Rainbow Dash
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Demystifying the power level of the Monkey King Enma (猿猴王・猿魔) and Sage Mode hype.
Hypothesis:
I always wondered if Hiruzen truly did have Sage Mode in his prime, but today I completely demystified the mystery. While I was watching a movie in class, I was randomly thinking about the summoning jutsu of the Narutoverse. During my time of thinking, I ascertained two things.
1) The stronger the animal you want to summon, the more chakra you will have to use.
2) Enma's power level and how it affects Hiruzen's hype.
History Lesson:
I have made the chart above that lists notable moments when a character uses a form of summoning jutsu in the manga. It took me about 2 minutes to make, so don't laugh. Let me go down the list. When Naruto successfully used summoning jutsu for the first time, he only summoned a tadpole because it was stated that Naruto could not knead enough chakra. Later on, Jiraiya put Naruto's life on the line, thus why Naruto was able to leak out enough chakra in order to be able to summon Gamabunta. During the Tsunade Retrieval arc, Jiraiya was going to fight against Orochimaru. Jiraiya was drunk at the time so he lacked chakra control, thus why he was only able to summon Gamakichi. After the alcohol wore off, only then was Jiraiya able to summon Gamabunta without a problem. Later on, Orochimaru was going to summon Manda. He could not do it by himself because his arms were sealed off, explaining why he needed Kabuto to assist him in the summoning. Jiraiya fought Pain, and realized he needed to summon the two great toad sages, Fukasaku and Shima. Summoning animals on the level of Fukasaku and Shima required a tremendous amount chakra, thus why Jiraiya needed to weave chakra for a long time. When Nagato used Chou Shinra Tensei, Shima then proceeds to summon Naruto, Fukasaku, and 3 other Toads, all requiring prep time to build up chakra for the summoning. The last example is Minato. He specifically stated he needed a time to build up chakra in order to reverse summon(FTG) Kurama into somewhere else. Thus why he lost all of his chakra after this last FTG.
With the history lesson and the chart above, it's quite obvious that the stronger the thing you want to summon, the more chakra it takes.
Conclusion:
Judging by the scale of the picture above, Monkey King Enma is most likely under Gamabuntas level. Hiruzen's chakra level were significantly lower than the summoners I put on the chart, but he did summon Enma with fair ease. It just tells me that Enma is fodder compared to Fukasaku and Shima. It's pretty logical that Enma is just below Gamabunta, because Enma was still able to fend off Kurama. Personally, I am Hiruzen fan myself, but I can't really disagree with the manga logic. Because Enma is lower than Gamabunta, there is no way in hell Hiruzen can share Sage Mode with Enma.
Hypothesis:
I always wondered if Hiruzen truly did have Sage Mode in his prime, but today I completely demystified the mystery. While I was watching a movie in class, I was randomly thinking about the summoning jutsu of the Narutoverse. During my time of thinking, I ascertained two things.
1) The stronger the animal you want to summon, the more chakra you will have to use.
2) Enma's power level and how it affects Hiruzen's hype.
History Lesson:
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I have made the chart above that lists notable moments when a character uses a form of summoning jutsu in the manga. It took me about 2 minutes to make, so don't laugh. Let me go down the list. When Naruto successfully used summoning jutsu for the first time, he only summoned a tadpole because it was stated that Naruto could not knead enough chakra. Later on, Jiraiya put Naruto's life on the line, thus why Naruto was able to leak out enough chakra in order to be able to summon Gamabunta. During the Tsunade Retrieval arc, Jiraiya was going to fight against Orochimaru. Jiraiya was drunk at the time so he lacked chakra control, thus why he was only able to summon Gamakichi. After the alcohol wore off, only then was Jiraiya able to summon Gamabunta without a problem. Later on, Orochimaru was going to summon Manda. He could not do it by himself because his arms were sealed off, explaining why he needed Kabuto to assist him in the summoning. Jiraiya fought Pain, and realized he needed to summon the two great toad sages, Fukasaku and Shima. Summoning animals on the level of Fukasaku and Shima required a tremendous amount chakra, thus why Jiraiya needed to weave chakra for a long time. When Nagato used Chou Shinra Tensei, Shima then proceeds to summon Naruto, Fukasaku, and 3 other Toads, all requiring prep time to build up chakra for the summoning. The last example is Minato. He specifically stated he needed a time to build up chakra in order to reverse summon(FTG) Kurama into somewhere else. Thus why he lost all of his chakra after this last FTG.
With the history lesson and the chart above, it's quite obvious that the stronger the thing you want to summon, the more chakra it takes.
Conclusion:
Judging by the scale of the picture above, Monkey King Enma is most likely under Gamabuntas level. Hiruzen's chakra level were significantly lower than the summoners I put on the chart, but he did summon Enma with fair ease. It just tells me that Enma is fodder compared to Fukasaku and Shima. It's pretty logical that Enma is just below Gamabunta, because Enma was still able to fend off Kurama. Personally, I am Hiruzen fan myself, but I can't really disagree with the manga logic. Because Enma is lower than Gamabunta, there is no way in hell Hiruzen can share Sage Mode with Enma.
