Kisame VS Prime Sasuke and *WHY KISAME WINS*

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See this kinda makes sense, but you are missing one vital piece of evidence

Even though sasuke may use chakra to direct kirin to the enemy, that in no way makes kirin a full fledged chakra based attack.

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As you can see by that scan, Its impossible for any human to produce an attack of that scale with just their chakra. And Zetsu states that sasuke channels his attack from the sky. Both of these points mean that kirin is more lightning than chakra, meaning that kisame will still be devastated by it :p

Kisame can counter that with a water dragon and absorb the rest of it infused with chakra.. Don't think he's just gonna stand there and look it lol!
 

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What are you talking about? I already posted the same page on Page 5 of the thread I think. The contractor thing was from a show I watched.

And thats why i said that =w= Contractors from DTB ~ Sister living inside you meaning you the reaper have your sister actually fused to you.. Fapping = Incest.. so staph D:
 

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this is why you no get no pay tonight...wtf are u typing in english
Wait i was talking to you... ? So in need of my attention for what reason ? More butt hurt, no thank you, you have no proof :c Ask Drproof to mentor you, he can pull bunnies out of his hat~ Can you ?
 

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He wouldnt use suiton on techniques that arent aimed at him. If sasuke feints a fireball to miss, then kisame will overlook it just as Itachi did. And also as I said ama will be constantly burning and its on a larger scale than what Itachi can produce

Oh yeah I just remembered, Sasuke can shoot ama into the sky :eek:

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u shouldnt use susano in this debate because it is chakra and kisame can absorb chakra bia samehada....and itachi dnt have any water tachs thats why he dodged them kisame has water techs and would put out the fire techs and u say sasuke would just shoot the fireballs in the air well kisame would knw something is coming and would give him time to do something....that was bad logic because part of kirin's build up is to fool the opponent and catch them off guard as seen when he used it against itachi
 

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We can only assume that it is half, and half. However, take a look at this:

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Lightning is in no way affecting that large of a proportion of Suiton, it's effects would simmer due to the waters sheer size, and density.

I like the argument you've presented, it took me by surprise.

lol thanks, I knew kirin would be sasuke's only hope, but it is a crippling attack on kisame, no matter if the chakra ratio is 50/50 its still an extremely large attack

But isnt water a conductor of electricity? Wouldn't kirin on the dome just have a similar effect as having a toaster in the tub?
 

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Wait i was talking to you... ? So in need of my attention for what reason ? More butt hurt, no thank you, you have no proof :c Ask Drproof to mentor you, he can pull bunnies out of his hat~ Can you ?

again u said this is why u no get no pay tonight....again speak english...u get no( and i need a mentor)
 

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And thats why i said that =w= Contractors from DTB ~ Sister living inside you meaning you the reaper have your sister actually fused to you.. Fapping = Incest.. so staph D:
Oh shit! XD XD I just realized that Hei's sister Bai fused her soul within him in South America I think. That's why BK201 originally belonged to her and not Hei. It's also why Hei didn't have to pay a price. It's like Jinchuuriki's o_o

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lol thanks, I knew kirin would be sasuke's only hope, but it is a crippling attack on kisame, no matter if the chakra ratio is 50/50 its still an extremely large attack

But isnt water a conductor of electricity? Wouldn't kirin on the dome just have a similar effect as having a toaster in the tub?

how can sasuke use kirin if he's in the water dome??? lol he cant any fire tech into the sky wouldnt even be formed because he's in water
 

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lol thanks, I knew kirin would be sasuke's only hope, but it is a crippling attack on kisame, no matter if the chakra ratio is 50/50 its still an extremely large attack

But isnt water a conductor of electricity? Wouldn't kirin on the dome just have a similar effect as having a toaster in the tub?

Not likely due to a Tub being a small facility of water. While a huge lightning bolt condescending into a mountain sized dome of water would be different.

Sasuke is no doubt a formidable opponent in this match-up, but overall I see Kisame taking this.
 

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u shouldnt use susano in this debate because it is chakra and kisame can absorb chakra bia samehada....and itachi dnt have any water tachs thats why he dodged them kisame has water techs and would put out the fire techs and u say sasuke would just shoot the fireballs in the air well kisame would knw something is coming and would give him time to do something....that was bad logic because part of kirin's build up is to fool the opponent and catch them off guard as seen when he used it against itachi

The point isnt about sasuke using susanoo, its about sasuke using ama orb, which is near instant, and a few of those shots into the air would be even better than using katon

Itachi knows suiton jutsu, theres two instances where he uses it. And please tell me how this makes my logic bad? Sasuke can fire multiple katon jutsus at once, which makes for great distractions and feints. It seems like you dont know what that word means...
 

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The point isnt about sasuke using susanoo, its about sasuke using ama orb, which is near instant, and a few of those shots into the air would be even better than using katon

Itachi knows suiton jutsu, theres two instances where he uses it. And please tell me how this makes my logic bad? Sasuke can fire multiple katon jutsus at once, which makes for great distractions and feints. It seems like you dont know what that word means...

lol u said its not about susano its about the ama orbs...susano is what throws the orbs
 

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Oh shit! XD XD I just realized that Hei's sister Bai fused her soul within him in South America I think. That's why BK201 originally belonged to her and not Hei. It's also why Hei didn't have to pay a price. It's like Jinchuuriki's o_o

Plus rep. Good one.

8D he's so kewlio beans.. Funneh thing :C i had a reply for mister no logic dude call da best.. but i was like nah.. i ain't gonna make a dude cry tonight .. With you i don't cap or do proper grammar.. If he's dissing my english =w = i should go quote everything he says and fix his grammar.. Hurhur.. but but yeah.. never finished DTB D: I just had a falling out cause i kept spamming the intro xD it's amazing <3
 

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how can sasuke use kirin if he's in the water dome??? lol he cant any fire tech into the sky wouldnt even be formed because he's in water

lol and you think that kisame is going to immediately open with his water dome?? Fire techs are basic and kisame would see no need to use his trump card. The only way he would pull out water dome is if sasuke used susanoo, because then he will feel threatened..

Not likely due to a Tub being a small facility of water. While a huge lightning bolt condescending into a mountain sized dome of water would be different.

Sasuke is no doubt a formidable opponent in this match-up, but overall I see Kisame taking this.

Well I can definitely see kisame standing a chance, but IMO sasuke has a lot going for him in this fight.

I guess we're gonna have to agree to disagree :p

lol u said its not about susano its about the ama orbs...susano is what throws the orbs

Omfg so what? he can use susanoo briefly, its not like he's gonna maintain it for the whole fight...Stop trying to nitpick my words, I said that sasuke could use ama orb to heat up the atmosphere..He doesnt have to...
 
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The point isnt about sasuke using susanoo, its about sasuke using ama orb, which is near instant, and a few of those shots into the air would be even better than using katon

Itachi knows suiton jutsu, theres two instances where he uses it. And please tell me how this makes my logic bad? Sasuke can fire multiple katon jutsus at once, which makes for great distractions and feints. It seems like you dont know what that word means...

and i knw what it mean but u used that word and then said he would shoot the fire techs straight into the air after i said if sasuke uses those techs kisame would just put them out with water techs thats why i said bad logic....u said he would use them as feints and said he would shoot them in the air after what i said

btw i knw what feinting means i am an amateur mma fighter, feinting is acting like your about to do something without doing anything, fooling your opponent into thinking so...well again your logic is bad because if sasuke feints he won't be actually doing anything
 

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8D he's so kewlio beans.. Funneh thing :C i had a reply for mister no logic dude call da best.. but i was like nah.. i ain't gonna make a dude cry tonight .. With you i don't cap or do proper grammar.. If he's dissing my english =w = i should go quote everything he says and fix his grammar.. Hurhur.. but but yeah.. never finished DTB D: I just had a falling out cause i kept spamming the intro xD it's amazing <3

You mean "Howling" by Abingdon Boys School? Cause if it is, then you have good taste in intros lol. It was the best intro I've heard in full song. The lyrics were great and the feel.
 

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and i knw what it mean but u used that word and then said he would shoot the fire techs straight into the air after i said if sasuke uses those techs kisame would just put them out with water techs thats why i said bad logic....u said he would use them as feints and said he would shoot them in the air after what i said

btw i knw what feinting means i am an amateur mma fighter, feinting is acting like your about to do something without doing anything, fooling your opponent into thinking so...well again your logic is bad because if sasuke feints he won't be actually doing anything
Ame MMA.. Explains the level of stup- Whoops.. almost dissed on how a few blows to your skull left you a big illogical and a bit-- Omg i almost did it again.. Felt like I was about to insult you on how dull and boring your arguemen--... Woah... That's wrong I yet again almost said how grammar error you are.. Well btw u isn't a word.. it's "YOU"...
 

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8D he's so kewlio beans.. Funneh thing :C i had a reply for mister no logic dude call da best.. but i was like nah.. i ain't gonna make a dude cry tonight .. With you i don't cap or do proper grammar.. If he's dissing my english =w = i should go quote everything he says and fix his grammar.. Hurhur.. but but yeah.. never finished DTB D: I just had a falling out cause i kept spamming the intro xD it's amazing <3

i can correct myself and it is a lot of grammatical errors between everyone one on here like punctuation in my case and changing aroung words like you to u and etc... which is simply because im typing like i would text how most people would text but u are typing not making any sense...u get no
 

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You mean "Howling" by Abingdon Boys School? Cause if it is, then you have good taste in intros lol. It was the best intro I've heard in full song. The lyrics were great and the feel.

They could easily be mistaken for what's this bands name... x.x Erm.. The one's that sing for Blue exorcist... "Just howling in the shadows.." .. Hm... Uverworld that's right !
 

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i can correct myself and it is a lot of grammatical errors between everyone one on here like punctuation in my case and changing aroung words like you to u and etc... which is simply because im typing like i would text how most people would text but u are typing not making any sense...u get no

Erm, what are you trying to say my friend the last sentence is unreadable.. Did your logic drop with this post.. Or is it diminishing due to the sheer fact you have way to many blood clots flowing to your cerebral cortex.. Stop please, I am in no way interested continuing a debate with someone who can't seem to accept their loose{?} But oh wells..
 
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