Sharingan>Rinnagan

[Misconception]

Sharingan ftw Rinnagan has shown some nice Abilities but id rather have a sharingan.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

says who?



it's not a dream,it's a fact.

Deva preta annihilate susanoo

gedo decimates kyubi with demonic chakra chains,which can be combined with chakra receivers that would allow nagato to control it via chakra receivers,and those chakra chains also supres the chakra of anyone that it touches it,even madara's susanoo which is pure chakra.if madara decides to stay on the kyubi and use his susanoo to cover them,then he just makes it easier to bind them both.

Madara's cgakra is no where as high or powerful as hachibi,whom nagato absorbed in an instant,so his susanoo is just food for preta,and nagato can use the chakra,to refill his own.

CST easily deflects the shockwave tbb back at him and also wipes out his susanoo as well,it was a village buster in the hands of deva,in the hands of nagato PS is wiped out.

No, it isn't. Nagato hasn't been shown to control the Gedo efficiently enough, so that argument is futile. Really? I'd like to see Nagato pierce Kurama with his chakra receivers when Madara coats Kurama with his PS. It's simply not going to happen. Chou shinra tensei is effortlessly tanked with PS, and just about anything Nagato has is worthless. Preta path will never get the chance to absorb. Madara, against Hashirama has been shown to use 11 TBB's in ONE scan.

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How is Nagato standing a chance against this? Preta path can only absorb one thing at a time, and absorbing ONE TBB alone would take a while, but when Madara throws 11, he stands no chance. Especially since the TBB is further powered by Madara's PS sword, which as we know, can cut mountains as if it were a spongecake. Please do not try use CT as an argument, it is effortlessly destroyed with multiple TBB's and swords slashes. In all honesty, Madara takes this low-mid diff at most...

 

[AlphaScythian]

Sharingan is beter for 1vs1, has some hax moves and genjutsu to which rinnegan has no counter.
For everything else unless ur madara, rinnegan>sharingan.

 

[genii96]

With what? Any Shinra Tensei is tanked and CT is destroyed by Bijuu Dama.


When you can prove Nagato can use the Gedo like Obito did despite not having Uchiha DNA thenyou can give him those Gedo controlling feats in this debate. Scans of Gedo offensively using those chakra chains? Scans of Nagato using Bijuu suppression stakes? Scans that say those chakra chains suppress chakra that isn't Bijuu chakra? This whole paragraph is filled with assumptions with no proof at all. Gedo is a non factor when Nagato uses it.


He isn't getting anywhere near Madara to even attempt to absorb Susanoo so, not happening.



Size=/=Power. Bijuu Dama's destructive power is above CST's any day, if CST's destructive power were any where near the destructive power of Bijuu Dama those people, no one in the blast range would have survived. PS tanks CST.

a CST attack from deva and a CST attack from nagato are far apart in power,susanoo aint tanking CST. Bijuu bomb destroying CT?,how will madara get kyubi to focus a bijuu bomb upwards,when gedo and nagato are right infront of him alongside dozens of summons.

Who says you need uchiha dna to use rinnegan?,if that was so,why did madara bother to choose nagato to wield the rinnegan?,he could have chosen an uchiha cudnt he?. Nagato wielded the rinnegan for 30 years,kakashi isnt an uchiha,but unlocked the ms,something that only 4 uchihas have done. Tobi didnt have enough skill with his rinnegan to use preta when naruto broke his mask,nagato absoerbed the hachibi dna a once so dont say nagato is not as good as either of them,he better,because he has had it for a longer time and trained with it. Nagato could use several paths at once,something that tobi has never shown.

Here,you can clearly see son goku saying that the chains that bind him are made from the outer path of the rinnegan

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here,the stake bound naruto as well,when he tried touching it

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and just like nagato's use of the rinnegan,it is much stronger than pain's version of chakra rods.the same way nagato himself is much more powerful at using his rinnegan techs than pain. You can clearly see that it was compared to pain's own,meaning pain can use it,meaning nagato can use it as well. Which means f madara and hissusanoo are on the kyubi,they get supressed too at the same time

this is gedo,effortlessly restraining son goku and absorbing him

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he did it to the other 5 bijuus at once as well,but i guess you already know that.
,he can easily use those chakra chains to bind kurama and restrain him with gedo.

Nagato mastered the rinnegan completely,he used the outer pat to heal ressurect every last individual that was killed in konoha,while completely drained,he could summon gedo even using deva,and could make chakra rods and chakra receivers via the outer path,yet he cant make chakra chains?,which is an ability granted by the outer path? Simply because he hasnt shown it?,has tobi shown animal path?,has he shown preta?,naraka?,asura?,by feats who is the better user?

The chakra stakes supress the chakra of anything it touches,and with the outer path,nagato can make several like he did with the chakra rods,which will make kyubi useless,and even turn on madara as he can use it to control the bijuu. Gedo mazo can just use it's chakra chains to bind both kyubi and susanoo,i'd like to see how long those 2 will last when their chakra is being constantly suppressed.

Who says he isnt getting closer?,madara stays on kyibi,nagato stays on gedo,gedo and nagato supress kyubi and susanoo,getting close to madara isnt a problem.

Do you even know what destructive power means?,i think you are mistaking it for killing power,because CST from deva had enough destructive power to turn konoha into a crater,madara's use of PS and kyubi as well as hashi's moukton simnply made VOTE,which is bogger?,konoha or VOTE?,ofcourse the CST was from deva,not even nagato. Suigetsu survived a pointblanK TBB,deva killed the entire kakashi's group leaving only kakashi,choji and choza with a simple ST,a weakened deva sent 3 giant toads,out of konoha's borders and broke all their bones with a weakened ST,CST killed shinobi's that were not even at the initial point of impact,so in terms of killing feats ST trumps bijuu dama,unless you talk of juubi. A focused CST from nagato on PS will obliterate it,especially as it is being supressed.

 

[KidGamer65]

a CST attack from deva and a CST attack from nagato are far apart in power,susanoo aint tanking CST. Bijuu bomb destroying CT?,how will madara get kyubi to focus a bijuu bomb upwards,when gedo and nagato are right infront of him alongside dozens of summons.

Do you know how far? Nope. Not like it matters as CST was no where near strong enough to phase Perfect Susanoo so don't expect one from Nagato to be able to destroy it or heavily damage it.

Kyuubi has already shown to be able to fire 12 Bijuu Dama in one scan despite Shinsuusenju's hands coming towards it. It won't be that hard to fire off a Bijuu Dama at the sphere.

Who says you need uchiha dna to use rinnegan?,if that was so,why did madara bother to choose nagato to wield the rinnegan?,he could have chosen an uchiha cudnt he?. Nagato wielded the rinnegan for 30 years,kakashi isnt an uchiha,but unlocked the ms,something that only 4 uchihas have done. Tobi didnt have enough skill with his rinnegan to use preta when naruto broke his mask,nagato absoerbed the hachibi dna a once so dont say nagato is not as good as either of them,he better,because he has had it for a longer time and trained with it. Nagato could use several paths at once,something that tobi has never shown.

Never said you need Uchiha DNA to use the Rinnegan. You need Uchiha DNA to properly control Gedo Mazo. Two different things.

Here,you can clearly see son goku saying that the chains that bind him are made from the outer path of the rinnegan

Obito's stakes were already stated to be a much more powerful binding than Nagato's.

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We've already seen Nagato's binding in the series and it didn't produce chakra chains to bind the opponent when touched as Naruto was able to pull the chakra receiver out of his body with little trouble.

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The chains are exclusive to Obito.

here,the stake bound naruto as well,when he tried touching it
and just like nagato's use of the rinnegan,it is much stronger than pain's version of chakra rods.the same way nagato himself is much more powerful at using his rinnegan techs than pain. You can clearly see that it was compared to pain's own,meaning pain can use it,meaning nagato can use it as well. Which means f madara and hissusanoo are on the kyubi,they get supressed too at the same time

Obito's Outer Path biding produced chains when someone tried to touch the chakra receiver controlling his Pain Rikudou. Nagato's didn't as Naruto was able to pull it out from his body and no chains ever appeared.

@bold: Wrong. Nagato's Outer Path Binding to his Pain Rikudou was compared to Obito's (The Chakra Receivers) Obito's is stronger as stated by Obito himself hence the chains appearing for him and not for Nagato.

Nagato can't use those chains.

this is gedo,effortlessly restraining son goku and absorbing him

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he did it to the other 5 bijuus at once as well,but i guess you already know that.
,he can easily use those chakra chains to bind kurama and restrain him with gedo.

Those chains come from the Gedo and are used to keep Son Goku's chakra inside his Jins Edo body. Those chains were always connected to his body.

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Gedo never once shot those chains out nor has it ever used them offensively in a battle to restrain anything that wasn't already connected to it. Gedo can't use those chakra chains offensively only the Rinnegan user can through the chakra stakes.

Nagato mastered the rinnegan completely,he used the outer pat to heal ressurect every last individual that was killed in konoha,while completely drained,he could summon gedo even using deva,and could make chakra rods and chakra receivers via the outer path,yet he cant make chakra chains?,which is an ability granted by the outer path? Simply because he hasnt shown it?,has tobi shown animal path?,has he shown preta?,naraka?,asura?,by feats who is the better user?

He can't use them because his binding is inferior to Obito's which was already stated in the manga.

The chakra stakes supress the chakra of anything it touches,and with the outer path,nagato can make several like he did with the chakra rods,which will make kyubi useless,and even turn on madara as he can use it to control the bijuu. Gedo mazo can just use it's chakra chains to bind both kyubi and susanoo,i'd like to see how long those 2 will last when their chakra is being constantly suppressed.

Only Obito can use the chakra stakes. Gedo Mazo can't be controlled properly without Senju AND Uchiha DNA/Blood/Power, something Nagato lacks so he can't use the Mazo like Obito did nor can the Mazo even use those chakra stakes offensively like you believe he can.

Who says he isnt getting closer?,madara stays on kyibi,nagato stays on gedo,gedo and nagato supress kyubi and susanoo,getting close to madara isnt a problem.

Gedo can't be controlled by Nagato nor can he use the chakra chains.

Do you even know what destructive power means?,i think you are mistaking it for killing power,because CST from deva had enough destructive power to turn konoha into a crater,madara's use of PS and kyubi as well as hashi's moukton simnply made VOTE,which is bogger?,konoha or VOTE?,ofcourse the CST was from deva,not even nagato. Suigetsu survived a pointblanK TBB,deva killed the entire kakashi's group leaving only kakashi,choji and choza with a simple ST,a weakened deva sent 3 giant toads,out of konoha's borders and broke all their bones with a weakened ST,CST killed shinobi's that were not even at the initial point of impact,so in terms of killing feats ST trumps bijuu dama,unless you talk of juubi. A focused CST from nagato on PS will obliterate it,especially as it is being supressed.

A move that Tsunade survived without even needing Katsuyu to protect her isn't going to destroy PS. Nagato can't even use the chains. You think that since it covers a large area that is strong enough to destroy PS when that is flawed logic. Shinra Tensei is simply a repulsice force.

Nagato deactivated all the other paths and put all his power into that Shinra Tensei. It isn't getting any stronger whether its used through Pain or not.

 

[Klue]

The Sharingan and Rinnegan aren't separate eye techniques. The Rinnegan is the final form of the Sharingan. What is this thread?

The Cursed Chakra Chains are powers of the Gedo (Outer Path), better known as the Seventh Path of Pain (the real Rinnegan user). Obito was able to utilize the Gedo's Chakra Chains while Nagato was not.

Basically, Obito was only able to use the Chakra Chains because he possessed the Rinnegan. Uzumaki Kushina remains a mystery, however.

 

[Strict]

The fact is, that Madara stated that one who will not possess Uchiha and Senju DNA at the same time, will not be able to control the Gedo Mazo properly, whether (s)he has the Rinnegan or not, while those without the Rinnegan will still be able to if possessing both bloodlines. It was also shown, that Obitos outer-path, the Gedo Mazo is a part of, is by far stronger than Nagatos, though latter has a Rinnegan experience of 20-30 years. So as long as Nagato didn't show more feats with Gedo Mazo than turning himself into a cripple for using the soul dragon one time, he cannot be compared with Obito.

 

[KidGamer65]

The Sharingan and Rinnegan aren't separate eye techniques. The Rinnegan is the final form of the Sharingan. What is this thread?

The Cursed Chakra Chains are powers of the Gedo (Outer Path), better known as the Seventh Path of Pain (the real Rinnegan user). Obito was able to utilize the Gedo's Chakra Chains while Nagato was not.

Basically, Obito was only able to use the Chakra Chains because he possessed the Rinnegan. Uzumaki Kushina remains a mystery, however.

Actually they are. That's the only reason Nagato was able to use Rinnegan techs without being able to use EMS techs. Because they are separate Dojutsu.

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

Actually No.

Rinnegan > Sharingan.

Rinnegan can almost counter every jutsu the sharingan posses.

Amaterasu > Shinra tensei.
Susano > Shinra tensei
Genjutsu Dont work if im right.


Rinnegan is a way more destructive doujutsu then sharingan

So in base of power and skill Rinnegan > Sharingan.

This basically. Just says it also

If you get sharingan you get rinnegan......