(DrProof)The Rinnegan Revelation; Hashi/Madara → Sage/Jūbi

[DrProof]

wish u may surpass derp obito

He has surpassed me.

Another great thread good job DrProof

Thanks bro.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Kurama said it himself: 'that thing is nothing but evil.'

If he was part of the whole, he should know. If anything, there's more concrete proof to support that he is a mindless demon than otherwise.

Also prone to happen in the manga; exaggeration. Remember when Hiruzen was the 'god of shinobi'? And then it was Hashirama?

No character in this series can be trusted when they so casually toss around words such as 'god' so often. Them describing the juubi is so different. The word 'god' has never been literal in the manga.

Give me an example of a character in the series that had done something without purpose? none, even Kurama's attack on Konoha was initially displayed as a mindless feral creature's attack on a village, but hundreds of chapters later, we find out that a masked man was controlling the said creature with his doujutsu, or what about Orochimaru, even he was shown to have a motive/purpose on attacking Konoha, that he did not attack Konoha on a whim like he said, which Sasuke correctly deduced. The Juubi will be shown to have a reason for attacking humanity, it is a logical certainty.

 

[theRPGdude]

Now the jubbi itself is only stated to have no feelings and ideals. Not mindless. Although it needs to be controled due to it's destructive nature. That's why Obito and Madara have plug connected to the juubi?

Why is it hard to control at least one tailed beast. They are bot meant to be tools of war. Would you want to be forced into the stomach of the number one hyper active knuckle head ninja?

I rest my case.

 

[Putokage]

I enjoyed the read.

Props where props is due sir. GJ

so the Juubi was a sentient being after all. I had always believed it lacked the capacity and was just a bringer of doom; by way of rampant ravaging of the land.

It just decided to go Old Testament.

Interesting.

 

[Germanicus]

Give me an example of a character in the series that had done something without purpose? none, even Kurama's attack on Konoha was initially displayed as a mindless feral creature's attack on a village, but hundreds of chapters later, we find out that a masked man was controlling the said creature with his doujutsu, or what about Orochimaru, even he was shown to have a motive/purpose on attacking Konoha, that he did not attack Konoha on a whim like he said, which Sasuke correctly deduced. The Juubi will be shown to have a reason for attacking humanity, it is a logical certainty.

We'll see. I don't believe so, but I guess that's just me.

 

[theRPGdude]

Give me an example of a character in the series that had done something without purpose? none, even Kurama's attack on Konoha was initially displayed as a mindless feral creature's attack on a village, but hundreds of chapters later, we find out that a masked man was controlling the said creature with his doujutsu, or what about Orochimaru, even he was shown to have a motive/purpose on attacking Konoha, that he did not attack Konoha on a whim like he said, which Sasuke correctly deduced. The Juubi will be shown to have a reason for attacking humanity, it is a logical certainty.

Judging by the era of war that proceeded with each and every clan. And how others feared the entity of the Juubi that once the Sage Of Six Paths controled the power that can't be measured. It's clear why he was named the God.

Juubi is like any animal. Relying on instinct and it's only nature.

 

[DrProof]

I enjoyed the read.

Props where props is due sir. GJ

so the Juubi was a sentient being after all. I had always believed it lacked the capacity and was just a bringer of doom; by way of rampant ravaging of the land.

It just decided to go Old Testament.

Interesting.

Thanks bro.

And I mean the Jubi is indeed a corrupted being, full of evil. However "Evil" is a feeling. Thus the Jubi isn't just a mindless God causing destruction.

Due to my theory The Jubi has a conclusion for peace, in which he wants to eliminate the sins of the world; Humans.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I even made a hypothesis regarding the series'es ending:

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[konohayouknowha]

Totally agree

 

[Frikid]

A very good theory,
but i don't think nagato deciphered the naka shrine because he need to have sharingan to open that 3t-stone .

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[DrProof]

A very good theory,
but i don't think nagato deciphered the naka shrine because he need to have sharingan to open that 3t-stone .

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I believe the Rinnegan could possibly open the Shrine. The Rinnegan after all is an evolved Sharingan.

 

[Frikid]

I believe the Rinnegan could possibly open the Shrine. The Rinnegan after all is an evolved Sharingan.

Rinnegan is evolved from sharingan, yet it can't use all the doujutsu such as amaterasu/tsukiyomi/susano.
If we would have been talking about madara i would have agreed because he can use sharingan doujutsu as well, but this doesn't seem to be the case for nagato.
Its possible that obito helped him though .

 

[DrProof]

Rinnegan is evolved from sharingan, yet it can't use all the doujutsu such as amaterasu/tsukiyomi/susano.
If we would have been talking about madara i would have agreed because he can use sharingan doujutsu as well, but this doesn't seem to be the case for nagato.
Its possible that obito helped him though .

Plausible.

 

[kimeramaximus04]

Good eye for detail.
Everyone has been complaining about these hashirama and madara flashbacks but you did an impeccable job showing just how important this info is to the development of the story itself. Its very likely that after having attempted and failed to achieve peace via the sage path, a corrupted interpretation of the naka tablet would be born.

 

[DrProof]

Good eye for detail.
Everyone has been complaining about these hashirama and madara flashbacks but you did an impeccable job showing just how important this info is to the development of the story itself. Its very likely that after having attempted and failed to achieve peace via the sage path, a corrupted interpretation of the naka tablet would be born.

I couldn't agree more on the second part.

OT: Thanks bro.

 

[wargear]

Excellent informative theory! No less than I've come to expect from the only resident savant with a balanced viewpoint!

 

[DrProof]

Excellent informative theory! No less than I've come to expect from the only resident savant with a balanced viewpoint!

That means a lot thanks.

 

[Lightbringer]

Gods tend to have a consciousness beyond human understanding which is why the juubi maybe considered evil and lacking intelligence

 

[DrProof]

Gods tend to have a consciousness beyond human understanding which is why the juubi maybe considered evil and lacking intelligence

Repped. Didn't think of that.

 

[Sherlock.]

Nice Theory Bro.... I have one question Though....
You said Nagato Deciphered the entire message on The Uchiha Tablet.... But in the Invasion of Pain Arc.... Pain didn't knew the password to enter the village.... So if he had already deciphered what was written on the Tablet.... Nagato would have been exposed the first time itself while trying to sneak in....