4th Kazekage vs Sasuke

[Masked man]

Sasuke wins.. Maybe with some difficulty.

 

[iRefleX]

Sasuke rapes low diff

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

The 4th Kazekage has to be the weakest Kage ever c'mon now

I thought you think Tsunade is the weakest Kage ever xd

OT: Sasuke wins.

 

[the dark king]

this is sasuke at the beginning of part 2 theres no way that the kazekage is losing to him

 

[genii96]

A>B>C logic gives this to sasuke.
4th gold hasnt shown to be fast as garras sand. i'm pretty sure one quick amat erasu beats him.

beats sand tsunami

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equals gourd sand speed

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it's just as fast.

Kazekage wins mid diff

 

[AGoodBoy]

Conditions: Sasuke is from the whining of pt. 2. The Kazekage is alive

Intel: Full

Location: Hidden Sand Village

Good try but he's still the weakest kage.
Before anyone mentions terrain, he fought gaara in a fairly desert area. He didn't use a grain of sand. 0% evidence that he can manipulate sand.

Sasuke wins

 

[genii96]

Good try but he's still the weakest kage.
Before anyone mentions terrain, he fought gaara in a fairly desert area. He didn't use a grain of sand. 0% evidence that he can manipulate sand.

Sasuke wins

he dosent use sand,he uses gold dust,and he beat a bijuu which makes him far from the weakest kage. He rapes sasuke

 

[AGoodBoy]

he dosent use sand,he uses gold dust,and he beat a bijuu which makes him far from the weakest kage. He rapes sasuke

I know what he uses. Yet people say he's going to use sand something when he clearly can't manipulate sand.

All he did was stop shukakus sand waves with his gold until it was able to be surpressed back into gaara.

He's far from not being the weakest

 

[genii96]

I know what he uses. Yet people say he's going to use sand something when he clearly can't manipulate sand.

All he did was stop shukakus sand waves with his gold until it was able to be surpressed back into gaara.

He's far from not being the weakest

well they are mistaken.

He didnt just stop the waves,he retsrained and stopped it's movement completely then it was sealed. Sasuke cant even use his sword here,as it is prey to jiton.

He isnt the weakest at all,he stopped gaara's sand wave easily and equaled his sand speed,he was only caught bcos he protected the other kages,a trick which has got gaara too,he beats mei and tsunade with mid diff,and beats other shinobi as well

sasuke at the beggining of part 2 is no match,what can he do against a wave of gold dust?

 

[BazzBee]

Sasuke rapes

either way i think the AKA Raman guy can take this low diff

 

[AGoodBoy]

well they are mistaken.

He didnt just stop the waves,he retsrained and stopped it's movement completely then it was sealed. Sasuke cant even use his sword here,as it is prey to jiton.

He isnt the weakest at all,he stopped gaara's sand wave easily and equaled his sand speed,he was only caught bcos he protected the other kages,a trick which has got gaara too,he beats mei and tsunade with mid diff,and beats other shinobi as well

sasuke at the beggining of part 2 is no match,what can he do against a wave of gold dust?

I'll admit Sasuke probably can't win here because I didn't even think of it, but he still has a chance.

Kazekage is missing two essential things which saved gaara from sasuke's killer blows:
Sand armor and automatic sand defence

Without those two, he is open for sharing an exploits. First Sasuke we saw in part 2 was grown up and had chidori spear, increased speed, shadow snake arms, 3 tomoe sharingan and mastery of v2 cursed seal.

Kimmimaro has shown that sand tsunami can be out run to some degree. With sharingan and v2 curse seal, Sasuke is able to move much faster than the good dust(relatively same speed as sand). The arms from v2 also offer as a defence against small dust attacks.

He doesn't need his sword, only chidori lance.

Finally, he isn't beating mei nor tsunade on his best day. Actually he might have a shot at tsunade on high diff. Boil release alone gg's him. No sand/gold armor = absolutely no defence against boil release since its basically like blocking air.

Back to Sasuke. The only thing he needs to do is get around large scale sand attacks. That should be easier since kazekage will already be blocking his line of sight.

4th kazekage =/= near gaara's strength. BTW he wasn't protecting any team mates. He was fighting gaara and gaara tried to 1 panel Gg them all.I just reread that chapter and gaara fodderized his dad.

 

[genii96]

I'll admit Sasuke probably can't win here because I didn't even think of it, but he still has a chance.

Kazekage is missing two essential things which saved gaara from sasuke's killer blows:
Sand armor and automatic sand defence

Without those two, he is open for sharing an exploits. First Sasuke we saw in part 2 was grown up and had chidori spear, increased speed, shadow snake arms, 3 tomoe sharingan and mastery of v2 cursed seal.

Kimmimaro has shown that sand tsunami can be out run to some degree. With sharingan and v2 curse seal, Sasuke is able to move much faster than the good dust(relatively same speed as sand). The arms from v2 also offer as a defence against small dust attacks.

He doesn't need his sword, only chidori lance.

Finally, he isn't beating mei nor tsunade on his best day. Actually he might have a shot at tsunade on high diff. Boil release alone gg's him. No sand/gold armor = absolutely no defence against boil release since its basically like blocking air.

Back to Sasuke. The only thing he needs to do is get around large scale sand attacks. That should be easier since kazekage will already be blocking his line of sight.

4th kazekage =/= near gaara's strength. BTW he wasn't protecting any team mates. He was fighting gaara and gaara tried to 1 panel Gg them all.I just reread that chapter and gaara fodderized his dad.

IIRC gaara said his dad taught him ninjutsu,he had sand armour in part 1,and it isnt auto,meaning his dad taught him,meaning he can do it if he wants. He dosent have auto defence,true,but he has a strong defence nontheless.

Gold is the 3rd best conductor. Any raiton attack he makes will be blocked by the gold dust which will absorb much,if not all of the attack. Gold is also highly resistant to fire,stopping his fire jutsus as well.

You can see from their battle,that his gold dust was equal to gaara's gourd sand in speed

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Which is faster than cs arc sasuke by a margin.

Even if he dodges a gold wave,the entire area would be covered in gold allowing the kazekage to easil attack from every where. Sasuke can't know where the attack is coming from. Gold spere nullifies his attacks if he hits.
He can also use sasuke's sword against him,forcing him to block both his sword strikes and gold attacks.against itachi,sasuke showed us he keeps explosive kunais and shurikens,all can be used against him,and since he keeps them very close,he wont have much time to react.

He can do a gold sphere which will guard against the mist,and like i said,he taught gaara ninjutsu,there is no reason to beleieve he cant use a gold armour,also he can fly too with his gold dust to avoid it. He can just do a gold dust wave,which would kill mei quickly,and it requires just one handsign. Larva wont help against gold,neither would water as it is 20x heavier than water and would easily over power any suiton she uses.


Look closer,
here when they clash,the other kages run to attack gaara

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here you can see the attack on the kags,and the gold dust wall,look at the edges,you can see his shield stretching to protect the others,then he was caught from below.

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i didnt say he was equal to gaara in strength,i said his gold dust equaled gaara's sand speed and stopped his sand tsunami

 

[KazekageDaichi]

IIRC gaara said his dad taught him ninjutsu,he had sand armour in part 1,and it isnt auto,meaning his dad taught him,meaning he can do it if he wants. He dosent have auto defence,true,but he has a strong defence nontheless.

Gold is the 3rd best conductor. Any raiton attack he makes will be blocked by the gold dust which will absorb much,if not all of the attack. Gold is also highly resistant to fire,stopping his fire jutsus as well.

You can see from their battle,that his gold dust was equal to gaara's gourd sand in speed

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Which is faster than cs arc sasuke by a margin.

Even if he dodges a gold wave,the entire area would be covered in gold allowing the kazekage to easil attack from every where. Sasuke can't know where the attack is coming from. Gold spere nullifies his attacks if he hits.
He can also use sasuke's sword against him,forcing him to block both his sword strikes and gold attacks.against itachi,sasuke showed us he keeps explosive kunais and shurikens,all can be used against him,and since he keeps them very close,he wont have much time to react.

He can do a gold sphere which will guard against the mist,and like i said,he taught gaara ninjutsu,there is no reason to beleieve he cant use a gold armour,also he can fly too with his gold dust to avoid it. He can just do a gold dust wave,which would kill mei quickly,and it requires just one handsign. Larva wont help against gold,neither would water as it is 20x heavier than water and would easily over power any suiton she uses.


Look closer,
here when they clash,the other kages run to attack gaara

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here you can see the attack on the kags,and the gold dust wall,look at the edges,you can see his shield stretching to protect the others,then he was caught from below.

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i didnt say he was equal to gaara in strength,i said his gold dust equaled gaara's sand speed and stopped his sand tsunami

This.
I wish we could have seen more about him u.u

 

[nakumaru]

Remember that the 4th taught Gaara Ninjutsu. He can essentially use everything Gaara can. He was also able to keep his attacks on the same scale as Gaara's and the Shukaku's.

He's well deserving of the Kage Name and can take this fight.

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Chidori wot help much getting though Gold dust, Gold is a good conductor and will disperse the lightning. Katons are also blocked by Gold Dust Shield. Large AoE attacks will eventually catch Sasuke, then Sasuke will die the death that Gaara either for him in the Chunin Exams.

Gold Dust Coffin ----> Gold Dust Burial

 

[AGoodBoy]

IIRC gaara said his dad taught him ninjutsu,he had sand armour in part 1,and it isnt auto,meaning his dad taught him,meaning he can do it if he wants. He dosent have auto defence,true,but he has a strong defence nontheless.

Gold is the 3rd best conductor. Any raiton attack he makes will be blocked by the gold dust which will absorb much,if not all of the attack. Gold is also highly resistant to fire,stopping his fire jutsus as well.

You can see from their battle,that his gold dust was equal to gaara's gourd sand in speed

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.

Which is faster than cs arc sasuke by a margin.

Even if he dodges a gold wave,the entire area would be covered in gold allowing the kazekage to easil attack from every where. Sasuke can't know where the attack is coming from. Gold spere nullifies his attacks if he hits.
He can also use sasuke's sword against him,forcing him to block both his sword strikes and gold attacks.against itachi,sasuke showed us he keeps explosive kunais and shurikens,all can be used against him,and since he keeps them very close,he wont have much time to react.

He can do a gold sphere which will guard against the mist,and like i said,he taught gaara ninjutsu,there is no reason to beleieve he cant use a gold armour,also he can fly too with his gold dust to avoid it. He can just do a gold dust wave,which would kill mei quickly,and it requires just one handsign. Larva wont help against gold,neither would water as it is 20x heavier than water and would easily over power any suiton she uses.


Look closer,
here when they clash,the other kages run to attack gaara

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here you can see the attack on the kags,and the gold dust wall,look at the edges,you can see his shield stretching to protect the others,then he was caught from below.

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i didnt say he was equal to gaara in strength,i said his gold dust equaled gaara's sand speed and stopped his sand tsunami

Honestly, I don't know what you're talking about(@ bold). That bit of gold dust from the edge was because he was sending the gold dust to that area from around him. If you're even mentioning page 10; the gold came from the side because he doesn't have a gourd. It wouldn't come from behind. I don't see anything suggesting him protecting team mates. He just got hit from below and above; so did the teammates. He was beat in 3-4 moves...

@underline - I'll need a scan of this.

I know his Dust's speed, but you seem to underestimate/you've forgotten sasuke's own. CS-V2 sasuke with 3 tomoe was able to keep up with 1 tailed naruto. That's ridiculously fast. Even faster than gaara's sand. But, hey, don't take my word for it, just look at these scans of 2 tomoe, non CS sasuke:

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Notice guy said without Weights.

From these scans we can see that sasuke was able to out speed gaara's sand.

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I would like to point out one last thing.

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He needs to activate his Jiton gold dust release. In that space of time, sasuke is already within cutting distance. He has no time for dust tsunami. Big attacks only work if he has time to use them. Sasuke would close the distance within seconds, in base form. He has incredible speed. I think it's even overlooked sometimes.


KAzekage will first have to magenitize those items before they can be used. That is assuming that his jiton works in any way similar to toroi's - As in, he can magnetize metal which comes into contact with his magnetic fields. But, Simply dodging his attacks will prevent that. If sasuke throws a shuriken and see's it gets magnetized, he's instantly figured out that aspect of the jutsu and won't do that anymore.

Sorry, I don't want to get into a mei V kazekage arguement. That'd be a second VS thread, but that dome wouldn't make sense. He's left himself closed off and can no longer see. Even with a 3rd eye, hidden mist could easily block his vision. Anyway, it's just my strong belief that mei is one of the strogest kages right now. Wish I could have seen more of her. Only Oonoki and gaara i could definitively agree beats her among the current kages.

EDIT: This is getting interesting XD

 

[AGoodBoy]

Remember that the 4th taught Gaara Ninjutsu. He can essentially use everything Gaara can. He was also able to keep his attacks on the same scale as Gaara's and the Shukaku's.

He's well deserving of the Kage Name and can take this fight.

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Chidori wot help much getting though Gold dust, Gold is a good conductor and will disperse the lightning. Katons are also blocked by Gold Dust Shield. Large AoE attacks will eventually catch Sasuke, then Sasuke will die the death that Gaara either for him in the Chunin Exams.

Gold Dust Coffin ----> Gold Dust Burial

F-F-False. Sasuke is far stronger than Chunnin sasuke, plus he was able to hurt gaara. Gaara has his absolute defence which automatically protects him. As for kazekage being able to use everything gaara can, doubtful, or he wouldn't have been fodderized. The edo's were programmed to fight back. Even if he didn't want to, he would automatically have tried to break out of garaa's jutsu if he could.

 

[genii96]

Honestly, I don't know what you're talking about(@ bold). That bit of gold dust from the edge was because he was sending the gold dust to that area from around him. If you're even mentioning page 10; the gold came from the side because he doesn't have a gourd. It wouldn't come from behind. I don't see anything suggesting him protecting team mates. He just got hit from below and above; so did the teammates. He was beat in 3-4 moves...

@underline - I'll need a scan of this.

I know his Dust's speed, but you seem to underestimate/you've forgotten sasuke's own. CS-V2 sasuke with 3 tomoe was able to keep up with 1 tailed naruto. That's ridiculously fast. Even faster than gaara's sand. But, hey, don't take my word for it, just look at these scans of 2 tomoe, non CS sasuke:

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Notice guy said without Weights.

From these scans we can see that sasuke was able to out speed gaara's sand.

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I would like to point out one last thing.

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He needs to activate his Jiton gold dust release. In that space of time, sasuke is already within cutting distance. He has no time for dust tsunami. Big attacks only work if he has time to use them. Sasuke would close the distance within seconds, in base form. He has incredible speed. I think it's even overlooked sometimes.


KAzekage will first have to magenitize those items before they can be used. That is assuming that his jiton works in any way similar to toroi's - As in, he can magnetize metal which comes into contact with his magnetic fields. But, Simply dodging his attacks will prevent that. If sasuke throws a shuriken and see's it gets magnetized, he's instantly figured out that aspect of the jutsu and won't do that anymore.

Sorry, I don't want to get into a mei V kazekage arguement. That'd be a second VS thread, but that dome wouldn't make sense. He's left himself closed off and can no longer see. Even with a 3rd eye, hidden mist could easily block his vision. Anyway, it's just my strong belief that mei is one of the strogest kages right now. Wish I could have seen more of her. Only Oonoki and gaara i could definitively agree beats her among the current kages.

EDIT: This is getting interesting XD

he brought the gold dust from below,and protected the other kages by the side. Page 10 just shows the kages running towards gaara,page 12 shows him blocking the sand hail,the other kages werent hit,

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okay,the first pane shows the raikage being attacked by the hail,then you can also see a stream of gold dust above him,the second shows his dad with his shield,the shield branches left and right,and if you look underneath the branches,you'd see the 2 kages under it being protected.

What did you underline?:|

at the SRA arc,gaara's sand kept up with and caught kimimaro several times,kimi's speed was a 4.5 in base,naruto in kn0 cudnt touch him.kimimaro was obviously faster than naruto or sasuke and he also used CS,plus he mastered his own,which means his power in CS surpassed 1tk naruto. Current gaara's sand speed could block this

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quite easily,sasuke isnt faster than the gold dust.

Activating jiton isnt a problem,it's just like a switch:|

he can simply activate his jiton on sasuke's swords and kunais,toroi needs to touch to magnetize,kazekage just turns his magnet on,and magnetizes it,hence,this is how he can pull out gold dust from the gound. Imagine being attacked vy a sword,shurikens and explosive kunais all at once,and to top it off,gold attacks.

It dosent matter if sasuke know he uses jiton,that wont stop him from controling sasuke's weapons.

True,however i'l just put it this way
match starts,he doeas a gold dudt wave from the start,mei cant stop it,she cant dodge it,cant overpower it,mist wont help,acid wont help,she dies.simple and shortU_U

 

[Strict]

I dunno, I also feel like he could beat Mei.

Take away your avatar and sig and stop being a fanboy .

 

[Unorthodox]

sasuke wins low diff susanoo arrow

 

[nakumaru]

F-F-False. Sasuke is far stronger than Chunnin sasuke, plus he was able to hurt gaara. Gaara has his absolute defence which automatically protects him. As for kazekage being able to use everything gaara can, doubtful, or he wouldn't have been fodderized. The edo's were programmed to fight back. Even if he didn't want to, he would automatically have tried to break out of garaa's jutsu if he could.

Gaara already said that the Kazekage taught him Jutsu. The Kazekage also has already used a Gold Dust third Eye. On top of that, Sand Attacks are only shape manipulation. Which means the Kazekage whole be able to do anything Gaara has, especially in part one.

I never said he was better than current Gaara. (Which also makes me wonder why his Edo did t just mix gold dust Into the sand coffin)

Take away your avatar and sig and stop being a fanboy .

I'm actually not being one xD he can just be disgraces like Mei and Tsunade

I still have him on the lower end of the Kage spectrum, he's just not a fodder like some people think. (That and nobody ever discusses him > I will show you all his worth)