Tbb op?

[Mystery God]

Weak enough to kill hachibi, and unlike mountais failed to eveporate some water along with half fodder suigetsu.I actually never saw anything ablaze after it.Can be deflected by anything at the right angle. Even at frontal impact failed to explode over 5 rashoumon gates and was completely stopped by barrier over turtle island.This is largely irrelevant since no effective data for anything so far.

1. Suigetsu didn't completely endure the attack. He had to be healed by Karin in some sort of container. Also, a TBB from Hachibi is not as strong as Kurama's.
2. Minato admitted it. Meaning Kishi told us that. Don't strain your mind.
3. The TBB which almost killed Orochimaru while destroying his 5 rashoumon gates was from 4-tails Naruto. Still, nothing compared to Kurama's. The barrier over turtle island was set by the Kages and Shikaku. It was the only one they had that could counter a TBB, still they broke it with the help of TBB. Here again it was not a full powered TBB.
4. This is what we know so far, so don't be greedy.

In all these cases, we see that the strongest version of TBB was not used, which is unfair in my opinion. Don't be ignorant my friend.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Then fuk off if ur so pissed. TBB looks great on paper but it fails to kill important characters.
It wont take naruto down it wont take PS down neither susanoo of itachi or sasuke. Now prove me wrong! Oh wait u cant! Feats are against TBB

You really think an attack that can destroy a country can't beat Sasuke and Itachi's Susano'o? Yeah, suuuure.

 

[AlphaScythian]

You really think an attack that can destroy a country can't beat Sasuke and Itachi's Susano'o? Yeah, suuuure.

I really dont know what countries are ur talking about, must be vatican or monaco. No TBB destroyed countries FFS overhyping it too much already. If naruto tanked all and any TBB including that of juubi, why wont much denser and solid/rigid chakra of susanoo do the same? Give some logical reason, im waiting!

 

[Turson]

What do u want me to say? Yeah it looks OP, yeah it would wipe cities fodders even budda of hashi, but if it cant take naruto down, more likely it wont take susanoos either. So what is it good for DBZ?

Nope, its a powerful technique. Orochimaru said that a miniature TBB from KM4 Naruto would kill him for sure. Now, we are talking about a guy who took whole barrage of Tsunades punches and was cut in half and was only smiling afterwards. Easily one of the most difficult to kill characters in manga.

If naruto tanked all and any TBB including that of juubi, why wont much denser and solid/rigid chakra of susanoo do the same? Give some logical reason, im waiting!

I really dont think that defence of Sasukes current Susanoo is even close to Narutos full Bijuu form.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Nope, its a powerful technique. Orochimaru said that a miniature TBB from KM4 Naruto would kill him for sure. Now, we are talking about a guy who took whole barrage of Tsunades punches and was cut in half and was only smiling afterwards. Easily one of the most difficult to kill characters in manga.

Look u think its OP, it looks OP but it doesnt prove itself to be OP.
We will have to disagree here cuz i have another criteria for OP.
And what oro said is no concrete, lots of stuff been said and was wrong.

 

[Turson]

And what oro said is no concrete, lots of stuff been said and was wrong.

Yet Oro had no reason to lie. He wasnt even talking to anybody, he was thinking to himself.

We will have to disagree here cuz i have another criteria for OP.

So... is any single technique in this manga is even OP for you?

 

[AlphaScythian]

Yet Oro had no reason to lie. He wasnt even talking to anybody, he was thinking to himself.

Im not saying oro was lying, but he cant know for sure unless he tries, so far he survived everything. Suigetsu also thought he was gonna die, and look he lives.

So... is any single technique in this manga is even OP for you?

Powerful seals that of death god, gedo mazo soul eating dragon, somewhat totsuka. Kirin seems to be OP, its raw nature energy combined with most piercing attack, its like raikri of juubi, PS slash seems to cut anything. But all those techniques weren't put to the test enough, so they look OP so far. TBB was tested enough, and i am not impressed.
But hey thats just me.

 

[Turson]

Im not saying oro was lying, but he cant know for sure unless he tries, so far he survived everything. Suigetsu also thought he was gonna die, and look he lives.

I guess Oro knows best how durable he is. Moreover, that was miniature TBB, not full scale TBB and yet Oro was sure that he would die during impact. Besides, Sugietsu never said that hes gonna die.

Powerful seals that of death god, gedo mazo soul eating dragon, somewhat totsuka. Kirin seems to be OP, its raw nature energy combined with most piercing attack, its like raikri of juubi, PS slash seems to cut anything. But all those techniques weren't put to the test enough, so they look OP so far.

Personally, I dont see how any of these techniques are stronger than TBB, specially Kirin.

 

[Midday]

TBB is waste of chakra. It failed on so many occasions. Sometimes it doesnt even explode. SUIGETSU TANKED IT.
But TBB>mokuton

Barely surviving an attack isn't tanking one. He needed a lake of water to do that and was almost dead after getting hit.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Personally, I dont see how any of these techniques are stronger than TBB, specially Kirin.

They get the job done, more likely then not.

Barely surviving an attack isn't tanking one. He needed a lake of water to do that and was almost dead after getting hit.

I dont see how summarising what he has done changes things. Suigetsu was on the top of some water dome(not lake) with his upper body unprotected. For a small water made dude he survived point blank TBB. Say what u like. Either suigetsu is OP, either TBB is not. I think its the latter

 

[Turson]

They get the job done, more likely then not.

PS slash seems to have comparable power to TBB, and going by your logic, it didnt kill anyone. Kirin destroyed a hill (not mountain) and was tanked by Susanoo.

 

[AlphaScythian]

PS slash seems to have comparable power to TBB, and going by your logic, it didnt kill anyone. Kirin destroyed a hill (not mountain) and was tanked by Susanoo.

I said PS slash seems to cut anything. Now cutting everything in half even if that anything survives, would still be better then TBB.
Yes itachi survived kirin, susanoo has not, susanoo of madara wasnt scratched by TBB. But susanoo arguable best defence there is, and that kirin was made of just a couple clouds. Now picture perfect storm.

 

[Draphsin]

Yeah of course, but is it the most OP technique seen? Not by a long shot

 

[Turson]

I said PS slash seems to cut anything. Now cutting everything in half even if that anything survives, would still be better then TBB.

It cut though mountain, TBB annihilates mountains so I dont see how PS slash is stronger.

and that kirin was made of just a couple clouds. Now picture perfect storm.

It wasnt just couple of clouds, the whole sky was clouded. TBB is on whole other other level compared to Kirin when it comes to power, Kirin is just much faster.

 

[YellowFang]

Yeah, it's a variable power weapon with multiple execution methods...
It's power can be increased to point where a joint TBB from 5 Bijuus can easily be negated by a single one...

Since, it's like a nuke... no matter what type of defense is used, it surely makes impact...

Till now,
TBB's max. level is shown to be able to easily blow up a mountain range comprising several mounts...
And the max. level of defense that has shown to be able to withstand it is, Susanoo-Cloaked Kurama(guarding it's own average TBB)...

 

[AlphaScythian]

It cut though mountain, TBB annihilates mountains so I dont see how PS slash is stronger.

Well, id say PS slash would cut hachibi in half, not sure if its fatal but looks better then what TBB did.

It wasnt just couple of clouds, the whole sky was clouded. TBB is on whole other other level compared to Kirin when it comes to power, Kirin is just much faster.

Well then look again. There were only some clouds over stronghold. Kirin is raiton, and has most piercing capacity. Its raw narute energy puts it above SM techiques. Also its concentrated and has one vector, unlike TBB that wastes its energy in every direction and actual target only absorbs like 25% of it if not less, depends on situation.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Of course it's OP. I hope you guys understand that Naruto's fighting the damn Juubi, who makes his TBB look like a playground. What do you want him to do? End the Juubi with a TBB? Come on. It's clearly one of the most OP jutsu in the manga, no doubt about it.

 

[TheCCV]

Dafuq? How can i suppose to see u even i don't know who u are.
Better with ignorant kid, u don't know what that means do u? Well, i can let u find it out.....,,

You sound really stupid.

And no, it's not op. it a fair attack for any of the 9/10 beasts of the series.

 

[Turson]

Well, id say PS slash would cut hachibi in half, not sure if its fatal but looks better then what TBB did.

When was PS slash used against Hachibi?

There were only some clouds over stronghold.

That were created form the heat of Sasukes Katons and sh*tload of Amaterasu around the fortress. That was the max that shinobi can perform by their own.

Kirin is raiton, and has most piercing capacity.

It has? I didnt notice. It works just like TBB, but it destroyed hill only, whereas avarage TBB can destroy mountain. Those techniques arent on the same level.

 

[Rike Senju]

Yea I believe TBB is pretty OP. Especially the one kurama made to match the other five tbbs'.