which jiraiyas was some what unbalance as he underwent frog mutation the only thin jiraiya has over naruto is his techs and over all battle knowledge

 

[TomAD1]

consider the fact that naruto is 16 years old and doesnt have much combat experience, jiraya on the other hand....

 

[iKaras]

Jiraya wasn't taking on Deva path. CT would have wrecked him and the toads.

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

Jiraya never went up against Deva path one on one. When he did go up against him, he had to fight all pains and died...

Naruto only had trouble with Deva path. Jiraya never faced Deva paths power... *Just sayin*

 

[KcMSean]

Only intel Naruto had was that the eyes were linked, and nagato wasn't there. How does that actually make much of a difference, considering he still had to fight and beat all 6? Just cause he knew doesn't negate the fact he fought all of them. With or without intel he still would have fought them and won. It's not like knowing magically took away the connections between there eyes