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Hashirama Senjuu

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Not really as Kakashi and Team 10 dodged it with no problem at all.



Everything in the bold is shit that has already been countered. Don't make a thread when you can't even back up the nonsense you put in it.

no it hasn't been countered. Still waiting for your evidence.

And yes you are stupid. Your saying that because it was dodged it doesn't cover the battlefield? Well I guess dust release doesn't either.
 

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no it hasn't been countered. Still waiting for your evidence.

And yes you are stupid. Your saying that because it was dodged it doesn't cover the battlefield? Well I guess dust release doesn't either.
@bold: What a massive retard. If it covered the whole battlefield or most of it they wouldn't have been able to evade it dumbass.

Jinton covers more area than Kakuzu's Jutsu. Manga fact. If you don't like it then go read a different manga.

Yes it has. Earth being strong against Water doesn't nullify the explosive properties of the blast. Domu and Enma are both as hard as Diamond yet Enma was worried the Kusanagi Blade could hurt him. Joki Boy's explosion does more damage than the Kusanagi so Domu isn't tanking multiple explosions.

You are the one who started the thread in the first place yet you neglect to back up your claims. Pathetic. When you actually have facts and nor your made up bs get back to me.
 

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@bold: What a massive retard. If it covered the whole battlefield or most of it they wouldn't have been able to evade it dumbass.

Jinton covers more area than Kakuzu's Jutsu. Manga fact. If you don't like it then go read a different manga.

Yes it has. Earth being strong against Water doesn't nullify the explosive properties of the blast. Domu and Enma are both as hard as Diamond yet Enma was worried the Kusanagi Blade could hurt him. Joki Boy's explosion does more damage than the Kusanagi so Domu isn't tanking multiple explosions.

You are the one who started the thread in the first place yet you neglect to back up your claims. Pathetic. When you actually have facts and nor your made up bs get back to me.

I do have facts. You dont. You cant prove that he cant tank joki boy. I have more proof than you saying he can.

And u made up that joki boy does more damage then the blade of kusanagi. Oh my look at you and your silly answers. Hah. The explosion isnt getting through as his skin is as hard as diamond. Plus as I've said so many times.. Btw this is a fact unlike all your bull shit. Earth>water
 
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Steam is what explodes out of joki boy, steam Is WATER, your so stupid..joki boy won't hurt kakuzu.
I also went through both of these guys to make this thread. I know that his jutsu covers more area than the clams mist. If you dont believe me then you can go back and look.

P.s. I'll sit here and argue with you all day if i have to. Mizukags isn't winning. Kakuzu is his worst matchup.

Actually bro hate to say this but steam is its on type of Jutsu... Steam Release

@bold: What a massive retard. If it covered the whole battlefield or most of it they wouldn't have been able to evade it dumbass.

Jinton covers more area than Kakuzu's Jutsu. Manga fact. If you don't like it then go read a different manga.

Yes it has. Earth being strong against Water doesn't nullify the explosive properties of the blast. Domu and Enma are both as hard as Diamond yet Enma was worried the Kusanagi Blade could hurt him. Joki Boy's explosion does more damage than the Kusanagi so Domu isn't tanking multiple explosions.

You are the one who started the thread in the first place yet you neglect to back up your claims. Pathetic. When you actually have facts and nor your made up bs get back to me.

And Enma is only hard as diamond When He is in the staff form ...

** Kakashi and team ten did not dodge it also ... They were saved By yamato's and naurto's Water And Wind Technique
 
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I do have facts. You dont. You cant prove that he cant tank joki boy. I have more proof than you saying he can.

Even though I actually do agree with you on your original post (Kakuzu could beat the trollkage) It is not up to KidGamer65 to prove that Kakuzu can't tank Joki boys explosion, it's up to you because you claimed that he could tank it...

KidGamer65 don't need to prove a negative... You have to provide evidence for your claim here.

Just like, If I Said that the Lock Ness Monster existed, and you said "I don't believe it does" I can't just say:

Well Prove to me that the Lock Ness Monster dosen't exist then!!!

In this senario I put forth "the claim that the lock ness monster existed" so it's up to me to prove that it actually does (Just for the record I don't belief it does, Im just trying to make a point here)

So it is you "Hashirama Senjuu" that have to prove that Kakuzu can indeed do what you claim can do "tank joki boys explosion" and not up to anyone body else to disproof your claim.

The burden of proof is on the guy (or girl) that "claimes" something.
 
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Even though I actually do agree with you on your original post (Kakuzu could beat the trollkage) It is not up to KidGamer65 to prove that Kakuzu can't tank Joki boys explosion, it's up to you because you claimed that he could tank it...

KidGamer65 don't need to prove a negative... You have to provide evidence for your claim here.

Just like, If I Said that the Lock Ness Monster existed, and you said "I don't believe it does" I can't just say:

Well Prove to me that the Lock Ness Monster dosen't exist then!!!

In this senario I put forth "the claim that the lock ness monster existed" so it's up to me to prove that it actually does (Just for the record I don't belief it does, Im just trying to make a point here)

So it is you "Hashirama Senjuu" that have to prove that Kakuzu can indeed do what you claim can do "tank joki boys explosion" and not up to anyone body else to disproof your claim.

The burden of proof is on the guy (or girl) that "claimes" something.
I did proove it? Many times.

Earth trumphs water.
Earth spear>joki boy

We dont know its melting point so we cant say it melts through.

It makes his skin as hard as diamond on the other hand and diamond > sand
Gaaras sand blocked it so earth spear can.

There's my proof.
 
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You and the OP made the claim that multiple Joki Boy explosions are tanked by Domu. You also said that Kakuzu has shown more than enough feats to tank it yet haven't shown me these supposed feats. When you make ridiculous claims like Domu can tank multiple Joki Boy explosions with no damage at all when Kakuzu has shown no defensive feats that allow anyone to say he can tank Joki boy with no damage over and over again its wise to back up those ridiculous claims.

I said that multiple explosions will break through Domu.


Domu and Enma in his Adamantine form were both said to be as hard as diamond and the latter was worried Kusanagi could hurt him and you expect me to believe he will tank multiple Joki Boy explosions with no damage at all? Not a chance. Kakuzu may be able to survive one explosion due to his skin begin reinforced by Domu,but that doesn't mean that the masks (more specifically the Earth mask) will be protected from the explosion. Multiple Explosions either shatter the mask on his back first or get past his defense.

Still waiting for these so called feats Kakuzu has that you spoke of..

Next time you take so long to reply, at least notify me so I don't forget.

Kakuzu has shown no defensive feats that allow anyone to say he can tank Joki boy with no damage over and over again
Still waiting for these so called feats Kakuzu has that you spoke of..

This shall be enough:



JB's explosion is not known for it's destructive feats, Hashirama Senjuu stated it didn't affect the environment, you seemed to of ignored that.

I said that multiple explosions will break through Domu.

Irrelevant, where is your evidence? the only thing that has broken through the Earth spear was a Raiton technique.

You also ignored Hashirama Senjuu when he said " Earth style>Suiton" which is true and valid in this case.
I'm not going to patronize you, you should know this stuff.

ts wise to back up those ridiculous claims.

I believe the pot is calling the kettle black in this instance...

Domu and Enma in his Adamantine form were both said to be as hard as diamond and the latter was worried Kusanagi could hurt him and you expect me to believe he will tank multiple Joki Boy explosions with no damage at all? Not a chance. Kakuzu may be able to survive one explosion due to his skin begin reinforced by Domu,but that doesn't mean that the masks (more specifically the Earth mask) will be protected from the explosion. Multiple Explosions either shatter the mask on his back first or get past his defense.

You are comparing a ledgendary piercing sword, to a relatively weak explosion? Where is the logic or relevance in that?





Enma stated that the legendary sword would "Hurt" he never stated that it would pierce the armor.

In fact, we can infer that there is no way possible that one JB explosion would pierce his armor, let alone multiple.

And you also appear to be wildly speculating at how the masks will somehow be destroyed under the armor, when has this ever happened, ever?

You really are a flawed debater, you are clutching at straws, you haven't got a leg to stand on right now and are making several illogical, baseless points and speculations.

*Beep beep* I hear the school bus Jimmy.

Even though I actually do agree with you on your original post (Kakuzu could beat the trollkage) It is not up to KidGamer65 to prove that Kakuzu can't tank Joki boys explosion, it's up to you because you claimed that he could tank it...

KidGamer65 don't need to prove a negative... You have to provide evidence for your claim here.

Just like, If I Said that the Lock Ness Monster existed, and you said "I don't believe it does" I can't just say:

Well Prove to me that the Lock Ness Monster dosen't exist then!!!

In this senario I put forth "the claim that the lock ness monster existed" so it's up to me to prove that it actually does (Just for the record I don't belief it does, Im just trying to make a point here)

So it is you "Hashirama Senjuu" that have to prove that Kakuzu can indeed do what you claim can do "tank joki boys explosion" and not up to anyone body else to disproof your claim.

The burden of proof is on the guy (or girl) that "claimes" something.

I like that little Loch ness reference, let me tell you I have seen Nesse in the flesh...

Kid Gamer is baseless in his arguments as he inferred it could break through the earth spear technique, which hasn't been broken through by anything except a Raiton technique.

With no evidence to back up such claims, his point is moot, we win
 
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I like that little Loch ness reference, let me tell you I have seen Nesse in the flesh...

And I have seen Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny...

can we get serious now?

Kid Gamer is baseless in his arguments as he inferred it could break through the earth spear technique, which hasn't been broken through by anything except a Raiton technique.

With no evidence to back up such claims, his point is moot, we win

the thing is, Hashirama says that Kakuzu can tank joki boy explosion (I personally believe he can do that aswell, but it's irelevant what I believe, all that matters is what can be proven) and all Hashirama have said so far is that the skin gets hardenened to a point where it's as strong/hard as diamond and that earth > water.

And lastely it's not Kid Gamer that have to prove that Joki Boy explosion can penetrade Kakuzus technique, but hashirama (and you) that have to prove that Kakuzu can tank the explosion, because it was you 2 that said he could do it.
 

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I agree with this. Kakuzu > 2nd Mizukage.
 

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Well, I guess Kakuzu can beat TrollKage then due to Domu, though its best defensive feat is tanking Choji's roll out.

Note: Just joking. lmao.
 
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..... Isnt he all water style which is basically useless against kakuzu ... And genjutsu really is as well due to the fact his hearts woulc keep fighting .. the 2nd mizukage uses the hydrifaction technique does he not? which means lightning style is super effective haha ( forgive the pokemon phrase) Which kakuzu has ..
 

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Lol Kakuzu is def not worthy of being top 10, but it would be a close one between him and 2nd Mizukage for sure...
 

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I still think that is pretty lame the whole Domu > any water jutsu, even more being one OP as hell as jouki boy. People trust the databooks (proved wrong many times) and narutopedia way too much.
 

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Tell me you are joking man, you had this guy. Any way, 2nd mizukage will definitely beat kakuzu.

Naw, I was just being sarcastic, I forgot that sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet.
 
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Tell me you are joking man, you had this guy. Any way, 2nd mizukage will definitely beat kakuzu.

Oh please do counter.

KidGamer has conceded, and I respect him for that.

He never 'had' me, unless you are talking about Hashirama Senjuu.
 
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