[VS] EMS Sasuke vs. Konoha 11 (no Naruto)

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Still solos K11.

how?,he cant all at once,and neji and hinata can see his chakta floe to know when enton,amaterasu or an arrow is coming,sai can fly and distract him,he cant cover his entire susanoo with enton. He can't face all 11 as they would spread out and ambush him,if he stays in susanoo,he is very likely going to be caught with a shadow binding,or mind tranfer.
 

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Sasuke takes this none of them except maybe lee can avoid or susano arrows and none of them can break through susansoo if numbers become to many then an Amaterasu circle will stop any of them from getting too close.
 

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Sasuke Uchiha. Also If Ino uses her Mind Transfer Technique and actually makes it into Sasuke's Mind, Sasuke could use Genjutsu on her considering Sakura used her Inner Self to counter it[ ]. Sakura also has shown with pure will she can resist[ ]. Sasuke has shown his will is Strong and Sinster[ ]. He broke out of Danzo's seal through sheer will power. Susanoo itself is an extension of his will and emotion[ ]. Along with this[ ], being in Sasuke's mind is not a safe place to be. Shikamaru Shadow bind has also been shown to struggle holding someone with a strong will. It also so has a limit[ ][ ]. The Susanoo user does not need his body to control the Susanoo.
 

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how?,he cant all at once,and neji and hinata can see his chakta floe to know when enton,amaterasu or an arrow is coming,sai can fly and distract him,he cant cover his entire susanoo with enton. He can't face all 11 as they would spread out and ambush him,if he stays in susanoo,he is very likely going to be caught with a shadow binding,or mind tranfer.

Neji and Hinata aren't fast enough to dodge it, even if they know its coming it doesn't change the fact that they can't out speed it.
Its like saying SM Naruto can dodge Amaterasu just because he knows its coming.Foolishness.

Enton Magnetema would fly in all directions Sasuke has top tier long ranged attacks so him staying in one spot is likely to happen.
Ino can't even hold Obito for long so how can she hold Sasuke for more than 5 secs?

Sasuke can surround himself with enton like he did with the Itachi and Kabuto fight.


K11 are fodders compared to Sasuke why are you trying to discuss this?
 

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People are actually suggesting that Ino's Mind Transfer works on Sasuke? My goodness. The guy broke out of Itachi's Tsukuyomi with a 3T in a second or two, how is someone like Ino holding him at all? Preposterous. Neji is killed instantly as he doesn't have any speed feat to get of of magatamas way.

I find it absolutely offensive sometimes that people here hate Sasuke to this level than even K11 somehow push him to mid difference. What a huge joke.
 

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Neji and Hinata aren't fast enough to dodge it, even if they know its coming it doesn't change the fact that they can't out speed it.
Its like saying SM Naruto can dodge Amaterasu just because he knows its coming.Foolishness.

Enton Magnetema would fly in all directions Sasuke has top tier long ranged attacks so him staying in one spot is likely to happen.
Ino can't even hold Obito for long so how can she hold Sasuke for more than 5 secs?

Sasuke can surround himself with enton like he did with the Itachi and Kabuto fight.


K11 are fodders compared to Sasuke why are you trying to discuss this?

dude they can see it actually in his eyes building up,they can evade it with good timing, sm kabuto dodged it because he knew it was coming,not because he is faster than amaterasu,am not saying they are as fast,they can use their kaiten to deflect it or block it the moment they see it is about to leave his eyes,also,if he is in full susanoo,he cant shoot it out as his vision is blocked by susanoo that he is inside.

Ino held juubi,she held a 6tk kinkaku,she can hold sasuke,she was able to over power the control madara and tobi had on juubi and make it reditect it's tbb.

If sasuke surrounds himself with amaterasu flames,then he just boxes himself inside,making it easier to be hit. If he focuses on one K11,or one direction,he leaves himself open to ther direction.

The only top tier long range attacks he has come from his susanoo which he stays still,unless you can show me where he can move and fire susanoo arrows or maagatamas at the same time?

Yes,each one is a fodder to sasuke,but all together can beat him.

Naruto,kakashi,guy and bee each are not on tobi,but together they fought well.
 

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People are actually suggesting that Ino's Mind Transfer works on Sasuke? My goodness. The guy broke out of Itachi's Tsukuyomi with a 3T in a second or two, how is someone like Ino holding him at all? Preposterous. Neji is killed instantly as he doesn't have any speed feat to get of of magatamas way.

I find it absolutely offensive sometimes that people here hate Sasuke to this level than even K11 somehow push him to mid difference. What a huge joke.
thats' NB for ya.Full of ignorant kids.

dude they can see it actually in his eyes building up,they can evade it with good timing,Counter 2) sm kabuto dodged it because he knew it was coming,not because he is faster than amaterasu,am not saying they are as fast,they can use their kaiten to deflect it or block it the moment they see it is about to leave his eyes,also,if he is in full susanoo,he cant shoot it out as his vision is blocked by susanoo that he is inside.

Counter 1)Ino held juubi,she held a 6tk kinkaku,she can hold sasuke,she was able to over power the control madara and tobi had on juubi and make it reditect it's tbb.


Counter 3)If sasuke surrounds himself with amaterasu flames,then he just boxes himself inside,making it easier to be hit. If he focuses on one K11,or one direction,he leaves himself open to ther direction.

Counter 4)The only top tier long range attacks he has come from his susanoo which he stays still,unless you can show me where he can move and fire susanoo arrows or maagatamas at the same time?

Counter 5)Yes,each one is a fodder to sasuke,but all together can beat him.

Naruto,kakashi,guy and bee each are not on tobi,but together they fought well.

1)She overpowered Obito not Madara or the Juubi.If Sakura can snap out of it anyone can,gong into Sasuke's mind is stupid.The amount of darkness in his head can manufacture into something worse than a mere inner Sakura.

2)Kabuto dodges the Susanoo arrow not Amaterasu get your facts straight,Kabuto is a walking arsenal of counters against Sasuke so don't compare his oral rebirth to Neji's Kaiten which isn't instant at all.Google the word instant then come back to me.

3)None of Konoha 11 can penetrate Susanoo,He controls the flames so he's never trapped.Your using the Konoha 11 running round excuse when each and every one of them can't even dodge the Susanoo arrow.Sasuke has the sharingan to predict their moves so every arrow will hit.

4)That was only an example, even then those moves can hit each and every K11 member.His enton that will be scorching the field can easily speed up the process of Kirin being formed.Kirin 1 shots all of them.

5) Irrelevant.None the attacks thos 4 landed on Obito did pretty much nothing to him.He heals instantly thanks to senju dna

The fact that you think K11 > Sasuke is stupid the only reason i'll reply to your dumb post is cause i'll get my post count up.So keep on posting rubbish pal.
 
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thats' NB for ya.Full of ignorant kids.



1)She overpowered Obito not Madara or the Juubi.If Sakura can snap out of it anyone can,gong into Sasuke's mind is stupid.The amount of darkness in his head can manufacture into something worse than a mere inner Sakura.

2)Kabuto dodges the Susanoo arrow not Amaterasu get your facts straight,Kabuto is a walking arsenal of counters against Sasuke so don't compare his oral rebirth to Neji's Kaiten which isn't instant at all.Google the word instant then come back to me.

3)None of Konoha 11 can penetrate Susanoo,He controls the flames so he's never trapped.Your using the Konoha 11 running round excuse when each and every one of them can't even dodge the Susanoo arrow.Sasuke has the sharingan to predict their moves so every arrow will hit.

4)That was only an example, even then those moves can hit each and every K11 member.His enton that will be scorching the field can easily speed up the process of Kirin being formed.Kirin 1 shots all of them.

5) Irrelevant.None the attacks thos 4 landed on Obito did pretty much nothing to him.He heals instantly thanks to senju dna

The fact that you think K11 > Sasuke is stupid the only reason i'll reply to your dumb post is cause i'll get my post count up.So keep on posting rubbish pal.

1) tobi and madara were both controlling the juubi,you say i am posting rubbish,have you read your own?. You say she overpowered obito,yet in your previous post you said she cudnt hold him,and then in this same one,you said anyone can break it?,triple contradiction,nice going. Oh and if she could overpower tobi and control juubi,sasuke is no problem. Sakura had an inner persnality,which is why she resisited it,tobi and juubi are much darker than sasuke,so his darkness wont help.

2) kabuto dodged both,get your own facts straight,he dodged an arrow,then afterwards dodged amaterasu,both with sensing alone. Yea he had a host of counters,K11 have their fair share. He didnt use rebirth,and neji can see the amaterasu before it comes out,so he can smply time it well. 2T sasuke was getting beat by kn0 naruto,when he got 3t,he could see the atack coming and time a counter,the same with sasuke and A,he could see the elbow,and timed a dodge,same with killer b in 3tk,he could see his 3tk lariat and dodge,nagato could srnse itachi's amaterasu before he could fire,neji and hinata can see the chakra build up,you think they can't time a simple kaiten? Right.

3)while he is aiming at one,10 will attack,and ino,if among the 10 could hit him with a mind control jutsu,or shikamaru could trap him with a shadow binding,both of these can bypass susanoo's defence and get sasuke,the only way sasuke can get around the shadow,is to move.

4) this isnt chess,if he targets one with an arrow,the others attack as well.kirin isnt a good option,

5)nothing?they destroyed his mask and blew his sleeve,striped him of his paths and pushed him,considering he had senju uzumaki dna,an ms and a rinnegan,thats pretty impressive.

Mind control and shadow binding can bypass susanoo.

How is is foolish?,K11 each have special abilities,you have 2 byuakugan users that can see anything,a gates user,2 medical ninjas,2 shinobis who can bypass susanoo,a person that can fly,a guy that controls bugs that can suck chakra etc,and they are all in one team
 

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1) tobi and madara were both controlling the juubi,you say i am posting rubbish,have you read your own?. You say she overpowered obito,yet in your previous post you said she cudnt hold him,and then in this same one,you said anyone can break it?,triple contradiction,nice going. Oh and if she could overpower tobi and control juubi,sasuke is no problem. Sakura had an inner persnality,which is why she resisited it,tobi and juubi are much darker than sasuke,so his darkness wont help.

2) kabuto dodged both,get your own facts straight,he dodged an arrow,then afterwards dodged amaterasu,both with sensing alone. Yea he had a host of counters,K11 have their fair share. He didnt use rebirth,and neji can see the amaterasu before it comes out,so he can smply time it well. 2T sasuke was getting beat by kn0 naruto,when he got 3t,he could see the atack coming and time a counter,the same with sasuke and A,he could see the elbow,and timed a dodge,same with killer b in 3tk,he could see his 3tk lariat and dodge,nagato could srnse itachi's amaterasu before he could fire,neji and hinata can see the chakra build up,you think they can't time a simple kaiten? Right.

3)while he is aiming at one,10 will attack,and ino,if among the 10 could hit him with a mind control jutsu,or shikamaru could trap him with a shadow binding,both of these can bypass susanoo's defence and get sasuke,the only way sasuke can get around the shadow,is to move.

4) this isnt chess,if he targets one with an arrow,the others attack as well.kirin isnt a good option,

5)nothing?they destroyed his mask and blew his sleeve,striped him of his paths and pushed him,considering he had senju uzumaki dna,an ms and a rinnegan,thats pretty impressive.

Mind control and shadow binding can bypass susanoo.

How is is foolish?,K11 each have special abilities,you have 2 byuakugan users that can see anything,a gates user,2 medical ninjas,2 shinobis who can bypass susanoo,a person that can fly,a guy that controls bugs that can suck chakra etc,and they are all in one team

Kabuto had sage mode so I'm pretty sure that's the only reason he was able to dodge susanoo I mean naruto who isn't fast at all was capable of dodging the 3rd raikage at full speed because of sage mode the k11 won't be able to do it. Sasuke has shown to be capable when it comes to that mind crap, he got into naruto's head and suppressed the nintails and resisted orochimaru no problem I doubt ino would be any trouble.
Neji or hinata seeing Amaterasu in the second it takes to prepare it won't help as they won't be able to avoid it. They wouldn't know what they were seeing anyway. Also even if they do manage to dodge it sasuke just needs to track them with his eyes like itachi did when sasuke was trying to avoid it.
Susanoo moves independently of sasuke so shikamru binding him won't do a thing. It would be tough but sasuke takes this I can't see k11 winning
 

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1) tobi and madara were both controlling the juubi,you say i am posting rubbish,have you read your own?. You say she overpowered obito,yet in your previous post you said she cudnt hold him,and then in this same one,you said anyone can break it?,triple contradiction,nice going. Oh and if she could overpower tobi and control juubi,sasuke is no problem. Sakura had an inner persnality,which is why she resisited it,tobi and juubi are much darker than sasuke,so his darkness wont help.

2) kabuto dodged both,get your own facts straight,he dodged an arrow,then afterwards dodged amaterasu,both with sensing alone. Yea he had a host of counters,K11 have their fair share. He didnt use rebirth,and neji can see the amaterasu before it comes out,so he can smply time it well. 2T sasuke was getting beat by kn0 naruto,when he got 3t,he could see the atack coming and time a counter,the same with sasuke and A,he could see the elbow,and timed a dodge,same with killer b in 3tk,he could see his 3tk lariat and dodge,nagato could srnse itachi's amaterasu before he could fire,neji and hinata can see the chakra build up,you think they can't time a simple kaiten? Right.

3)while he is aiming at one,10 will attack,and ino,if among the 10 could hit him with a mind control jutsu,or shikamaru could trap him with a shadow binding,both of these can bypass susanoo's defence and get sasuke,the only way sasuke can get around the shadow,is to move.

4) this isnt chess,if he targets one with an arrow,the others attack as well.kirin isnt a good option,

5)nothing?they destroyed his mask and blew his sleeve,striped him of his paths and pushed him,considering he had senju uzumaki dna,an ms and a rinnegan,thats pretty impressive.

Mind control and shadow binding can bypass susanoo.

How is is foolish?,K11 each have special abilities,you have 2 byuakugan users that can see anything,a gates user,2 medical ninjas,2 shinobis who can bypass susanoo,a person that can fly,a guy that controls bugs that can suck chakra etc,and they are all in one team

1)How long did Ino posses Obito? exactly you're acting like she can hold him for long.You're overrating a mind transfer that was broken by a fodder ninja.Please show a manga scan of Sasuke aiming amaterasu at kabuto cause i guarantee its his enton manipulation.

2)I never said he did use rebirth, oral rebirth can avoid amaterasu since he's replacing his old body which is coated with amaterasu.Your still not getting it are you? Amaterasu is instant, the moment they even meet Sasuke's site they'd be dead just like that.You're once again not understanding what instant means,Sasuke one shots them either way.Amaterasu will hit them before or after their katen.(Since when ca Hinata use rotation? Don't use anime as an example.

3)You say all of them will attack when Sasuke is surrounded himself with enton.How will they get by this?
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I'm not gonna repeat the same shit as before people on this thread agrees with me as well, i'm not gonna talk about two moves that requires the opponent to stay still.The user doesn't have to stay in Susanoo as Itachi shows when stabbing Nagato.

4)Kirin is an option.If the battle drags on(of course it wouldn't but hey you don't listen) the heat will effect the sky which makes Kirin easier to use.The Sasuke vs Itachi fight made it clear on how Sasuke manged to do it.
Oh and about that Shikamru shadow foolishness,genjutsu would snap Shik out of his focus on his jutsu and in that split second, before someone like Choji tries to touch him to snap out the genjutsu BAM amaterasu hits Choji.

5)Doesn't change the fact that those 4 so called top class ninja barely landed large amount of damage.


I'm done now it seems that you can't comprehend the speed Amaterasu travels at.And you also think mind transfer would actually effect him lol.
 

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Kabuto had sage mode so I'm pretty sure that's the only reason he was able to dodge susanoo I mean naruto who isn't fast at all was capable of dodging the 3rd raikage at full speed because of sage mode the k11 won't be able to do it. Sasuke has shown to be capable when it comes to that mind crap, he got into naruto's head and suppressed the nintails and resisted orochimaru no problem I doubt ino would be any trouble.
Neji or hinata seeing Amaterasu in the second it takes to prepare it won't help as they won't be able to avoid it. They wouldn't know what they were seeing anyway. Also even if they do manage to dodge it sasuke just needs to track them with his eyes like itachi did when sasuke was trying to avoid it.
Susanoo moves independently of sasuke so shikamru binding him won't do a thing. It would be tough but sasuke takes this I can't see k11 winning

what did sm naruto and kabuto have in common?,sensing,they knew what was coming and timed their counters,neji and hinata can actually see the chakra building up and about to leave his eyes,even better than simple sensing. Yea,but ino isnt using genjutsu,it's a special skill which allowed her control juubi and overpower tobi's control,surpressing the kyubi is a sharingan ability,if she controlled juubi,why cant she control sasuke?.

Amaterasu comes of the eye very quickly,but they can see the chakra building up before sasuke actually is ready to fire it,kabuto could sense the amaterasu from his eyes and was able to time it,nagata sensed the pressure building up and was able to warn naruto,i didnt say they can dodge it,i said they can eject chakra from their body to stop it from hitting them. Also if sasuke focuses on them,he leaves himself open to abt 8 other shinobi,which is his problem,he can face only 1 direction,but he has nearly a dozen oponents at once.

Susanoo moves independently,true,but susanoo would not be there of shika makes him kill himself would it?

Also,going by manga knowledge,sasuke dosent have a clue of what almost all of them can do now,whereas they have a good idea about his ms techs as kakashi witnessed it,as well as sakura too. It's not that sasuke dosent have the power to do so,but the fact that he can face one direction at a time,and with their intel,shika would definately put up a plan.
 

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If Ino caught Obito in that, and Obito has the strongest dojutsu, she can very much catch Sasuke.
 

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If Ino caught Obito in that, and Obito has the strongest dojutsu, she can very much catch Sasuke.

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1.Madara has the strongest Doujutsu

2.Ino only caught 1 to 2 seconds which is not where near enough time to beat Sasuke.
 

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1.Madara has the strongest Doujutsu

2.Ino only caught 1 to 2 seconds which is not where near enough time to beat Sasuke.

Obito was being powered by the juubi, so it stands to reason that her being able to control someone who was in control of the most powerful being on existence for two seconds is extraordinary.
 

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1.Madara has the strongest Doujutsu

2.Ino only caught 1 to 2 seconds which is not where near enough time to beat Sasuke.

Madara ain't alive. Bitch please.

Obito is currently the strongest shinobi alive, with probably the second or third chakra amounts. He also has the Rinnegan which is superior to the EMS.
 

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Sasuke none of them can dodge Amaterasu
 

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Sasuke wins

Shikamaru

Shikamaru's shadow possession jutsu would have been a big problem for Sasuke like most ninjas who move their body in order to use their power, but Sasuke like all Uchiha powers come from his eyes which means even if Shikamaru uses the shadow possession jutsu on Sasuke...he would still get on shot by Amaterasu since Sasuke doesn't the body in order to use his powers from the eyes.

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Lee

Lee is by far the fastest ninja in Konoha 11, but Sasuke was able to keep with the 4th Railkage(3rd fastest ninja)in his V1 with his 3 tome Sharingan and that's is more than what i can say for Lee's speed....even though couldn't keep with the 4th Railkage V2 speed...he still showed the reflexes to put his Enton shield on time with the 4th Railkage using his max speed.

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Neji

He would take a long time so look at bottom for the full explaining.

Susanoo

A Hyuga needs to come close enough in order to turn off a person's Chakra system and Susanoo being made of Chakra doesn't mean they can stop the Susanoo just by touching it...they need go throw the Susanoo with pure force and no Hyuuga has enough force to go throw Ribcage Susanoo let alone any other form of Susanoo.....the Byakugan is like an x-ray which see throw your whole boy in other words it helps a Hyuga see the flow of their opponent's Chakra system then that will help them hit the right places to turn off the system of their Chakra, but since Susanoo is made by the users Chakra then they need to go throw the Susanoo itself and then turn off their Chakra in other words a Hyuga can't do anything against Susanoo or it's weapons.

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Amaterasu

There is nothing a Hyuug can do about this Jutsu obviously since you need a great speed like BM Naruto or Minato or the Railkage and those guys are the fastest ninjas to ever live and no Hyuga is nowhere their speed which the mean reason why a Hyuga is useless against just an attack...Amaterasu hits the place where the user's sight is focused on which makes it difficult to dodge...even if a Hyuga was to react fast enough to do Rotation then the Amaterasu will still burn throw the Rotation since it's made of Chakra and kill the person...Amaterasu has soon it can burn throw Chakra it's whhich an example when Sasuke fought the Railkage who had a Bijuu level Chakra and it's still burn throw he's armor which was made of a Chakra and when Sasuke used Katon on Itachi and Itachi used the Amaterasu to burn the Katon which also made of Chakra...it other words the Hyugas don't have the speed to dodge Amaterasu and their Rotation is useless since Amaterasu can burn Chakra itself.

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Genjutsu

Nothing in the Manga states that Genjusu or Tsukuyomi is useless against a Hyuga so until then they get one-shot with it....Itachi already stated only a bloodline of the Uchiha can hope to break throw Tsukuomi even a Sharingan users like Danzo and Kakashi were caught in Genjutsu without even knowing they were in one...Uchiha Genjutsu are instant especially Itachi's Genjutsu which means you're dead or defeated in that instant you were put under that Genjutsu...closing your eyes is even more useless since you can't use your Byakugan and will be too blind to fight a powerful foe.

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The rest are easy.....we can debate about it when they can do something about the Final Susanoo and dodge 7 to 8 Amaterasu fire balls and still an Orb of Amaterasu fire balls.

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Madara ain't alive. Bitch please.

Obito is currently the strongest shinobi alive, with probably the second or third chakra amounts. He also has the Rinnegan which is superior to the EMS.

Huh

I as i can remember...you didn't say anything about the Ninja with the strongest Doujutus being alive or dead...you said " Obito has the strongest dojutsu"...please, be careful as to what you say before posting next time.
 
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Obito was being powered by the juubi, so it stands to reason that her being able to control someone who was in control of the most powerful being on existence for two seconds is extraordinary.

No, Obito was controlling the Juubi with Mokuton not being powered by Juubi ....also, Ino only caught Obito off guard, but where as when she's facing Sasuke....she won't have the that advantage and beside...Saukra freed herself from Ino's technique.

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