Sasuke vs kakashi and guy

Brooks · Apr 4, 2013

Bogard said:
Gai uses 6/7gates with his speed and power Sasuke won't be able to keep up. Susanoo will be needed here to protect and attack and Gai could still try to break through with his power like this:

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Kakashi can still protect himself or Gai with Kamui if it's needed. The time Gai occupy Sasuke, Kakashi use a clone to help him, and go underground to reach Sasuke this way without he even notice like this:

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Like you can see he can use this jutsu quickly. Just after avoiding Itachis katon with his doton technic he had time to use a kage bunshin aiming at Itachi in an instant, and with this method he could reach Sasuke even covered by his Susanoo.

Sasuke destroy the clone and see that it was a raiton kage bunshin, so he is paralysed and at that time, the real Kakashi come from underground and finish him up with either a Raikiri or Kamui.

Making these two fighting Sasuke is overkill, unless you hate Sasuke xd

Lol, this kid and his BS posts

Gai is fast, but Sasuke was able to keep with the 4th Railkage(3rd fastest ninja)in his V1 with his 3 tome Sharingan and that's is more than what i can say for Gai's speed....even though he couldn't keep with the 4th Railkage V2 speed...he still showed the reflexes to put his Enton shield on time with the 4th Railkage using his max speed.

Sasuke wins

1.Gai is a Taijutsu user which is a big disadvantage when fighting Sasuke for the fact he has Enton shield to protect...Sasuke can use the Enton both for defense and offense....if Gai tries to take on Sasuke in hand to hand combat then he simple get burn into a inferno living hell.

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When ever Gai tries to attack....Sasuke would simply put of the Enton Shield to protect himself and if Gai is as stupid as A then he won't attack.

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^The result when you use Taijutsu against Sasuke.

2.people claim Hirudora can destroy Susanoo, but what people seem to forget is Hirudora on took on Madara's Incomplete Susanoo which inferior to Sasuke's Complete and Final Susanoo.....Sasuke's Final Susanoo easy tanks Gai's strongest move "Hirudora".

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^The best Hirudora can do was take on Incomplete Susanoo

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^Which is far inferior to this Susanoo

C said the Railkage using his full speed needed Shunshin No Jutsu just so he can dodge Amaterasu and the Railkage is the third fastest Shinobi to ever live only next to Minato and BM Naruto while Gai's speed is still inferior to the Railkage's speed.

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The main reason why Gai will lose is because Gai looks down when facing a Sharingan user and while that's a good advantage it can also be his downfall of the match which means if Gai doesn't look at Sasuke then his chance of dodging Amaterasu is 0% and if Gai looks at his opponent then Sasuke uses Genjutsu on him and then it's all over for them.

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Sorry, but Gai is no match for Sasuke in any way.

Wrong

It was stated in the Manga the EMS can see Clones.....Sasuke will notice it's a Clone thanks to his EMS and use Chidori Nagashi throw the ground where Kakashi will receive damage from the Chidori Nagashi and since he's under the ground where is Earth and Earth is inferior to Lighting...he will receive double the damage.

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Kakashi only technique here is Kamui and he can use it 5 times at best and all Sasuke has to do is use 6 or 7 Susanoo arrows where Kakashi will have no choice, but to use his Kamui to save himself.

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Sasuke wins this with mid diff

BlackFlame44 · Apr 4, 2013

FTG V2 said:
Lol, this kid and his BS posts

Gai is fast, but Sasuke was able to keep with the 4th Railkage(3rd fastest ninja)in his V1 with his 3 tome Sharingan and that's is more than what i can say for Gai's speed....even though he couldn't keep with the 4th Railkage V2 speed...he still showed the reflexes to put his Enton shield on time with the 4th Railkage using his max speed.

Sasuke wins

1.Gai is a Taijutsu user which is a big disadvantage when fighting Sasuke for the fact he has Enton shield to protect...Sasuke can use the Enton both for defense and offense....if Gai tries to take on Sasuke in hand to hand combat then he simple get burn into a inferno living hell.

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When ever Gai tries to attack....Sasuke would simply put of the Enton Shield to protect himself and if Gai is as stupid as A then he won't attack.

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^The result when you use Taijutsu against Sasuke.

2.people claim Hirudora can destroy Susanoo, but what people seem to forget is Hirudora on took on Madara's Incomplete Susanoo which inferior to Sasuke's Complete and Final Susanoo.....Sasuke's Final Susanoo easy tanks Gai's strongest move "Hirudora".

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^The best Hirudora can do was take on Incomplete Susanoo

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^Which is far inferior to this Susanoo

C said the Railkage using his full speed needed Shunshin No Jutsu just so he can dodge Amaterasu and the Railkage is the third fastest Shinobi to ever live only next to Minato and BM Naruto while Gai's speed is still inferior to the Railkage's speed.

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The main reason why Gai will lose is because Gai looks down when facing a Sharingan user and while that's a good advantage it can also be his downfall of the match which means if Gai doesn't look at Sasuke then his chance of dodging Amaterasu is 0% and if Gai looks at his opponent then Sasuke uses Genjutsu on him and then it's all over for them.

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Sorry, but Gai is no match for Sasuke in any way.

Wrong

It was stated in the Manga the EMS can see Clones.....Sasuke will notice it's a Clone thanks to his EMS and use Chidori Nagashi throw the ground where Kakashi will receive damage from the Chidori Nagashi and since he's under the ground where is Earth and Earth is inferior to Lighting...he will receive double the damage.

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Kakashi only technique here is Kamui and he can use it 5 times at best and all Sasuke has to do is use 6 or 7 Susanoo arrows where Kakashi will have no choice, but to use his Kamui to save himself.

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Sasuke wins this with mid diff

Sasuke was not able to keep up that's why he put amaterasu on his susanoo

Bogard · Apr 4, 2013

FTG V2 said:
Lol, this kid and his BS posts

Gai is fast, but Sasuke was able to keep with the 4th Railkage(3rd fastest ninja)in his V1 with his 3 tome Sharingan and that's is more than what i can say for Gai's speed....even though he couldn't keep with the 4th Railkage V2 speed...he still showed the reflexes to put his Enton shield on time with the 4th Railkage using his max speed.

Sasuke wins

1.Gai is a Taijutsu user which is a big disadvantage when fighting Sasuke for the fact he has Enton shield to protect...Sasuke can use the Enton both for defense and offense....if Gai tries to take on Sasuke in hand to hand combat then he simple get burn into a inferno living hell.

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When ever Gai tries to attack....Sasuke would simply put of the Enton Shield to protect himself and if Gai is as stupid as A then he won't attack.

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^The result when you use Taijutsu against Sasuke.

2.people claim Hirudora can destroy Susanoo, but what people seem to forget is Hirudora on took on Madara's Incomplete Susanoo which inferior to Sasuke's Complete and Final Susanoo.....Sasuke's Final Susanoo easy tanks Gai's strongest move "Hirudora".

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^The best Hirudora can do was take on Incomplete Susanoo

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^Which is far inferior to this Susanoo

C said the Railkage using his full speed needed Shunshin No Jutsu just so he can dodge Amaterasu and the Railkage is the third fastest Shinobi to ever live only next to Minato and BM Naruto while Gai's speed is still inferior to the Railkage's speed.

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The main reason why Gai will lose is because Gai looks down when facing a Sharingan user and while that's a good advantage it can also be his downfall of the match which means if Gai doesn't look at Sasuke then his chance of dodging Amaterasu is 0% and if Gai looks at his opponent then Sasuke uses Genjutsu on him and then it's all over for them.

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Sorry, but Gai is no match for Sasuke in any way.

Wrong

It was stated in the Manga the EMS can see Clones.....Sasuke will notice it's a Clone thanks to his EMS and use Chidori Nagashi throw the ground where Kakashi will receive damage from the Chidori Nagashi and since he's under the ground where is Earth and Earth is inferior to Lighting...he will receive double the damage.

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Kakashi only technique here is Kamui and he can use it 5 times at best and all Sasuke has to do is use 6 or 7 Susanoo arrows where Kakashi will have no choice, but to use his Kamui to save himself.

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Sasuke wins this with mid diff

Lol this kid and his fanboyism. I love how i see you saying that Sasuke would be the only one attacking here with Susanoo arrows and that Kakashi will just stupidely be there trying to defend himself when he can easily use kamui to warp Sasuke's head off, especially when in this case he isn't only fighting against a one-shot technique but also against another guy whose speed can't be handle by him, only defended against with Susanoo.

Also, Gai may be a taijutsu user, but he has mid-long range taijutsu attacks like Hirudora or Morning peacock. In the contrary of A then, he can use them and completely fodderise Sasuke's Susanoo by mid-long range without being forced to lose an arm like stupid A in close combat. Sasuke's Susanoo may be more complete than the one an exhausted Gai destroyed, but Madara's incomplete Susanoo is still larger than Sasuke's and the Hirudora Gai used at that moment was far weaker than the one he used against Kisame simply because he was already exhausted at that moment after fighting 2days long

Kakashi and Gai take this low-mid diff

shelke · Apr 4, 2013

Sasuke takes this mid difference most. How is Gai countering Amaterasu or EMS Genutsu? The fanboyism and rubbish reasoning is off the charts here. The dude cannot sense anything. If he looks at the eyes, he is taken out with Genjutsu. If he looks at Sasuke's feet, a single Amaterasu kills him there and then. Gai is not a sensor, so he isn't sensing anything, nor is he reacting to anything. Dear Lord, the reasoning, Oh god the reasoning on this base.

After Minato's FTG and KCM Naruto's speed, V2 Raikage is the fastest individual in the entire manga. Who incidentally, not only charged his Raiton Armour to the max, was already aware of MS's abilities, but used body flicker as well to counter a single Amaterasu flame. Do tell how Gai evades it when he looks at Sasuke's toes. Kakashi has no speed feats to evade Magatama. Even if he does use Kamui to suck in the flames, then MS's fatigue that immediately follows gets him killed.

His clones are seen through with EMS that is capable of perceiving Mokuton clones. He isn't attacking from under Sasuke's feet. What kind of rubbish is this? Sharingan is capable of seeing any object anywhere, and gives colour to it whether it his behind a wall or underground as shown during Kabuto and Deidara fight. Kakashi can simply use Kamui over and over again on Susano'o whilst EMS Sasuke will simply throw a barrage of Magatama at him and he is done for, as he cannot suck in all projectiles in the first place, nor can he react to Amaterasu.

Mid Difference at max. Gai is not even a contender here. LOL @ this base.

Brooks · Apr 4, 2013

Bogard said:
Lol this kid and his fanboyism. I love how i see you saying that Sasuke would be the only one attacking here with Susanoo arrows and that Kakashi will just stupidely be there trying to defend himself when he can easily use kamui to warp Sasuke's head off, especially when in this case he isn't only fighting against a one-shot technique but also against another guy whose speed can't be handle by him, only defended against with Susanoo.

Also, Gai may be a taijutsu user, but he has mid-long range taijutsu attacks like Hirudora or Morning peacock. In the contrary of A then, he can use them and completely fodderise Sasuke's Susanoo by mid-long range without being forced to lose an arm like stupid A in close combat. Sasuke's Susanoo may be more complete than the one an exhausted Gai destroyed, but Madara's incomplete Susanoo is still larger than Sasuke's and the Hirudora Gai used at that moment was far weaker than the one he used against Kisame simply because he was already exhausted at that moment after fighting 2days long

Kakashi and Gai take this low-mid diff

Fanboyism? lol, very sad Uchiha hater....you made a thread about Minato beating the 5 Kages and you want to call me a fanboy? truly, ignorance at its best

Why would Sasuke stand there let him get one-shot when in fact Sasuke can start of with Amaterasu right from the start the Amaterasu if far fasters than Susanooo? Amaterasu>>>>>>Susanoo Arrow in speed

Whose speed can be handle by him? lol, excuse? Sasuke has shown both the speed and the reflex to keep with the 4th who's a thousand times faster than Gai's speed.....what's Hirudora going to do against Final Susanoo? when Hirudora at its best can only go up against Incomplete Susanoo.....doesn't matter if Madara's Incomplete Susanoo is bigger than Sasuke's Susanoo, but the fact is....its defense is far inferior to Sasuke's Final Susanoo.....wrong, Morning peacock is close range attack....Gai first has to come close to you and hit and hit even faster where he creates Morning peacock so let's not make shit up and Morning Peacock can even do anything against Complete Susanoo let alone Final Susanoo.

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Brooks · Apr 4, 2013

BlackFlame44 said:
Sasuke was not able to keep up that's why he put amaterasu on his susanoo

I said Sasuke had the reflexes to put on his Enton Shield on time while the the 4th Railkage was going at his max speed and i never said anything about Sasuke keeping with the 4th Railkage's V2 in speed wise....God, the low intelligence in this base is beyond me.

Fecal Matter · Apr 4, 2013

Sasuke takes this mid diff.Kakashi's clones are useless since EMS can tell which clone is real.Gai cannot avoid Amaterasu, the fact that Gai would be looking at Sasuke's feet makes things a lot easier.The only thing kakashi has is Kamui which can be intercepted by a Susanoo arrow.

shelke · Apr 4, 2013

Fanboyism? lol, very sad Uchiha hater....you made a thread about Minato beating the 5 Kages and you want to call me a fanboy? truly, ignorance at its best

Why would Sasuke stand there let him get one-shot when in fact Sasuke can start of with Amaterasu right from the start the Amaterasu if far fasters than Susanooo? Amaterasu>>>>>>Susanoo Arrow in speed

Dearl ol Bogard. He thinks FTG Kunais will get through this

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. I mean, a randomly thrown Kunai with a paper on them -

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- is getting through this is this guy's logic which is more nonsensical rubbish than Kiba's filler accomplishments.

Don't take him seriously, just enjoy the show. You cannot expect any form or facet of common sense or manga logic from him. The irony of his 'hater and fanboyism' comments is always so painfully paradoxical.

Bogard · Apr 4, 2013

FTG V2 said:
Fanboyism? lol, very sad Uchiha hater....you made a thread about Minato beating the 5 Kages and you want to call me a fanboy? truly, ignorance at its best

Only a stupid guy like you would consider that i was even serious with that thread

Why would Sasuke stand there let him get one-shot when in fact Sasuke can start of with Amaterasu right from the start the Amaterasu if far fasters than Susanooo? Amaterasu>>>>>>Susanoo Arrow in speed

Kakashi can start with Kamui. Kamui >>>>Amaterasu in speed

Whose speed can be handle by him? lol, excuse? Sasuke has shown both the speed and the reflex to keep with the 4th who's a thousand times faster than Gai's speed

Sasuke never handled A's speed. He handled a direct hit coming from V1 A, that's completely different. Obito could handle Naruto's speed who is thousand times faster than V1 A, yet he had difficulties to keep up with base Gai. His taijutsu is simply unpredictable for a sharingan user exactly like Killer-Bee's was against Sasuke and we all know how it ended. Add Gates in it, that gives him a speed around V2 A, and Sasuke gets fodderised .....

what's Hirudora going to do against Final Susanoo? when Hirudora at its best can only go up against Incomplete Susanoo.....doesn't matter if Madara's Incomplete Susanoo is bigger than Sasuke's Susanoo, but the fact is....its defense is far inferior to Sasuke's Final Susanoo

The fact is that Madara's Susanoo has been portrayed to be stronger than Sasuke's even the incomplet version from the moment that his ribcage can be broke up by a basic punch when even Chou Odama rasengan couldn't scratch Madara's. You are comparing Sasuke's susanoo to Madara's when it's nowhere near it's level

wrong, Morning peacock is close range attack....

You have to re-read the fight against Kisame where he one-shoted thousand sharks which were away from him or counter even a tailed beast level attack which was spreading all over the are. It's a short-mid range attack. The flames fire over a great area.

Brooks · Apr 4, 2013

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Only a stupid guy like you would consider that i was even serious with that thread

Kakashi can start with Kamui. Kamui >>>>Amaterasu in speed

Sasuke never handled A's speed. He handled a direct hit coming from V1 A, that's completely different. Obito could handle Naruto's speed who is thousand times faster than V1 A, yet he had difficulties to keep up with base Gai. His taijutsu is simply unpredictable for a sharingan user exactly like Killer-Bee's was against Sasuke and we all know how it ended. Add Gates in it, that gives him a speed around V2 A, and Sasuke gets fodderised .....

The fact is that Madara's Susanoo has been portrayed to be stronger than Sasuke's even the incomplet version from the moment that his ribcage can be broke up by a basic punch when even Chou Odama rasengan couldn't scratch Madara's. You are comparing Sasuke's susanoo to Madara's when it's nowhere near it's level

You have to re-read the fight against Kisame where he one-shoted thousand sharks which were away from him or counter even a tailed beast level attack which was spreading all over the are. It's a short-mid range attack. The flames fire over a great area.

Stupid? your gnorance was something, but your stupidty is just too much....you made a thread, but you want to call me stupid for taking you serious? try not to act cool when someone caughts you and your bullshit of a thread.

1.By that logic. you're also saying Naruto is not faster than A because he too only dodged A's attack in direct hit like Sasuke...Naruto couldn't keep with A's speed from all direction which goes to show how mcuh your logic sucks.

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2.Wrong, Sasuke had no diffcluty in keeping with Killer Bee in Taijutsu...what proved to be probelm for Sasuke was looking all 7 Blades at the same time with his Sharingan and Sasuke showed he can hold his own for a moment against all 7 blades from all direction....Sasuke easliy dodged Killer Bee in Taijutsu in his V1 who was much faster than his base mode and on top of that....Sasuke wasn't fully healed against his fight with Itachi which also would give you a hard time in moving your body faster.

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So, what of.....if Madara's Ribcage Susanoo is stronger than Sasuke's Ribcage Susanoo or his Incomplete Susanoo being stronger than Sasuke's Incomplete Susanoo? the fact is...Madara's Incomplete Susanoo is far inferior to do to levels.....Madara's Susanoo can be can be good all it wants to be, but the fact is his Incomplete Susanoo is nothing compare to Sasuke new EMS Final Susanoo and that's a fact.....Sasuke's Final Susanoo>>>>Madara's Incomplete Susanoo

Doesn't matter if they are mid or close rang....Gai's strongest attack won't do anything against Final Susanoo so lets leave at that.....you can never prove Gai can do anything against Final Susanoo.

genii96 · Apr 5, 2013

How can peopel say sasuke beats them both?,and how can people have the nerve to call it a mid diff battle for sasuke:|,seriously?

Izuna Kakashi Senju · Apr 5, 2013

Kakashi and Gai mid diff, some people are severely underrating the duo.

elsepa · Apr 5, 2013

Kakashi and Gai mid diff , fanboys will always underrate them tho.

EZQ · Apr 5, 2013

WTF? Sensei duo low- med diff, this is unfair for sasuke

Kakashi is med- high kage level, with the most op jutsu in the NV, and he CAN WARP A WHOLE SUSANOO (i've already proved it)

Gai is med kage level, with HIRUDORA, wich is stronger than NOT PERFECT SUSANOO (it destroyed madara's not perfect susanoo)

NagazuDead · Apr 5, 2013

Kakashi and Guy win ofcourse... high diff.
Guy 2 fast for the Susanno shot + Hirudora... or no -.- this is too much for Sasuke dude, he is not so powerful like Madara and Obito -.-

BlackFlame44 · Apr 5, 2013

Guy knows not to look at sausukes eyes has the speed to dodge amaterasu and the strength to break susanoo with hirudora

shelke · Apr 5, 2013

^ And how is he dodging Amaterasu? Don't tell me this base believes he is some kind of Senor? Then I facepalm at this Base's logic. He's taken out regardless of the fact whether he looks at Sasuke's eyes or not.

elsepa · Apr 5, 2013

shelke said:
^ And how is he dodging Amaterasu? Don't tell me this base believes he is some kind of Senor? Then I facepalm at this Base's logic. He's taken out regardless of the fact whether he looks at Sasuke's eyes or not.

Raikage dodged it with ease , so can Gai in my opinion.

shelke · Apr 5, 2013

^ You need to reread the manga. He used two techniques to dodge it; V2 Armour and Body Flicker. Please show me a manga page where it is even remotely implied that Gai is anywhere near this level of speed. Secondly, Raikage was already prepared. Thirdly, Sasuke never used genjutsu at that point, if he had, the fight would have been over. Now how is he dodging without looking at the eyes?

Raikage looked at the eyes, saw the blood and immediately used a combination of two techniques to barely step aside. As I mentioned, hearsay and speculation until actually proven. Even the 8 gates - which Gai has never reached - are said to take him higher than a single Kage. At what stats? Unknown factor. He is taken out regardless of where he looks.

fastrthnwind · Apr 5, 2013

shelke said:
^ You need to reread the manga. He used two techniques to dodge it; V2 Armour and Body Flicker. Please show me a manga page where it is even remotely implied that Gai is anywhere near this level of speed. Secondly, Raikage was already prepared. Thirdly, Sasuke never used genjutsu at that point, if he had, the fight would have been over. Now how is he dodging without looking at the eyes?

Raikage looked at the eyes, saw the blood and immediately used a combination of two techniques to barely step aside. As I mentioned, hearsay and speculation until actually proven. Even the 8 gates - which Gai has never reached - are said to take him higher than a single Kage. At what stats? Unknown factor. He is taken out regardless of where he looks.

I LOVE how you TOTALLY underrate the 8 gates

Do you realize how fast Lee was in the Chuunin exams in the 4th gate?

Imagine Guy doing that, but since at that time Lee had a 4 in speed and Guy has a 5, he will be much faster.

Now multiply that time the amount of power is increased in the 5th, 6th, and 7th gates, which is A LOT(each gate opened builds upon the previous ones so it exponentially increases their speed). At that point, Guy is either on the raikages level or surpassed it.

Also, you say he barely dodged it? how can you tell for sure? That right there is pure speculation. He dodged it, we cant tell if he dodged it barely or not, but all we know is that he can actually avoid amaterasu at close range.

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