So Madara doesn't have Amaterasu afterall....

[lordmadarauchiha]

do u think Kakashi can perform Tsukuyomi... remember he has Mangekyō Sharingan

His Mangekyō power is kamui

 

[nuku ninja]

It was never stated in the manga that you needed both Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi to have Susano'o, all that was said is it comes with awakening powers in both eyes.

Shuisui only had the one genjutsu and Obito had an eye removed, he might of been able to awaken Susano'o but we'll never know. So far the rest of the Uchihas who had Mangekyo could use Susano'o (excluding Izuna because we haven't seen him fight).

 

[lordmadarauchiha]

It was never stated in the manga that you needed both Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi to have Susano'o, all that was said is it comes with awakening powers in both eyes.

Shuisui only had the one genjutsu and Obito had an eye removed, he might of been able to awaken Susano'o but we'll never know. So far the rest of the Uchihas who had Mangekyo could use Susano'o (excluding Izuna because we haven't seen him fight).

I think izuna had susanoo because madara EMS susanoo has two faces so the other face is izuna susanoo face

 

[Jonordo]

His Mangekyō power is kamui

but remember to have ems u r capable of both and more it is jus that u have to have the know how... and if it was not for tobi kakashi would not have used Kamui

 

[Uchihabrat1560]

I thought EMS has a particular signature technique, madara wouldn't be having amaterasu probably.. like sasuke doesn't have time reversal..

 

[uncle sam]

Well amaterasu is a waste of chakra against hashi..he can most likely avoid it with his sage mode.plus since hashi uses wood clones so much he wouldn't nessasarily know if he was aiming at the real deal.the same logic applies to kakashis kamui,hence why he doesnt spam it.

Another thing to note is that we've already seen amaterasu used by itachi and sasuke.whats the point of showing it again?kishi probably decided to focus on his more unique abilities,like PS,kurama summoning etc

Also,correct me if im wrong,but didn't he use tsukoyomi on ay?or was that just sharingan genjutsu

 

[ajpn920]

If we will apply logic to this, then it will turn out that Madara can use Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. Why? Here's the thing. It was not said the Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi was awakened by Itachi first. We all know that there are only a handful of Uchiha who awakened MS and it was Madara and Izuna who first awakened MS as shown here:

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It was also said that the Susanoo is the third ability granted by the Mangekyō Sharingan to those who awaken Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. We know Madara has Susanoo and if Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi is unique to Itachi then how come Zetsu knows about the technique?

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Even Tobi said that a Sharingan that can activate even Susanoo is a rarity. Why rarity? It's because you can only activate it when both Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi have been awakened.

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[Draphsin]

Agree 100%

Throughout all of madara's screen time he hasnt once shown ama or tsukuyomi, therefore he doesnt have it

He's had plenty of opportunities to cast tsukuyomi, as well as ama so saying the he "just hasnt used it yet" is a ridiculous claim...

 

[Draphsin]

(I knew we would have to do battle one day, my friend.)

Madara wanted to be revived in human form by Nagato so that he could become the Juubi's jinchuriki in order to cast the Mugen Tsukuyomi. It's equally ridiculous to assume that he doesn't have it as it is to assume that he does.

(lol I see...well then I hope you know what you're doing )

Madara wanted to cast

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genjutsu for his plan, which is shown to be different from tsukuyomi

If madara could use it then he wouldv'e in that scan

 

[pateuvasiliu]

I just want you know, this is what's called backwards logic, it can be assumed that since he hasn't used it he does not have have it. He has never even mentioned it

Itachi clearly said you need Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi for Susanoo.

Madara has Tsukuyomi and he probably has Amaterasu.

 

[reizon]

ofcourse he doesnt have amatersu, neither tsukuyomi.
those jutsus solely belong to itachi.
the third tech is the only one that common to all mangekyou users.

the previous techs vary from person to person.
its not that hard to understand XD

 

[pateuvasiliu]

ofcourse he doesnt have amatersu, neither tsukuyomi.
those jutsus solely belong to itachi.
the third tech is the only one that common to all mangekyou users.

the previous techs vary from person to person.
its not that hard to understand XD

Okay genius, how will Madara use Infinite Tsukuyomi if he doesn't have Tsukuyomi.

/facepalm

 

[Yatori]

We just saw a few part so cant be proof yet..