The reason Madara survived (DETAILED)

[deva pein]

So there is a lot of predicting going on how Madara survived the fight.
Some people say Madara used a clone but the only clone that we have seen so far that is able to tank so much damage is a mokuton bunshin, and at that time only Hashirama had it.

Other people say that he put some of Hashi's DNA in his wound, but Hashirama made sure that he killed Madara so that is not possible without Madara awaking from the dead or something.

Some people say it was a genjutsu, and those people are probably right. It has been shown multiple times in the manga that the genjutsu of the Uchiha are depicted like this:

Sasuke used a genjutsu just before Danzo and he had their final clash. This genjutsu was to confuse Danzo.

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Itachi used this genjutsu to confuse Killer Bee.

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Madara used this genjutsu to confuse Hashirama.

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This is not the only proof, Hashirama thought that he saw something or someone dissapear, which must have been the real Madara:

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So my guess is that Madara had placed Hashirama under a light genjutsu which is hard to notice, and then switched with a clone or something. After Hashirama left the battlefield Madara came back and got DNA from the mokuton bunshin.

Madara couldn't have been tricked by a mokuton bushin because he said that he was the only one who could see through them.

 

[Sefirosu Masamune]

Madara implanted the DNA in his wound.. if he was the one wounded then it was not a clone..

 

[Cursed Prince]

Yes, you just said exactly what Im thinking. Everyone should read this

 

[ArashiStorm]

I couldn't agree with you more

 

[deva pein]

Madara implanted the DNA in his wound.. if he was the one wounded then it was not a clone..

This is the only thing which i can't figure out. Guess we will have to wait for the manga.

 

[Shalev]

So there is a lot of predicting going on how Madara survived the fight.
Some people say Madara used a clone but the only clone that we have seen so far that is able to tank so much damage is a mokuton bunshin, and at that time only Hashirama had it.

Other people say that he put some of Hashi's DNA in his wound, but Hashirama made sure that he killed Madara so that is not possible without Madara awaking from the dead or something.

Some people say it was a genjutsu, and those people are probably right. It has been shown multiple times in the manga that the genjutsu of the Uchiha are depicted like this:

Sasuke used a genjutsu just before Danzo and he had their final clash. This genjutsu was to confuse Danzo.

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Itachi used this genjutsu to confuse Killer Bee.

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Madara used this genjutsu to confuse Hashirama.

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This is not the only proof, Hashirama thought that he saw something or someone dissapear, which must have been the real Madara:

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So my guess is that Madara had placed Hashirama under a light genjutsu which is hard to notice, and then switched with a clone or something. After Hashirama left the battlefield Madara came back and got DNA from the mokuton bunshin.

Madara couldn't have been tricked by a mokuton bushin because he said that he was the only one who could see through them.

Very nice, Kind sir, I shall reward thee with a present.

 

[Tera Path]

Madara could've been tricked, he didn't have his sharingan activated the last few panels.

 

[deva pein]

Madara could've been tricked, he didn't have his sharingan activated the last few panels.

He did have his eternal mangekyou sharingan a panel or two before the last one. After the genjutsu his ocular powers where depleted.

 

[magicman]

When hashirama looked up did he notice something maybe was it the one who saved Madara, because Madara have hashirama DNA exactly the same place where he got wounded

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Some say Izanagi but you need both Senju and Uchiha DNA to use it, so it's most probably a genjutsu, good work OP

 

[Tera Path]

He did have his eternal mangekyou sharingan a panel or two before the last one. After the genjutsu his ocular powers where depleted.

When they exchanged blows Madara didnt have his sharingan activated.

 

[Honord Sage]

It's obvious Madara survive and set about putting His plan over the years in action and waiting for someone like Obito to continue His plan, The last fight might have ben a genjutsu on Madara's parted to hid His trail and His true intentions.

 

[tife]

IT IS NOT IZANAGI........HE HAS THE STAB SCAR ON HIS CHEST!!.....HASHIRAMA WAS NOT UNDER A GENJUSTSU.
Izanagi is a genjutsu that is cast on the user instead of others and is the most powerful amongst this type of genjutsu.While the user remains physically real while fighting, this technique is capable of turning any occurrence including injuries and even death inflicted upon themselves while the technique is active into mere "illusions". Whenever the user receives a fatal injury, he or she automatically fades away as though they were an illusion all along and then returns back to reality; physically real and unscathed.
DO YOU NOW SEE WHY THIS IS NOT IZANAGI?

SO PLEASE LEAVE IZANAGI/GENJUTSE OUT. Any other theory pls...

 

[Forget Me Not]

Some say Izanagi but you need both Senju and Uchiha DNA to use it, so it's most probably a genjutsu, good work OP

No you don't. Senju DNA only strengthens and prolongs the genjutsu.

But I agree, OP's thread is entirely plausible.

 

[Forget Me Not]

IT IS NOT IZANAGI........HE HAS THE STAB SCAR ON HIS CHEST!!.....HASHIRAMA WAS NOT UNDER A GENJUSTSU, THAT IS JUST LAME.
Izanagi is a genjutsu that is cast on the user instead of others and is the most powerful amongst this type of genjutsu.While the user remains physically real while fighting, this technique is capable of turning any occurrence including injuries and even death inflicted upon themselves while the technique is active into mere "illusions". Whenever the user receives a fatal injury, he or she automatically fades away as though they were an illusion all along and then returns back to reality; physically real and unscathed.
DO YOU NOW SEE WHY THIS IS NOT IZANAGI?

SO PLEASE LEAVE IZANAGI/GENJUTSE OUT. Any other theory pls...

Why are you spamming this in every theory thread? This thread has nothing to do with Izanagi. OP suggests that Madara could have used some form of generic genjutsu to ploy Hashirama. Did you even read his post? Has some nice logical and visual evidence.

 

[rollin]

not a genjutsu that's the wound he put hashi's dna in

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madara most likely let his guard down because he didn't think hashi would actually kill him

 

[tife]

Why are you spamming this in every theory thread? This thread has nothing to do with Izanagi. OP suggests that Madara could have used some form of generic genjutsu to ploy Hashirama. Did you even read his post? Has some nice logical and visual evidence.

THATS THE POINT!! I DON'T REMEMBER AN UCHIHA AFTER CASTING A GENJUTSU GETTING THE SAME INJURY FROM IT.
Its a sweet theory but it faults the idea of a Genjutsu

 

[foxyladyland]

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in didn't read , but if this is kinda about madara possibly using genjutsu or a clone at the end of that fight

or about him having 2 spare sharingans , and then implanting them into his head

and using izanagi to give himself life and undo his death but keeping the same wound kinda sorta maybe

and only having 1 sharingan when obito awakes and after giving his original eyes to nagato

and dying afterwards thus explaining hwy he only had 1 sharingan in the underground cavern

and the moon being symbolism for the moon eye plan & tsukuyomi & genjutsu kinda then I kinda agree.

 

[Klad]

Senju DNA only make Izanagi stronger. I still belive that Madara used Izanagi,although this is an EXCELLENT theory . Good job!!

 

[deva pein]

No you don't. Senju DNA only strengthens and prolongs the genjutsu.

But I agree, OP's thread is entirely plausible.

It is stated in the manga that you need both the uchiha and the senju DNA for izanagi. You don't need it for izanami like Itachi proved.