Obito vs Hashirama

[nakumaru]

Or how about you stop claiming to know Kishi's intentions and start debating more instead of calling people whatever?

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[TheSages456]

Or how about you stop claiming to know Kishi's intentions and start debating more instead of calling people whatever?

or how about you actually read the manga then get back to me instead of wasting my time posting nonsense like you're doing right now?

 

[nakumaru]

because if you read the manga without being biased, it should be obvious who kishi is implying to be the strongest. its not obito, naruto or madara.

Kishi said prime Hiruzen made Hashi look like a joke.

 

[Xlad]

Hashirama can practically put Kurama to sleep. So the other 6 Bijuus shouldn't be too much of a problem. Not only that, but Hashirama proved himself to outlast almost everyone in terms of chakra and stamina.

Mid-Difficulty at best for me.

 

[TheSages456]

Kishi said prime Hiruzen made Hashi look like a joke.

no he didnt. thats pretty much irrelevant to the topic of the thread anyway.

 

[nakumaru]

no he didnt. thats pretty much irrelevant to the topic of the thread anyway.

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Both of those are in the context in which the 1st is apart of.

So I'm gonna use your logic for a bit.

Kishi > you. Hashitard.

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More of your logic:

Zestu called Itachi invincible and Hashi said Itachi was a better shinobi

Itachi > Hashirama in your opinion.

 

[TheSages456]

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Both of those are in the context in which the 1st is apart of.

So I'm gonna use your logic for a bit.

Kishi > you. Hashitard.

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More of your logic:

Zestu called Itachi invincible and Hashi said Itachi was a better shinobi

Itachi > Hashirama in your opinion.

-and then he said hashirama>hiruzen a few hundred chapters later.

-kishi calls any characters he wants us to know is strong invincible. he called madara invincible while retaining his inferiority to hashirama.

yes, hashirama does think that itachi is a better shinobi than him. hashiramas definition of a shinobi is someone that endures and itachi went through A lot more life changing events in his life than hashirama and still endured through all of it. so yes itachi is a better shinobi than hashirama.

if you really wanted to prove me wrong, you should at least read the manga first and not post crap.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Hashirama can practically put Kurama to sleep. So the other 6 Bijuus shouldn't be too much of a problem

who said they needed to turn into full bijuu form?

Not only that, but Hashirama proved himself to outlast almost everyone in terms of chakra and stamina.

he only barely outlasted madara. actually he didnt even do this. madara doesnt compare to sages and edos and bijuus in terms of stamina

according to kishi, only madara can stand up to hashirama.

no one was fully aware of obito's powers till recently nor has anyone had any reason to compare him to hashirama. madara said obito is similar to him in more ways than just personality.
madara is world famous whereas obito hid in the shadows till the war arc

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

kishi calls any characters he wants us to know is strong invincible. he called madara invincible while retaining his inferiority to hashirama.

thats impossible. if your invincible you have no equal or superior. he calls any character who has a ridicously overinflated reputation invincible. nagato was called invincible. and so was madara, by itachi himself.

 

[Sensational]

Not this again... if anyone is willing to make a decent argument ill take them on...

 

[Wakizashi]

i highly doubt that obito can solo hashirama senju. obito's chakra spike can't alter his surroundings im just saying!

 

[- Їиfєяио -]

Not this again... if anyone is willing to make a decent argument ill take them on...

dude der is nothing to argue here ...

obito stomps ... high diff

 

[Minator93]

Obito takes this with High Diff U_U

 

[HungryMaelstrom]

Time to get overly analytical.....
Obito Useful jutsu's
abilities he has that would hold relevance against Hashirama

Spoiler

-Izangi
-(right)Kamui
-Six paths of pain surveillance
-Fire release ninjutsu
-Sharingan

Tools
-Sages treasured tools
-Gunbai & ninjato

Physical capabilities
-Hashi cells high stamina and Disposable right extremities.
-Very excellent taijutsu one almost rival to kimimaros bracken dance.

Main stategy:
Primary: Cautious approach mostly ranged, using the jinchuricki to wield the forbidden tools of the sage
+Result success at sealing hashirama ...probability low 8% -Result Hashi stall jinkurichi ...probability High 92%
^leads to biju transformation to over come the ichidame ...Success rate: low maybe 10%

Secondary strat:
Kamui, Rinnegan and Genjutsu
It is unclear to me how hashirama is effected by genjutsu but nonetheless Obito will attempt a Genjutsu of some sort, Obito doesn't have any variations of tsukoyomi So successfully changing the tide of battle with his genjutsu would be low... Using the rinnegans abilities without external body is estimated to have its drawbacks on Obitos body so It wont go overused However using the Kamui in conjunction with the /rinnegans ninjutsu absorbing technique he can literally acheive near perfect intagability for a set time. Obito can also use soul removal to gain even more intel on hashirama. putting him at a better position...
Probability of ending battle 20-50%
Probability of Success 70-90%

Last resort:
Yep Izanagi... to undo the fatal blow hashirama might deliver potentially...this will be used at an expense of eternally closing either the rinnegan or the Obito's right eye... (unless he implants an eye into his hand.... but lets not do that for reasonable purposes) I'd suggest closing the rinnegan, It uses more chakra, and is probably exhausted and fully exposed by then, and Hashi would have appropriate counters for all powers of the rinnegan...
Also using the Izangi to close in on Hashi so he can touch him will be the ultimate acquisition for Obito and he will successfully capture hashi.
Probability of success.... high


Hashirama analysis...

Spoiler

Practical techniques:
-Wood release
-Sealing jutsu
-Summoning Jutsu
-Infinite darkness jutsu

Tools
-Scroll of seals
-Sword

Physical cap.
-Senju DNA (purest form)
-Skilled in kin & Taijutsu (not 100% calibrated not absolutely sure what the full extent is) - estimated strength similar to Tsunades.
-Infinite mitotic regeneration
-High stamina

The ichidame will be on the defense for the whole full forst half of this fight, he will have to counter summon and seal the jinkuriki without exposing himself to much to obito...Supressing the biju will be simple for him Using only the Senpō: Mokuton: Shin Sūsenju & Mokuton jutsu such as hotei and Hobi... His Mokuton could very well stop the Gedo mazo with little to no problem.

Approaching...
Using his Wood release: advent of flowering trees he could potentially cut the battle short by sporing Obito, but obito can counter with various fire release jutsu. Infinite darkness jutsu would be useful in evading ocular techniques, If hashi Uses it to avoid making eye contact with any vector carrying the ocular genjutsu stimulant.

Overall hashi would have to use ranged attacks such as Deep forest emergence and target Obito with physical attacks during the intervals in which obito is forced to be tangable, but however those can be countered by the rinnegan.

Very hard battle for hashirama considering that If they engage in hand to hand combat, The battle will roughly be in Obitos favor.
However If obito fails to exhaust Hashis summons then he'll be eating wooden fists all day long...

I say the battle goes to Obito 55-45%