Naruto vs Sasuke, a discussion.

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EliteRamenNinja

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Some typical Sasuke-fanboy arguments that I often see in a Naruto vs Sasuke discussion. Let me repeat them here and answer them with the logical truth. Don't be butthurted.


1. Without Kurama, Naruto is not strong!

First of all it is ridiculous to say Naruto is nothing without Kurama. Without the Kyuubi, Naruto is still top-10 in the Shinobi list. I mean, the dude can control his Sage Mode almost perfectly by now. He gave Pain, who was a MOSTER, a very good and hard fight in Sage Mode when he just got it. So he was not experienced in it yet, but still Naruto was that strong. He is also still young so time enough to make his Sage Mode perfect, or even better then perfect, haha.
So without Kurama, Naruto would still be strong.

It is also ridiculous to say 'Kurama and Naruto'... Why? Because Kurama and Naruto are one. Face it, they are both one. If you talk about Kurama, it also mentions Naruto. When you talk about Naruto, you also mention Kurama. It is automaticaly. Don't act like Kurama was a gift, because it was not. Naruto suffered more because of it. But because of acting like a boss, Kurama respected him and the 'one team' has become legit.


2. Naruto needs to be saved all the time, by Kurama or others!!!

What is this shit? First of all I already explained that Naruto and Kurama are one. But it is funny that Sasuke-fans dare to say stuff like this... Let me remember you guys someting.

Sasuke vs Danzo: Karin helped him by saying Danzo's movements because Sasuke couldn't see them.
Sasuke vs Killer Bee: Without Team Taka, Bee would have killed Sasuke easily.
Sasuke vs The Kages: Without Obito, Sasuke would be dead.
Sasuke vs Kabuto: Itachi was there, no more explanation needed I think.

Then we have Naruto. He defeated Pain alone, Kakuzo, 3th Raikage, Gaara in part 1, and so on and on. All great fights, and great victories.

By other words, Sasuke needed a lot of help too. More then Naruto actually. Because Naruto and Kurama are, I repeat myself again, one. If you say 'Naruto without Kurama', I can also say 'Sasuke without his eyes (Sharingan) or Orochimaru's seal'... It is ridiculous! Naruto deserves all credits for making Kurama 'his pet/friend'...


3. Naruto lost against Sasuke at veto!

That was in part 1. Naruto did not know Sasuke's new cheating powers he got from Orochimaru. And Naruto was not only fighting against Sasuke, yes, you read this well. He was also fighting against the Kyuubi for the control of his body. You say Naruto was that strong because of Kurama? No, it was a burden, also in that fight.

Btw, at this moment, Naruto Sage Mode > Sasuke. Even Zetsu mentioned it. Sasuke's sharingan is no use against Sage Mode protection. That's why Kishimoto soon will give Sasuke an incredible power-up, so that Naruto vs Sasuke will be a good match.
 
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I agree Naruto would beat Sasuke's ass from one end to the next.
 

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Lmao someone's a Naruto fanboy though. ;)
 

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Part 1 Naruto > Part 1 Sasuke.
 

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Part 1 Naruto > Part 1 Sasuke.

That fight upsets me. :(
 

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Hahha

Fanboyism at its best....i would love to prove you wrong and i can, but there is no point in doing that.
 

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Hahha

Fanboyism at its best....i would love to prove you wrong and i can, but there is no point in doing that.

Because you can't.

I am out soon, I will read some more answers tomorrow.
 

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first comment haha

basically.

i didnt even read because this kid is clearly biased.


you cant compare a bloodline trait to

being given a tailed beast after birth.


so anybody takeing away the sharagin from sasuke is probably a naruto fanboy
 

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Naruto said it himself that sasuke is stronger than him when he had SM everything you posted up there was excuses sasuke already > naruto in part 1
 

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Naruto said it himself that sasuke is stronger than him when he had SM everything you posted up there was excuses sasuke already > naruto in part 1

Zetsu: "Naruto is stronger then you now, Sasuke"...

/your argument.


PS: It is funny, already 2 Sasuke fanboys came with this bullshit "You are a fanboy, I don't even react on it, Sasuke > Naruto"... Typical ''''''arguments''''' from people who can't argue on a proper level.

Hopefully tomorrow I see some better arguments.
 

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Haha Agreed :yayy:
 

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Hahha

Fanboyism at its best....i would love to prove you wrong and i can, but there is no point in doing that.

i think its borderline trolling.

He says SM naruto>sasuke

but even SM naruto himself said MS Sasuke was better than him

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Part 1 Naruto > Part 1 Sasuke.

oh cool story bro. what about the fact that naruto has never beaten sasuke in a fight?

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yeah naruto>sasuke
 

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Part 1 Naruto > Part 1 Sasuke.


naruto part 2 >>>> sasuke part 2 Current :cool:
 

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Well, I am happy to see many people agree (with the truth). Thank you (for not being blind). :)
 

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Because you can't.

I am out soon, I will read some more answers tomorrow.

I can't? okay, let's see about that.

Against Orochinaru

honor? You must be high son...there is no such thing call honor in the Ninja world..it's kill or be killed and Sasuke did the that which i find no problem with so deal with it.

Against Itachi

What did you expect? Sasuke fought with just 3 tome Sharingan while Itachi had MS tecunques like Tsukuyomi,Amaterasu, and Susanoo and Sasuke still pushed Itachi to his limit by making him use Susanoo to save him which no other Ninja did...not Kisame,Deidara,Kakashi, and Naruto

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Against Deidara

Your excuses are truly pitiful man ...was someone there to help Sasuke? no
Sasuke summoned the snake and put Genjutus so as far as i can see...the was a clear victory for Sasuke.

Against Killer Bee

Wait? how was this a Sasuke vs Killer Bee? It was a Taka vs Sasuke and on top of that Sasuke still wasn't heal from his fight against Itachi and Sasuke only had MS with Amaterasu which he got from in the end.

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Against A

Where is your prove that A would have won if that fight continued?

Sasuke was would have won that fight do to him still having his Ribcage Susanoo on and had Blaze Release to burn A alive....Ribcage Susanoo took on A's Raiger Bomb which nearly destroyed the ground and the best it could do against Ribcage Susanoo was crack one of his Ribs.....Sasuke would have survived the kick and A would have burned to death.

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Against Danzo

I won't even bother with this type of excuses.....just look at the bottom for the full explaining.

You're wrong on so many points that i lost account of them..it's true Karin was trying to analyze Danzo's Izanagi, but she couldn't be more wrong about while Sasuke was the one who doing the analyzing from the start of the fight and i love how you posted that image of Karin healing Sasuke because as far as i know that fight was over when that happened...the fact Sasuke made Danzo look like a fool and out smarted Danzo from the beginning of and then kill him 11 times and one time with a shuriken is enough fact for me to know Danzo wasn't stronger than MS Sasuke and one more point...what does try to teleport to Sasuke has to do with anything? did he save Sasuke? no...did Sasuke saved himself? yes...so i don't see what point you made.

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Point one:^See, how Sasuke was the one who tricked Danzo into revealing that his information about Izanagi was right on the money.

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Point two:^Notice, Obito says what Karin told Sasuke to do was pointless from the started and what Sasuke used Susanoo not just for strong attack, but to make Danzo use all of his Izanagi eyes so Sasuke can kill Danzo without worrying about Izanagi coming into play.

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^point three:^Sasuke still knew how much Izanagi eyes Danzo had left and that why used he a Shuriken to waste his last eye.

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Point four^Love that you're only excuse was Obito teleported to Sasuke, but you hope to make a point on this, but you failed to know Sasuke broke throw Danzo's Cruse Mark on his own and that he didn't need any help from either Obito or Karin.

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Point five^Even though Danzo had more experience than Sasuke this didn't stop Sasuke from outsmarting Danzo and tricking him..even though Danzo had still had the MS and 11 Sharingans he still didn't notice he was in Genjutsu the whole time...Obito also stated because he got his on Sharingan he thought he was superior to Sasuke and he underestimated Sasuke abilities which lead him to his downfall against Sasuke.[/

Against Kabuto

Wrong, Sasuke could have just Amaterasu Kabuto from the beginning of that fight....Kabuto only lasted in that fight that long because do to the Uchihas bros holding back and also do to Sasuke lack of experience of not capturing someone alive without killing them.

Now, i would love to see you prove me wrong kid.
 
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