Okay Lets End This Madara and ''Izanagi argument

[Uchiha Samater]

Since this mornings chapter most of the base has leaned to how Madara used, or how he didn't use Izanagi


I for one firmly believe he DID NOT use Izanagi


First things first


1.Uchiha and Senju DNA needed:

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Unless somehow Madara is instantly able to harness the senju power, i doubt he used Izanagi based on Obito's accounts, and also we have only seen two people use Izanagi so far and BOTH had Senju and Uchiha related dna with them.






2. No Wounds :

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In the above Image, we CLEARLY see Obito mention that with Izanagi wounds and damage are turned intro a dream, i.e. NON-EXISTENT

However when Obito first laid eyes on Nagato he remembered Madara informing about how he managed to obtain the rinnegan, and showed him his scar on his chest, where Hashirama stabbed him

Flashback :

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Hashirama Stabs Madara:

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3. Izanagi Costs You Your Sight:

I wont delve into it as we should all know this, [read your manga people], Izanagi is used at the cost of an eye

EMS is an eternal Mangekyou as use of the Mangekyou sharingan costs you in blindness, [one can argue what about Obito, but thats another argument altogether, i personally believe its something to do with Hashi's cells]

But back to the point Izanagi costs you your eye, and we know Madara gave his eyes to Nagato:

Madara giving his eyes away:

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Izanagi Costing your Eye:

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enjoy

 

[RaitonOniKairRasengan]

On your first point with both DNAs needed, obito did say this however it may not be true due to the fact that itachi contradicted him. He said the uchihas long abused this power thus inazami being created
Similar to Danzo, I believe senju dna was used to increase the effectiveness/time span

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[Everztar]

Madara might've faked his own death to fool the shinobi world... or perhaps he was forced to use the third eye because otherwise he would've died... third eye? you think... but hear me out... because maybe Madara DID use izanagi... but people saying you need Senju DNA for that...? and people say it's impossible because Madara didn't have the Rinnegan and afterwards wouldn't be able to get Rinnegan?

remember what Madara stated; "at first... nothing happened..." but when he was about to die he got Rinengan...?
Madara still could've had the Senju DNA? lol
just like Danzo... Danzo didn't have Rinnegan either?

just maybe... just maybe Madara did use Izanagi somehow...

because do you remember how Madara had 1 spare eye in his left eye socket when he first met Obito?

perhaps he had an extra pair this whole time, but used that other eye for Izanagi and therefore only had one left?

conclusion; in the fight with Hashirama... Madara had 1 hidden eye somewhere on his body implanted with senju dna that he actually got from before this fight? just like danzo's arm senju + sharingan implant? resulting in Madara had 3 eyes during the fight... perhaps maybe 4... but only had to use 1 to cheat his death... therefore having 1 spare eye when he gave his original eyes to Nagato!


** and remember... he might've gotten some small wounds before the sword stab **

 

[Naruto hinata]

Yeah man, this need to end

 

[Uchiha Samater]

Then wouldnt Itachi also update Sasuke, who to your logic, is invincible, as he can spam Izanagi as he sees fit?

I believe Madara used hashi's blood around him, or maybe he fell on some of hashis blood and he noticed it healed him, that or Hashi is lying and healed him

Izanagi cant happen

 

[foxyladyland]

the only possible way
madara was definitely after hashi dna , but he still got beat in that fight..

he survived but he couldn't have used izanagi just like that because he unlocked the rinnegan

if he used izanagi, his eye would disappear with vision.

so he gave up up his rinnagan to nagato and later got two more eyes to use

he found the mokuton senju hashi dna mazou and attached to it........

he prob died while being stuck on it, or trying to connect to it and used izanagi

and that is why one eye was missing

 

[Uchiha Samater]

can someone please explain Madara's scar on his chest also, which he clearly looks at when mentioning his wounds , i even highlighted his eyes looking down and the scar being in the EXACT same spot as where hashi stabbed him

the answer was clear

 

[foxyladyland]

can someone please explain Madara's scar on his chest also, which he clearly looks at when mentioning his wounds , i even highlighted his eyes looking down and the scar being in the EXACT same spot as where hashi stabbed him

the answer was clear

so does that mean you think he used izanagi??

also he could've maybe , but by combining it with the later discovered hashirama dna and the mazou.

gives his light back into his sharingan....big maybe........,but not too big....

 

[Uchiha Samater]

so does that mean you think he used izanagi??

also he could've maybe , but by combining it with the later discovered hashirama dna and the mazou.

gives his light back into his sharingan....big maybe........,but not too big....

no i used that in my argument to say he did not use Izanagi, but was maybe healed, or used some of he good ol Hashi dna lying everywhere to heal himself, [after accidently finding out it heals him], i also used another pic where obito says when using izanagi wounds are made into a dream, so there should not be any scar on his chest

i want the pro izanagi faction to clarify it