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Hey, I'm all down for science bro (sis). You seem to misinterpreting my point, i want to find out how much truth is in the 'smell of fear'. I believe it, but to what extent? That's what I wanna do for myself.
It was a misunderstanding then :) . The way you phrased it led me to the wrong assumption.
 

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Don't wanna go all out philosophical on you , but when it comes to science, the truth is just the truth.

But okay I understand what you mean and you are right in wanting to search by yourself. It's the correct approach after all.



Well the heart can be considered a magnetic dipole, that's true. Dipoles exert magnetic forces. So I think I can buy it but the forces will be very very (very) small so of course we can't sense them.

Emotions creating vibrations on the other hand? Mhm I don't see how this could be possible.
Scents, vision, hearing (<obv) ..check that, our whole reality is build and stabilized by vibrational energy. That's if you go to the core..since 99% of an atom consists of empty space, we could assume that empty space is ...energy? sound?
Our reality could be seen as an illusion. And the only governing agency in the field/matter is energy/intention/consciousness.
 

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Scents, vision, hearing (<obv) ..check that, our whole reality is build and stabilized by vibrational energy. That's if you go to the core..since 99% of an atom consists of empty space, we could assume that empty space is ...energy? sound?
Our reality could be seen as an illusion. And the only governing agency in the field/matter is energy/intention/consciousness.
Actually, if I am not mistaken, quantum mechanics say that the empty space you are talking about is just empty space. Quantum mechanics also explain how despite the fact that that empty space exists, matter doesn't dissolve. (it's a whole theory with theorems and blah blah that our beloved Planck invented with the help of our beloved Schrodinger and our beloved Bohr :p )

So yeah, still not buying it. But. Quantum mechanics also say that matter can also be views as a wave. With frequency and all. And that wave has some energy E=fh (beloved Planck again :p ). So maybe I can buy it somehow under this perspective.

( I saw all these while I was staring in awe at my reflection on the computer monitor :D )
 

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Actually, if I am not mistaken, quantum mechanics say that the empty space you are talking about is just empty space. Quantum mechanics also explain how despite the fact that that empty space exists, matter doesn't dissolve. (it's a whole theory with theorems and blah blah that our beloved Planck invented with the help of our beloved Schrodinger and our beloved Bohr :p )

So yeah, still not buying it. But. Quantum mechanics also say that matter can also be views as a wave. With frequency and all. And that wave has some energy E=fh (beloved Planck again :p ). So maybe I can buy it somehow under this perspective.

( I saw all these while I was staring in awe at my reflection on the computer monitor :D )
Saying it's just empty space only makes it clear that that's how far mainstream scientists can go concerning the universe/reality. I'm not familiar with the name Bohr, Schrodinger and Planck though?

At the bolded: Narcissism ftw xD
 

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Saying it's just empty space only makes it clear that that's how far mainstream scientists can go concerning the universe/reality. I'm not familiar with the name Bohr, Schrodinger and Planck though?

At the bolded: Narcissism ftw xD
No no quantum mechanics is anything but mainstream. It actually confronted the mainstream physics that ruled until then.
It was considered crazy and wrong but it got confirmed when the technology improved enough.
Think about it, they supported that you are both matter and wave at the same time! Not mainstream at all.

(Those three are the ones that formed the theory (Shroedinger the mathematics and Planck and Bohr the physics )...around 1930 )
 

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No no quantum mechanics is anything but mainstream. It actually confronted the mainstream physics that ruled until then.
It was considered crazy and wrong but it got confirmed when the technology improved enough.
Think about it, they supported that you are both matter and wave at the same time! Not mainstream at all.

(Those three are the ones that formed the theory (Shroedinger the mathematics and Planck and Bohr the physics )...around 1930 )
I see ^^ Well, I support out-of-the-box science. Sometimes mixed with some spirituality.
But still, about the empty space thing, I think they're neglecting that phenomena by deeming it 'just' empty space.
 

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I see ^^ Well, I support out-of-the-box science. Sometimes mixed with some spirituality.
But still, about the empty space thing, I think they're neglecting that phenomena by deeming it 'just' empty space.
Well this "void" is still being investigated by quantum physicists so apparently the initial theory did indeed have some holes. There are now theories about dark energy and stuff like that. But I am not an expert on the field, so I won't go any further. I am really curious about it though.

(admit it, you totally didn't expect a narcissist of my calibre to bombard you with physics stuff hahahaha )
 

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Can't some animals sense emotions? Emotions are also tied to different chemicals that the body secretes.
Animals have more acute senses. For example, dogs. They don't literally "sense" your emotions as much has they interpret them. When you get scared and your adrenaline gets pumping, you start to sweat and release a stress/fear pheromone, and dogs can smell that. Additionally, they're pretty good at interpreting body language; It also helps that they can hear your heartbeat from a few feet away. Putting 1, 2 and 3 together, they can perceive your fear at a moments glance, they don't literally sense it.
 

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I was reading the other day that the speed of light (in a vacuum) is actually not the fastest that light can travel, (leading on from you empty space discussion) because something calledvacuum energy still exists in a vacuum.

However this vacuum is not the only vacuum that can exist. This vacuum energy can perhaps be changed in certain cases. When vacuum energy is lowered, light itself has been predicted to go faster than the standard value c (3x10^8 m/s).

This is known as the Scharnhorst effect named after klaus Scharnhorst the scientist who proposed it using quantum electrodynamics theory.

A vacuum with a lower vacuum energy can be produced by bringing two perfectly smooth metal plates together at near atomic diameter spacing. This is supposedly called a Casimir vacuum.

Calculations imply that light will go faster in such a vacuum by a minuscule amount: a photon traveling between two plates that are 1 micrometer apart would increase the photon's speed by only about one part in 10^36, a infinitesimal amount, but still an increase!

Sources:

Vacuum energy:

Increase in Photon speed:

Science is fascinating, I read another article the other day about sub atomic particles behaving in a counterintuitive way after being exposed to temperatures a few billionths of a degree BELOW absolute zero. Sounds impossible!

Source:

This is the paper:

This is the article for those who are not so scientifically minded:
 

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Animals have more acute senses. For example, dogs. They don't literally "sense" your emotions as much has they interpret them. When you get scared and your adrenaline gets pumping, you start to sweat and release a stress/fear pheromone, and dogs can smell that. Additionally, they're pretty good at interpreting body language; It also helps that they can hear your heartbeat from a few feet away. Putting 1, 2 and 3 together, they can perceive your fear at a moments glance, they don't literally sense it.
True, basically humans are nothing compared to animals when it comes to senses. Thank god we have a bit of everything and logic on top of that ( having a thumb is also very helpful apparently :D ).
 

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Well this "void" is still being investigated by quantum physicists so apparently the initial theory did indeed have some holes. There are now theories about dark energy and stuff like that. But I am not an expert on the field, so I won't go any further. I am really curious about it though.

(admit it, you totally didn't expect a narcissist of my calibre to bombard you with physics stuff hahahaha )
I'm pleasantly surprised. Indeed..I didn't expect this from you xd but that makes you a more interesting member. The number of people on here that like to debate deep controversial topics isn't more then...20/30 ppl as far as I can recall with all the threads over this past year.

I'm not really interested in naruto-related debates, and most of my threads on topics like this rarely went popular ;p
 

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I'm pleasantly surprised. Indeed..I didn't expect this from you xd but that makes you a more interesting member. The number of people on here that like to debate deep controversial topics isn't more then...20/30 ppl as far as I can recall with all the threads over this past year.

I'm not really interested in naruto-related debates, and most of my threads on topics like this rarely went popular ;p
Don't flatter me, I am already too arrogant :D
 

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Well this may be inappropriate for me to say but I can rather sensitive to female scents and that is kinda verified . . . . . As for other scents I dont know If I ever smelt fear but I certainly kinda felt it in the air in crowded bus when it was under attack . . . .
 
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I was reading the other day that the speed of light (in a vacuum) is actually not the fastest that light can travel, (leading on from you empty space discussion) because something calledvacuum energy still exists in a vacuum.

However this vacuum is not the only vacuum that can exist. This vacuum energy can perhaps be changed in certain cases. When vacuum energy is lowered, light itself has been predicted to go faster than the standard value c (3x10^8 m/s).

This is known as the Scharnhorst effect named after klaus Scharnhorst the scientist who proposed it using quantum electrodynamics theory.

A vacuum with a lower vacuum energy can be produced by bringing two perfectly smooth metal plates together at near atomic diameter spacing. This is supposedly called a Casimir vacuum.

Calculations imply that light will go faster in such a vacuum by a minuscule amount: a photon traveling between two plates that are 1 micrometer apart would increase the photon's speed by only about one part in 10^36, a infinitesimal amount, but still an increase!

Sources:

Vacuum energy:

Increase in Photon speed:

Science is fascinating, I read another article the other day about sub atomic particles behaving in a counterintuitive way after being exposed to temperatures a few billionths of a degree BELOW absolute zero. Sounds impossible!

Source:

This is the paper:

This is the article for those who are not so scientifically minded:
thx for the links and nice read. ^_^
 

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I was reading the other day that the speed of light (in a vacuum) is actually not the fastest that light can travel, (leading on from you empty space discussion) because something calledvacuum energy still exists in a vacuum.

However this vacuum is not the only vacuum that can exist. This vacuum energy can perhaps be changed in certain cases. When vacuum energy is lowered, light itself has been predicted to go faster than the standard value c (3x10^8 m/s).

This is known as the Scharnhorst effect named after klaus Scharnhorst the scientist who proposed it using quantum electrodynamics theory.

A vacuum with a lower vacuum energy can be produced by bringing two perfectly smooth metal plates together at near atomic diameter spacing. This is supposedly called a Casimir vacuum.

Calculations imply that light will go faster in such a vacuum by a minuscule amount: a photon traveling between two plates that are 1 micrometer apart would increase the photon's speed by only about one part in 10^36, a infinitesimal amount, but still an increase!

Sources:

Vacuum energy:

Increase in Photon speed:

Science is fascinating, I read another article the other day about sub atomic particles behaving in a counterintuitive way after being exposed to temperatures a few billionths of a degree BELOW absolute zero. Sounds impossible!

Source:

This is the paper:

This is the article for those who are not so scientifically minded:
Hmmm sometimes makes u think of the possibility if matter itself was in a sense 'alive' . . . .
 
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