Naruto is the strongest(not because he is the main character)

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Naruto launched his rasenshuriken. And since aiming isnt necessary, his clones just have to make them. CBT would then suck all the rasenshurikens(numbering in the thousands, maybe more) up and it would be destroyed.
rasenshurikens only won't do the trick.... naruto needed the help of itachi and bee's attacks to break the CBT.
 

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who said 25 clones? madara can absorb chakra from the ten tails and make the same amount of clones as the rasenshurikens. Obito will just slip through them.
Obito can only slip through them for 5 minutes. After that, he becomes vulnerable. I'm not sure if Madara can take chakra from the juubi, but if he can, then ok, I have lost this debate. :p
 

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Yes, but only the user. What if half of the clones threw their rasenshurikens at the juubi then? They would have to move to absorb it. Also, naruto in bujuu mode can make 2 rasenshurikens(strong enough to cut through the juubi tails) per person.
juubi's skin is like the gedo mazo's. the rasenshurikens would look like ants in front of the juubi.
 

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rasenshurikens only won't do the trick.... naruto needed the help of itachi and bee's attacks to break the CBT.
It is the power that matters. Thousands of rasenshurikens definitely have the same, or more power than 1 rasenshuriken and 1 bijuu dama(from the hachibi). I can't comment on Yasaka because we've not seen its power aside from that.
 

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Naruto has potentiallt limitless chakra. Chakra is not a problem for him. Shinra tensei blows his clones back, he replaces them. And we're talking thousands of clones, letting them feel around the area and the chameleon would get caught in no time. About the gedo statue, can it absorb ninjutsu? If not, then again thousands of rasenshuriken would demolish it. As a last resort, naruto unleashes the kyuubi. At 8 tails, CBT was broken through with only brute force. 9 tails Nagato cannot do anything to stop him.
1. Naruto has been shown to run out of chakra, and once he does he' helpless. If you think that he can create the amount of clones you're describing without losing chakra before nagato (who also has an amazing chakra reserve) then you are severely overrating naruto's strength...

2. Chameleon moves, nagato isnt dumb enough to let naruto find him in his summon, he will be well away from the area, letting his summons and CBT do the work

3. Not the gedo statue, the soul dragon...Which a) naruto has never seen, so if he touches it and b) isnt made up of chakra so it will phase through anything (including clones) and c) is when absorbing its souls, so naruto wont even have time to react...If nagato uses the gedo statue then naruto is dead...

4. Nagato on his could have made the CBT large enough to capture an 8 tails naruto...Healthy nagato can easily make a CBT twice as big...Given the ammount of chakra/lifeforce that he's diminished over his life and the battle...

Yes, but only the user. What if half of the clones threw their rasenshurikens at the juubi then? They would have to move to absorb it. Also, naruto in bujuu mode can make 2 rasenshurikens(strong enough to cut through the juubi tails) per person.
The juubi withstood a nuke sized tbb from inside of its own stomach...He flicked bee's tbb like a fly, lol. Rasenshurikens will be breakfast for him

I also wanna ask you a question, If naruto can make so many clones then tell me why he isnt doing that currently?? He isnt because its either useless or he cant without wasting a metric ton of chakra
 
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Before the flashbacks started, naruto's rasenshuriken was shown to be strong enough to slice through the juubi's tails. That was 1 rasenshuriken, multiply that by the thousands and the juubi would be wounded.
Please give a picture to when naruto sliced one of juubi's tail.
so you really think that madara and obito will sit and watch juubi being wounded. I do not think the juubi can be wounded that easily. Even 1000 rasengans did not wound the nine tails so imagine the juubi.
 

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1. Naruto has been shown to run out of chakra, and once he does he' helpless. If you think that he can create the amount of clones you're describing without losing chakra before nagato (who also has an amazing chakra reserve) then you are severely overrating naruto's strength...

2. Chameleon moves, nagato isnt dumb enough to let naruto find him in his summon, he will be well away from the area, letting his summons and CBT do the work

3. Not the gedo statue, the soul dragon...Which a) naruto has never seen, so if he touches it and b) isnt made up of chakra so it will phase through anything (including clones) and c) is when absorbing its souls, so naruto wont even have time to react...If nagato uses the gedo statue then naruto is dead...

4. Nagato on his could have made the CBT large enough to capture an 8 tails naruto...Healthy nagato can easily make a CBT twice as big...Given the ammount of chakra/lifeforce that he's diminished over his life and the battle...
1. He's currently doing pretty well in the war. His chakra, if diminished, can be restored very quickly, as shown when he reactivated his bijuu cloak after draining his chakra a while ago.

2. His clones can fan out too. He has numbers on his side. CBT absorbs the rasenshurikens and gets destroyed.

3. Are you sure he can summon the gedo statue like that? Isn't that like a one-off thingy?

4. We don't know that. Healthy nagato did not create a CBT twice as big when he fought itachi, bee and naruto.
 

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They are controlling it, not taking chakra from it. If anything it is them that have to put chakra in to control the juubi(using hashirama's cells).
you think that the juubi itself does not have chakra ? obito is using juubi's chakra to do the wood techniques. they need to use their own chakra to keep the juubi in control or else it would go berserk but it does not mean that they do not take it's chakra.
 

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you think that the juubi itself does not have chakra ? obito is using juubi's chakra to do the wood techniques. they need to use their own chakra to keep the juubi in control or else it would go berserk but it does not mean that they do not take it's chakra.
Ok then, naruto is the strongest AFTER madara, obito and hashirama. How about that? Good debate though.
 

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1. He's currently doing pretty well in the war. His chakra, if diminished, can be restored very quickly, as shown when he reactivated his bijuu cloak after draining his chakra a while ago.

2. His clones can fan out too. He has numbers on his side. CBT absorbs the rasenshurikens and gets destroyed.

3. Are you sure he can summon the gedo statue like that? Isn't that like a one-off thingy?

4. We don't know that. Healthy nagato did not create a CBT twice as big when he fought itachi, bee and naruto.
1. Naruto's chakra doesnt restore quickly, He has been out of kurama's chakra from chapter 611, page 8 - chapter 615, page 18. That is 4 chapters and in that time CBT can obliterate him :|

2. Show me a scan of naruto using more than 2 rasenshurikens at a time... Stop assuming that he has enough chakra to use 1000 clones, and have 1000 rasenshurikens ready to go for every CBT that nagato throws...

3. Like i said this is his last resort, he will use this at the cost of his chakra and lifeforce, but he can use it just as much as Itachi and obito can use izanagi/izanami.

4. Healthy nagato didnt have time to create a CBT big enough. You saw deva paths words, he said he can make a bigger CBT. Nagato was drained of chakra (white hair) so its common knowledge that he will have enough now to make a significantly bigger CBT
 

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Madara, Obito, Hashi and Nagato are still stronger than him :|
Nagato and Obito aren't stronger than Naruto.


Nagato......well this guy explained it clearly



As for Obito, Naruto already raped his Bijuus and Kurama can take care of Gedo Mazo. All Obito can do without Gedo Mazo is shield himself from attacks with Kamui, that's not winning a fight if you have to staying on the defense.
What does Nagato even have to put Naruto down?

-His Gedo control is inferior to Obito's due to the lack of Senju DNA.
-Chibaku Tensei is effortlessly destroyed by Bijuu Dama.
-CST is easily tanked by Naruto's Kurama cloak as it withstood a Juubi laser and Naruto himself took no damage. Since CST isn't going to do any damage to Naruto himself any lower scale ST won't either.
-Preta to absorb his cloak is his only chance, but that's if Nagato even manages to lay a hand on him, that also leaves him wide open for an attack by Naruto's SM Clones.

Nagato can't beat Naruto.
 
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