Showdown: AfricanProdigy's Arguement Central (First Edition)

[AfricanProdigy]

Alright, so I was wondering if anyone would like to compete against me in an Arguement/VS battle. There are little character restrictions, with the only ones being Hashirama, Madara, and Sage of Six Paths. My preferred characters are Kakuzu, Orochimaru, Killer Bee and Minato. Come at me against any of these four characters! To make things simple there will be no specific judges on here, anyone is allowed to judge/comment on an arguement whether they want to agree or disagree with a certain point(s) made during any arguement, although if you throw a battle at me it would be a different case, as we are, well arguing! If you have any questions I will answer almost all of them, and if none, again:

Come at me.

 

[AnimeKingXD]

Itachi VS Kakuzu

 

[AfricanProdigy]

Itachi VS Kakuzu

Kakuzu could win because of this:

While Kakuzu could get hit by Itachi's Tskuyomi or any of his genjutsu, in that case, he could release one or multiple hearts to do the work for him without any eye contact and to keep Itachi on his feet. Although Itachi could employ Susano'o to defend again the barrage of attacks, before he even gets the chance to, Kakuzu could fully transform into his final stage of Earth Grudge Fear. Considering how fast he is in this mode (able to trap Kakashi and Team Asuma's feet in mere seconds without them realizing at first) he could trap Itachi in that manner while pressuring him with all four hearts. Not even Itachi's speed is enough to deal with that. In an instant, Kakuzu would win.

 

[Erin]

Minato VS Itachi

Kakuzu vs Taka Sasuke or Hebi Sasuke

or

Kimmimaru vs Kidomaru

I got everyone on the right.

 

[AfricanProdigy]

Minato VS Itachi

Kakuzu vs Taka Sasuke or Hebi Sasuke

or

Kimmimaru vs Kidomaru

I got everyone on the right.

Minato vs. Itachi:

Minato without a doubt outspeeds Itachi with his S-Rank Jutsu Flying Thunder God, so genjutsu isn't much of a problem for him and nether is Amaterasu, because with both techniques Minato's FTG will be too fast for Itachi to make eye contact with him. The main trouble is Susano'o. Now by this time, Minato has evaded his ninjutsu, and with the addition of Itachi most likely using Amaterasu by then he will be fatigued and his chakra reserves at a medium-low level. Not to mention he has an illness. With all of these factors his Susano'o might be slightly weakened. Despite this, admittedly Susano'o will still be a force to be reckoned with. And that is why Minato has the help of the toads from Myoboku. If Minato was able to teleport the frogs around (albeit to a much lesser extent) and their fast, great hops, they could try to maneuver around Susano'o. With a combination technique, they could attack Itachi with a boiling water technique while at the same time, with Susano'o weakened, Minato could teleport behind Susano'o from its blind side and use a Giant Rasengan to get rid of Susano'o. By then Itachi's chakra levels would've run out and he would be killed.

 

[Erin]

Hold on, where is this fight? I want a forest with a circular clearing about 15 -30 meters wide.

Restrictions: Minato has no prep time or planted kunai at any location. Minato also has limited numbers of kunai, he has shown the ability to throw approximately 17 kunai with one or two remaining so lets say he has 20.

And are we using itachi in part 1 or part 2 health?

 

[AfricanProdigy]

Hold on, where is this fight? I want a forest with a circular clearing about 15 -30 meters wide.

Ok, fair enough. How about...Forest of Death? There are quite a few clearings.

 

[Obito3631]

Orochimaru (without edos) vs Hidan

 

[Erin]

Ok, fair enough. How about...Forest of Death? There are quite a few clearings.

Uhhh, nah, thats to much in minato's favor, the tree's are to large. Are the rest of my restrictions ok with you? ( I just want minato's FTG to be realistic.) How about the Gennin Training area?

 

[AfricanProdigy]

Orochimaru (without edos) vs Hidan

Hidan, without a partner, is essentially trash. He also admits he is the slowest Akatsuki member. Orochimaru would only need to use his slithering snake transformation technique, and slice his head off with the SoK before Hidan even gets his blood.

 

[AfricanProdigy]

ok, are the rest of my restrictions ok with you? ( I just want minato's FTG to be realistic.)

Yup. You can now reply to my argument stating Minato could beat Itachi. Might wanna skip the part I said about Minato using FTG on the frogs lol it is a bit cheap and unrealistic

 

[Obito3631]

Hidan, without a partner, is essentially trash. He also admits he is the slowest Akatsuki member. Orochimaru would only need to use his slithering snake transformation technique, and slice his head off with the SoK before Hidan even gets his blood.

orochimaru wont be able to cut his head off with a sword only. He said his attacks were the slowest not himself.

 

[AfricanProdigy]

orochimaru wont be able to cut his head off with a sword only. He said his attacks were the slowest not himself.

Still think that Orochimaru is too fast anyway even if it's Hidan's attacks that are the slowest. The only Jutsu Hidan knows is his voodoo technique which requires his blood. And since Orochimaru would be able to easily evade Hidan's attack and Jutsu, he's just and immortal guy with a scythe. And Orochimaru has a wide array of attacks and Jutsu that are more than enough to decpitate/bisect an immortal guy with a scythe.

 

[Obito3631]

Still think that Orochimaru is too fast anyway even if it's Hidan's attacks that are the slowest. The only Jutsu Hidan knows is his voodoo technique which requires his blood. And since Orochimaru would be able to easily evade Hidan's attack and Jutsu, he's just and immortal guy with a scythe. And Orochimaru has a wide array of attacks and Jutsu that are more than enough to decpitate/bisect an immortal guy with a scythe.

Like what? Like I've already said, he won't be able to cut off his head with a sword having only 3.5 in strength.
Asuma is just as fast as Oro yet he wasn't able to evade his scythe.

 

[PredictionGuru]

I've come at you.

Now, there's a towel in the bathroom. You could use it.

 

[Invsblphntm]

Nagato vs all four of those characters


Nagato starts with Chibaku Tensei under the premise that it takes at least Rasenshuriken/Hachibi TBB/Yasaka Magatama to destroy it

 

[AfricanProdigy]

Nagato vs all four of those characters


Nagato starts with Chibaku Tensei under the premise that it takes at least Rasenshuriken/Hachibi TBB/Yasaka Magatama to destroy it

Minato: Just needs to summon the three boss toads and use an epic collaboration technique
Orochimaru: Revive Hashirama and Tobirama and use their best wood and water techniques together or just revive Mū (if possible) and use Dust Release
Kakuzu: All four hearts collaborate to use a combination of Fire, Water, Wind and Lightning techniques
Killer Bee: Tailed Beast Bomb

That's more than enough to destroy Chibaku Tensei.

 

[AfricanProdigy]

@Obito3631
"Like what? Like I've already said, he won't be able to cut off his head with a sword having only 3.5 in strength.
Asuma is just as fast as Oro yet he wasn't able to evade his scythe."

Databooks mean shit you obviously know nothing. These are the same databooks that said Lee's speed even with the gates is the same as Kiba's, which simply isn't true. And being the student of the one who knew all techniques in Konoha you would assume he has a wide array of Jutsu.

 

[Erin]

Minato vs. Itachi:

Minato without a doubt outspeeds Itachi with his S-Rank Jutsu Flying Thunder God, so genjutsu isn't much of a problem for him and nether is Amaterasu, because with both techniques Minato's FTG will be too fast for Itachi to make eye contact with him. The main trouble is Susano'o. Now by this time, Minato has evaded his ninjutsu, and with the addition of Itachi most likely using Amaterasu by then he will be fatigued and his chakra reserves at a medium-low level. Not to mention he has an illness. With all of these factors his Susano'o might be slightly weakened. Despite this, admittedly Susano'o will still be a force to be reckoned with. And that is why Minato has the help of the toads from Myoboku. If Minato was able to teleport the frogs around (albeit to a much lesser extent) and their fast, great hops, they could try to maneuver around Susano'o. With a combination technique, they could attack Itachi with a boiling water technique while at the same time, with Susano'o weakened, Minato could teleport behind Susano'o from its blind side and use a Giant Rasengan to get rid of Susano'o. By then Itachi's chakra levels would've run out and he would be killed.

Ok, I changed my Mind I want Gennin Training area, Part 1 stamina.

Itachi being arguably the greatest user of shuriken jutsu known in the manga , can easily deflect and redirect every one of minato's flying thunder god kunais'. Not only is itachi a greater user of projectile skill than minato, but minato's kunai are oddly shapped and heavy, which will make them harder to throw.

Minato's reactions seems to be on par, if not above 3 tomoe sharingan levels, so are itachi's, as seen here.

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And here as Itachi is extremely fast at drawing kunai. So much that infact as seasoned sharingan user cannot keep up. (though he only has one sharingan he still is skilled in its use.) As well as the advantage of the sharingan's prediction and perception.

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Itachi has shown to be fatigued after using three consecutive MS techniques. Itachi needs to cast Amaterasu once to set the forest alight, he can deflect minato's kunai sending them to where they best suit him, or deep into the quickly flaming forest. This confines them to a relatively small area of open land.

From here, Itachi can either successively prepare and implement inzanami, (which minato has no knowledge of, and thus will be rendered unable to escape. Or he can trick minato by injuring him with a explosive clone. (which Itachi has shown to be able to use without even a sharingan user like sasuke differentiating the clone from his physical body.)

 

[AfricanProdigy]

Ok, I changed my Mind I want Gennin Training area, Part 1 stamina.

Itachi being arguably the greatest user of shuriken jutsu known in the manga , can easily deflect and redirect every one of minato's flying thunder god kunais'. Not only is itachi a greater user of projectile skill than minato, but minato's kunai are oddly shapped and heavy, which will make them harder to throw.

Minato's reactions seems to be on par, if not above 3 tomoe sharingan levels, so are itachi's, as seen here.

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And here as Itachi is extremely fast at drawing kunai. So much that infact as seasoned sharingan user cannot keep up. (though he only has one sharingan he still is skilled in its use.) As well as the advantage of the sharingan's prediction and perception.

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Itachi has shown to be fatigued after using three consecutive MS techniques. Itachi needs to cast Amaterasu once to set the forest alight, he can deflect minato's kunai sending them to where they best suit him, or deep into the quickly flaming forest. This confines them to a relatively small area of open land.

From here, Itachi can either successively prepare and implement inzanami, (which minato has no knowledge of, and thus will be rendered unable to escape. Or he can trick minato by injuring him with a explosive clone. (which Itachi has shown to be able to use without even a sharingan user like sasuke differentiating the clone from his physical body.)

Ok, you got me! I really don't know how to argue with that. You make very good points. I think I will admit my defeat on this one XD. You are very good! Care to do another? I'll try even harder next time!