Madara was stronger than Hashirama after all.

[Cray]

Damn. I'm impressed how Madara easily tricked that fool Hashirama.

Genjutsu beats the strongest senju with realative ease. Canon.

 

[lordmadarauchiha]

When did he use a genjutsu

 

[Reflection]

Foddera used a genjutsu to escape being maimed by Hashirama. I don't see how that makes him stronger. That is, if he used a genjutsu.

 

[Cray]

When did he use a genjutsu

It will be revealed in the future.

 

[NOemotions]

prepare to cry madara fans... hashi is superior to him... now and was then and anytime..

 

[TheSages456]

It will be revealed in the future.

so you basically just said madara>hashirama with no proof and you only stated this due to fanboyism? ok then.

 

[lordmadarauchiha]

It will be revealed in the future.

So all this is just speculation

 

[Avonomemi]

Finally my vote count

 

[Cray]

so you basically just said madara>hashirama with no proof and you only stated this due to fanboyism? ok then.

Do you know what common sense is? It's obvious that Madara spared Hashirama's sorry ass.

 

[Tormound]

Do you know what common sense is? It's obvious that Madara spared Hashirama's sorry ass.

And that's why he lost all those fights before... And needed Kurama to even try to beat Hashirama...

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

The 1st would have lost if he hadn't used a clone because he was totally out matched but just like Naruto vs Neji, plot no jutsu wins for the 1st, Madara is clearly stonger i mean nothing about the Senju seems to put them on the level with Uchiha, ok wow they have body strength it isn't something you can see like sharingan so its plot no jutsu.

Madara would have won that sword clash.

 

[Cray]

And that's why he lost all those fights before... And needed Kurama to even try to beat Hashirama...

Are you stupid? The first time when Madara fought Hashirama the whole Senju clan jumped on him like cowards. Second time at vote Madara spared Hashirama.

 

[Wood Release]

Whether he used a genjutsu or not is irrelevent at this point - Hashirama is still more powerful than Madara considering Madara needed Kurama to even fight on equal footing and how Hashirama beat him in each and every battle they fought.

 

[Cray]

Re: Madara was stronger than Hashirama after all.
Whether he used a genjutsu or not is irrelevent at this point - Hashirama is still more powerful than Madara considering Madara needed Kurama to even fight on equal footing and how Hashirama beat him in each and every battle they fought.

Kurama did nothing. Madara's Perfect Sussano would've obliterated the Budda.

 

[Percy Jackson]

Madara was strong, but not stronger then hashirama. The one that madara defeat was just a wood clone..

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Hashirama was under the impression Madara was dead, how does that make Madara stronger?

 

[KidGamer65]

Kurama did nothing. Madara's Perfect Sussano would've obliterated the Budda.

Are you joking? Without those Continuous TBB, Susanoo would have been smashed by Shinsuusenju without even losing most of its hands. With the TBBs he was able to blow off all its hands, but still got his Susanoo broken and Kyuubi was restrained by Shinsuusenju while Hashirama using Wood God suppressed it.

 

[Cray]

Hashirama was under the impression Madara was dead, how does that make Madara stronger?

Madara made Hashirama believe that he was dead. But in the end Madara outsmarted him which makes him stronger than Hashi
.

 

[Cray]

Are you joking? Without those Continuous TBB, Susanoo would have been smashed by Shinsuusenju without even losing most of its hands. With the TBBs he was able to blow off all its hands, but still got his Susanoo broken and Kyuubi was restrained by Shinsuusenju while Hashirama using Wood God suppressed it.

The same result would've have been achieved with Sussano mega slashes. One slash can obliterate the range of mountains. His Perfect Sussano is literally invincible.

Plus after Kurama was subdued Madara somehow neutralized Budda which means that Madara was superior to Hashirama.

 

[KidGamer65]

The same result would've have been achieved with Sussano mega slashes. One slash can obliterate the range of mountains. His Perfect Sussano is literally invincible.

Plus after Kurama was subdued Madara somehow neutralized Budda which means that Madara was superior to Hashirama.

No. Continous TBB+PS Slash>>PS Slash. Not to mention PS can't swing its sword faster than Kyuubi PS could fire off those Bijuu Dama and I'd like to see it swing its swords in the middle of this.

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It obviously wouldn't have been the same result. Shinsuusenju would have more hands left and Susanoo would still be destroyed.

@bold: That's why Hashirama smashed it with Shinsuusenju.