Naruto vs EMS Madara ( NO KYUBI , NO RINNEGAN)

[beatle96]

Hi everybody , well i think Naruto BM maybe has a chance against Madara EMS without Rinnegan or Kyubi

Hashirama would crush Madara in five minutes whitout the kyubi.

What do you thinks guys¿?

Thanks for your opinions

 

[Xlad]

Naruto only has a 25-30% against Madara tbh. Madara wins this one, low to mid-dif.

 

[TheSages456]

madara is the obvious winner. madaras susano tanked 11 or 12 bijudamas and it was only destroyed when hashirama attacked it with his buddha. naruto gets stomped.

 

[adeshina365]

Naruto simply can't handle EMS Madara.

 

[KidGamer65]

Naturally Madara wins. PS is too much for Naruto to handle.

 

[Naruto9001]

Naruto is so underrated on this base. Naruto stomps HARD!

 

[Unorthodox]

madara wins high diff

 

[KidGamer65]

Naruto is so underrated on this base. Naruto stomps HARD!

Far from it.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

If madara can survive 8 minutes of BM, he wins. Reminer: Susanoo tanked several TBB's

 

[Ryuujinn]

Madara takes this mid off and naruto is not underated

 

[Midday]

More people need to start adding a few sentances why they think X would win instead of "X takes Y, z difficulty" it doesn't add much to the thread.

Naruto's able to maintain Bm for at least 8 mins, the question is how long can Madara maintain PS. Also Madara's shown nothing to counter Naruto's bursts of body flicker, he already got split in two by Lee and couldn't do anything let alone against Naruto who can have at least 4 bm clones about with all his original abilites. Also just because Madara's susanoo tanked one average tbb doesn't mean he can tank the super bijuudama Naruto can use or a barrage of them. Naruto's already been shown to be able to tank the Juubi's tbb which exceeds the power of perfect susanoo by a lot.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Hi everybody , well i think Naruto BM maybe has a chance against Madara EMS without Rinnegan or Kyubi

Hashirama would crush Madara in five minutes whitout the kyubi.

What do you thinks guys¿?

Thanks for your opinions

Madara roflstomps. Naruto has 8 mins to beat a guy who can fight for 24hr

 

[AGoodBoy]

More people need to start adding a few sentances why they think X would win instead of "X takes Y, z difficulty" it doesn't add much to the thread.

Naruto's able to maintain Bm for at least 8 mins the question is how long can Madara maintain PS. Also Madara's shown nothing to counter Naruto's bursts of body flicker, he already got split in two by Lee and couldn't do anything let alone against Naruto who can have at least 4 bm clones about with all his original abilites. Also just because Madara's susanoo tanked one average susanoo doesn't mean he can tank the super bijuudama Naruto can use or a barrage of them. Naruto's already been shown to be able to tank the Juubi's tbb which exceeds the power of perfect susanoo by a lot.

How does naruto survive PS slash? All his clones get blown away.

Naruto isn't getting through susano with body flicker.

Keaton destroys those bum clones quite easily

When bm drops, naruto loses no diff

 

[Midday]

How does naruto survive PS slash? All his clones get blown away.

Naruto isn't getting through susano with body flicker.

Keaton destroys those bum clones quite easily

When bm drops, naruto loses no diff

He tanks it the same way he blocked the juubi's tbb.

Madara's not constantly in susanoo especially at the start of the battle where he can be blitzed.

The same bum clones that are able to take out kages? His chakra tails easily block katons like it did with Obito's Kaumi katon or just dodge with their speed.

How long can Madara maintain ps. A regular one wont cut it against a load of sm/km clones which can spam rasenshurikens to destroy it. No diff is clearly not happening.

 

[AGoodBoy]

He tanks it the same way he blocked the juubi's tbb.

Madara's not constantly in susanoo especially at the start of the battle where he can be blitzed.

The same bum clones that are able to take out kages? His chakra tails easily block katons like it did with Obito's Kaumi katon or just dodge with their speed.

How long can Madara maintain ps. A regular one wont cut it against a load of sm/km clones which can spam rasenshurikens to destroy it. No diff is clearly not happening.

Can't remember that manga page so I won't refute this.
Madara wouldn't watch naruto go bm and watch him casually. He knows what the kyuubi is capable of. Naruto won't blitz him that easy anyway. Edo madara easily blocked bm naruto rasengan and blocked ay's boosted speed. His ems allows for astounding movement prediction.

Those kages were ripped easily by madara. Naruto can't take on 5 image at once. Ems madara would be able to do it just like Edo madara did. Also, obitos katon isn't near madara's...

Any rasengan naruto uses is getting uchiha returned and blasting him away.

Edit: he can hold PS for at least 10 minutes. That susano'o cloaked kyuubi wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes

Bm keeps getting auto corrected to bum XD

 

[the dark king]

madara wins high diff naruto isn't a pushover and he's got a large arsenal but madara is supposed to be able to use amaterasu (which can be used to fill the battle ground) and his susanoo can cut mountain ranges with one slash now imagine what several slashes could do. the speed at which the uchiha can activate susanoo is increadible as seen when itachi activated susanoo before kirin could hit him and madara is supposed to be better than itachi so chances are that he can activate susanoo faster or at the same speed as itachi.

also madars's katon gets rid of rasenshuriken and if madra makes clones of himself or his susanoo or both then it would really be difficult for naruto to stop clones that can use katon, uchiha return, amaterasu, and possibly susanoo, and if he can do taju kage bushin no jutsu then it changes to mid diff.

 

[Midday]

Can't remember that manga page so I won't refute this.
Madara wouldn't watch naruto go bm and watch him casually. He knows what the kyuubi is capable of. Naruto won't blitz him that easy anyway. Edo madara easily blocked bm naruto rasengan and blocked ay's boosted speed. His ems allows for astounding movement prediction.

Those kages were ripped easily by madara. Naruto can't take on 5 image at once. Ems madara would be able to do it just like Edo madara did. Also, obitos katon isn't near madara's...

Any rasengan naruto uses is getting uchiha returned and blasting him away.

Edit: he can hold PS for at least 10 minutes. That susano'o cloaked kyuubi wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes

Bm keeps getting auto corrected to bum XD

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. He can't exactly stop Naruto going into bm, i'm not sure on this but didn't Naruto already transform in front of Madara and Obito already? Madara got blitzed by Lee here and the look on his face seems like he could do nothing about it,

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. The sharringan can't keep up with Naruto's speed shown by Kakashi even mistaking Naruto for Minato,

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, let alone Madara being able to physically dodge. Edo Madara blocked Naruto falling towards him which isn't the same as a burst of his body flicker speed, he also didn't react to the Raikages speed he just stood in susanoo and took the hit.

I was talking about Mu and the 3rd Raikage which 1 clones was able to deal with and those guys are above the current generation, this point is only to show that Naruto's clones aren't scrubs. It was also Edo Madara who took them who took several fatal hits in that fight.

One rasengan can get blocked but he can't use that same trick against a load of Naruto's clones, not to mention he already has knowledge and wouldn't run into the fan.

Where did it say ps can last for 10 mins? I personally don't think he can maintain ps for too long, a regular susanoo eats away at the users life force and seems pretty hard to maintain for long after seeing Sasuke and Itachi's experience, the perfect susanoo must be hell for the user.

 

[Strict]

First people claimed that the perfect Susanoo would be destroyed by a TBB, now, as they realize that it was BS, they go for Madaras stamina. The EMS is a Mangekyo without limits, Obitos control over the Kyuubi lowered his actions against Minato, Madara however controlled Kyuubi like a pet while maintaining the perfect Susanoo, spamming dozens of TBB-Shuriken and fighting after that a seemingly long period. He also fought the Senju for 24 hours in that flashback.

 

[AGoodBoy]

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. He can't exactly stop Naruto going into bm, i'm not sure on this but didn't Naruto already transform in front of Madara and Obito already? Madara got blitzed by Lee here and the look on his face seems like he could do nothing about it,

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. The sharringan can't keep up with Naruto's speed shown by Kakashi even mistaking Naruto for Minato,

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, let alone Madara being able to physically dodge. Edo Madara blocked Naruto falling towards him which isn't the same as a burst of his body flicker speed, he also didn't react to the Raikages speed he just stood in susanoo and took the hit.

I was talking about Mu and the 3rd Raikage which 1 clones was able to deal with and those guys are above the current generation, this point is only to show that Naruto's clones aren't scrubs. It was also Edo Madara who took them who took several fatal hits in that fight.

One rasengan can get blocked but he can't use that same trick against a load of Naruto's clones, not to mention he already has knowledge and wouldn't run into the fan.

Where did it say ps can last for 10 mins? I personally don't think he can maintain ps for too long, a regular susanoo eats away at the users life force and seems pretty hard to maintain for long after seeing Sasuke and Itachi's experience, the perfect susanoo must be hell for the user.

I didnt mean he'd stop naruto going bum. I meant he'd use susano. He wouldn't watch bm naruto and not use susano.
Basic susano is enough to defend against naruto. PS takes on his bm kyuubi form.
Ems madara fought for 24 hrs, so I'd assume he can hold Susano for long. Tbb, rasengan and rasenshuriken aren't getting through.

PS tanks tbb
Uchiha return on rasengans
Dodge thrown radon shurikens

Every time naruto uses a bushin his power is split easily between them.
10 bush in is the same strength as 1 full power bm naruto, there's just more numbers for the same over power. The bushins are destroyed relatively easily.

I understand your other points but madara has shown to react to incredible speed.

There's no manga proof of how long madara hold susano but its obviously long if he fights for 24 hrs with ems. He wouldn't have survived against has hi and senju for that long without susano.

Seriously naruto loses.
I'm on a phone so no manga scans

 

[Unorthodox]

More people need to start adding a few sentances why they think X would win instead of "X takes Y, z difficulty" it doesn't add much to the thread.

Naruto's able to maintain Bm for at least 8 mins, the question is how long can Madara maintain PS. Also Madara's shown nothing to counter Naruto's bursts of body flicker, he already got split in two by Lee and couldn't do anything let alone against Naruto who can have at least 4 bm clones about with all his original abilites. Also just because Madara's susanoo tanked one average tbb doesn't mean he can tank the super bijuudama Naruto can use or a barrage of them. Naruto's already been shown to be able to tank the Juubi's tbb which exceeds the power of perfect susanoo by a lot.

naruto didnt tank a tbb it was a tiny skinny beam like this

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we all know juubi tbb would destroy anything and naruto verse also that was 1st form juubi susanoo sword flatten mountains like nothing naruto hasit got that destructive power also kurama doesnt have the durabillity of a meteor and 2 mountains naruto is defeated posted manga scans for what? no one is going to agree with you idiotic fanboyism but i couldnt expect nothing less from the man saying naruto can punch mountains away