uchiha>senju??? somebody answer plz

[Superior]

Madara already solo'd hashirama in the last battle,
Only the cheap shot killed him

I know its not wise for a shinobi to let his guard down, but hashirama was his friend, and they talked at the end.

My friend, define solo'd. It was effectively Madara and Kurama versus Hashirama. If Hashirama had brought Tobirama with him, it still would'nt have been a fair fight, as Kurama at full power is stronger than Tobirama.

Now about that "cheap shot," deceit and stealth (which is what clones are all about) are a ninja's most useful and fundamental skills. Just because tactics as simple as a clone substitution have been used less frequently doesn't mean it should be underestimsted or undermined. Madara fell for it and let his guard down, which was the point of using the tactic. That was his fatal mistake.
Hashirama won fair and square.

 

[first sage hokage]

sombody find ch. were itachi explain Izanami

 

[first sage hokage]

nine tails is a summoning

My friend, define solo'd. It was effectively Madara and Kurama versus Hashirama. If Hashirama had brought Tobirama with him, it still would'nt have been a fair fight, as Kurama at full power is stronger than Tobirama.

Now about that "cheap shot," deceit and stealth (which is what clones are all about) are a ninja's most useful and fundamental skills. Just because tactics as simple as a clone substitution have been used less frequently doesn't mean it should he underestimsted or undermined.
Hashirama won fair and square.

 

[Stark]

He didn't want to risk his eye sight, plus he had goals for the future. Uchiha > Senju.

 

[Superior]

nine tails is a summoning

A summoning is some kind of animal or beast that a shinobi makes a contract with, thus the summoning willingly pledges to help the shinobi when called upon. Kurama is not a summoning. He is a tailed beast that Madara took control of by force through the use of his sharingan. See the difference in the two?

 

[lordmadarauchiha]

Maybe because either A) No senju DNA B)He didn't know those techs or C)He didn't want sacrifice his sharingan forever.

I would go with b and c

 

[Lord Naruto San]

This dude is pwning you guys with the debate Hashi won fair and square senju WON the battle

 

[ajpn920]

ok, now why didnt madara use Izanami???, that move alone would've killed hashirama, now im a senju fanboy all day but, that move would've put hashi into a sleep like state so he could jus walk up to him and kill him?, that move was made long before madara, a known move, like itachi said, it was made to counter izangi, but that move could that out any enemy.

what do you guys think??

with izangi and Izanami you dont need to look the enemy in the eye.

Madara can't use Izanagi for the reason that he doesn't have a senju's DNA during that fight. Izanami? I'ts not an easy to use tech. Remember that the caster needs to create an INFINITE LOOP. Creating a loop alone is hard to do since you won't know if you're still alive during a certain attack. I think Itachi can't use Izanami if not being an Edo. We saw how many times Kabuto killed him..

By the way, by creating a loop, the caster needs to memorize the attack and replicate. I doubt Madara will have an easy time memorizing an attack when someone is constantly attacking him. He will then choose to defend rather than to memorize Hashi's attack. Lastly, I think Izanami is only applicable to those who can't accept reality.