Can rinnegan cast/break genjutsu?

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Oh my god you really think you're right dont you...? sad, really U_U

I already said that nagato needs to cast genjutsu on someone else in order to break free.....You cant disrupt your own chakra.....Sasuke cant break free of jiraiya's genjutsu by himself, tell me how he can? Sound based genjutsu works the same for all dojutsu users, fact. Show me a scan stating otherwise...

LOOL you actually think you're right thats the sad thing those paths of pain are "someone else"

or did you not remember those paths of pain were other people? That already have those rods attached!

according to you those rods are capable of casting genjutsu, if so the original nagato is able to cast it at his wish

if hes using and controlling somebody else and using them as a path of pain why not cast this genjutsu and disrupt jiraiyas genjutsu

ill tell you why because its not genjutsu hes controlling them through his own chakra and so cannot cast a genjutsu and like you said you cant cast a genjutsu on yourself and so once those rods are in you he takes over and he BECOMES THEM!!
 

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Well I'm done here. I've prove you wrong countless of times but yet you keep thinking you're right. Anyway 'The God' is still proving you wrong so I don't need to be here. I'll be back soon to see what other fail arguments you try to pull.

LOOL no no im done
 

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Actually one last thing before I go, he isn't using the rods on himself now is he? He is using it on another person. That person may be using his chakra but as that chakra is in another body he can disrupt it as it's not in himself which means he can break them out of genjutsu using the genjutsu on the rods, but he can't use genjutsu through the rods, so no you're wrong.

This is the most retarded thing you have posted yet....You are so wrong its not even funny....His chakra is his chakra, it doesnt make a difference if he transmits it to another body...Does it magically "change" into another type of chakra before it transmits...? because if you think thats the case then you seriously are moronic.

How can you seriously argue that Nagato's chakra is different once he transmits it to another body........? Please quit now, you have nothing more to contribute to this topic as I have shot down your petty rebuttals over, and over again :whip:

LOOL you actually think you're right thats the sad thing those paths of pain are "someone else"

or did you not remember those paths of pain were other people? That already have those rods attached!

according to you those rods are capable of casting genjutsu, if so the original nagato is able to cast it at his wish

if hes using and controlling somebody else and using them as a path of pain why not cast this genjutsu and disrupt jiraiyas genjutsu

ill tell you why because its not genjutsu hes controlling them through his own chakra and so cannot cast a genjutsu and like you said you cant cast a genjutsu on yourself and so once those rods are in you he takes over and he BECOMES THEM!!

Bro, learn some grammar skills, Im only answering the bold because thats the only part i understand properly....

It doesnt matter if they're corpses or not, Its HIS CHAKRA(for the 50th time explaining it to you people) He cant disrupt HIS OWN CHAKRA to break free of sound based genjutsu

The chakra transmitters transmit HIS CHAKRA to the paths. So if genjutsu is cast on him then he needs to disrupt SOMEBODY ELSE'S chakra via genjutsu in order to escape
 
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This is the most retarded thing you have posted yet....You are so wrong its not even funny....His chakra is his chakra, it doesnt make a difference if he transmits it to another body...Does it magically "change" into another type of chakra before it transmits...? because if you think thats the case then you seriously are moronic.

How can you seriously argue that Nagato's chakra is different once he transmits it to another body........? Please quit now, you have nothing more to contribute to this topic as I have shot down your petty rebuttals over, and over again :whip:

You really are dumb. So you're saying just because it's your own chakra you can't disrupt it? What about the training Jiraiya did with Naruto to help him break out of genjutsu himself? Now imagine how easy that would be with a clone disrupting Naruto's chakra, but wait it's his own chakra? That don't matter a single bit, it's still in another person making him able to disrupt it.

Edit: It's the same with Nagato, it may be his chakra but it's in another person so he can disrupt it and actually I believe he can disrupt his own even inside himself just like Naruto could thanks to Jiraiya.
 

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You really are dumb. So you're saying just because it's your own chakra you can't disrupt it? What about the training Jiraiya did with Naruto to help him break out of genjutsu himself? Now imagine how easy that would be with a clone disrupting Naruto's chakra, but wait it's his own chakra? That don't matter a single bit, it's still in another person making him able to disrupt it.

Edit: It's the same with Nagato, it may be his chakra but it's in another person so he can disrupt it and actually I believe he can disrupt his own even inside himself just like Naruto could thanks to Jiraiya.

OH MY GOD...........Are you even reading my responses???? Jesus christ If you're going to argue, then at least have the decency to read what the other person has to say...It actually just makes you look ignorant and foolish when you dont :|

I said sound based genjutsu is different. You cant disrupt your own chakra in a sound based genjutsu....

Please stop, you're embarrassing yourself
 
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OH MY GOD...........Are you even reading my responses????

I said sound based genjutsu is different. You cant disrupt your own chakra in a sound based genjutsu....

Please stop, you're embarrassing yourself

Actually I'm not, your the only person here thinking it's a genjutsu, so seriously stop trying to prove me wrong when you are the one who is wrong. By the way, as said before if you send a genjutsu to counter the sound genjutsu like with Sasuke and Itachi then it will cancel it. They are both two different people and they may be using the same chakra but that don't mean Nagato can't use a genjutsu on the people he is controlling.
 

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This is the most retarded thing you have posted yet....You are so wrong its not even funny....His chakra is his chakra, it doesnt make a difference if he transmits it to another body...Does it magically "change" into another type of chakra before it transmits...? because if you think thats the case then you seriously are moronic.

How can you seriously argue that Nagato's chakra is different once he transmits it to another body........? Please quit now, you have nothing more to contribute to this topic as I have shot down your petty rebuttals over, and over again :whip:



Bro, learn some grammar skills, Im only answering the bold because thats the only part i understand properly....

It doesnt matter if they're corpses or not, Its HIS CHAKRA(for the 50th time explaining it to you people) He cant disrupt HIS OWN CHAKRA to break free of sound based genjutsu

The chakra transmitters transmit HIS CHAKRA to the paths. So if genjutsu is cast on him then he needs to disrupt SOMEBODY ELSE'S chakra via genjutsu in order to escape

Nah bro, you understood perfectly and you realised i used your own points against you and so you ignored it again.

Long story short its not genjutsu

Nagato is one person, those rods allow him to be 6 people simultaneously

If it was genjutsu he wouldnt be those 6 people simultaneously as those paths of pain would still have their own original chakra signature and nagato would be able to cast this supposed "genjutsu" on the paths of pain to escape Jiraiyas genjutsu

But like you said you cant cast a genjutsu on yourself which means you acknowledge the fact that nagato is 6 people simultaneously via the rods
 

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Nah bro, you understood perfectly and you realised i used your own points against you and so you ignored it again.

Long story short its not genjutsu

Nagato is one person, those rods allow him to be 6 people simultaneously

If it was genjutsu he wouldnt be those 6 people simultaneously as those paths of pain would still have their own original chakra signature and nagato would be able to cast this supposed "genjutsu" on the paths of pain to escape Jiraiyas genjutsu

But like you said you cant cast a genjutsu on yourself which means you acknowledge the fact that nagato is 6 people simultaneously via the rods

DOES NAGATO HAVE 6 DIFFERENT TYPES OF CHAKRA???????

You prove nothing because nagato is 6 bodies yes, but he only possesses 1 type of chakra (corpses dont possess chakra, and you would be a moron for thinking otherwise)....So you are wrong, again ;)
 
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DOES NAGATO HAVE 6 DIFFERENT TYPES OF CHAKRA???????

You prove nothing because nagato is 6 bodies yes, but he only possesses 1 type of chakra (corpses dont possess chakra, and you yould be a moron for thinking otherwise)....So you are wrong, again ;)

For .... sake. You are so dumb and probably trolling now because no one is as dumb as you have shown to be. Nagato controls people with the rods, he does not use genjutsu with them if he did he could have used them to place a counter genjutsu on his paths, the paths are not Nagato and Nagato was not placed in a genjutsu. It does not matter that Nagato and the paths are using the same chakra, it has never said you can't disrupt someone's chakra even if they are using your own, wouldn't that make it easier?
 

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For .... sake. You are so dumb and probably trolling now because no one is as dumb as you have shown to be. Nagato controls people with the rods, he does not use genjutsu with them if he did he could have used them to place a counter genjutsu on his paths, the paths are not Nagato and Nagato was not placed in a genjutsu. It does not matter that Nagato and the paths are using the same chakra, it has never said you can't disrupt someone's chakra even if they are using your own, wouldn't that make it easier?

yeh he knows hes wrong not worth replying to now LOL
 

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yeh he knows hes wrong not worth replying to now LOL

Yeah to be honest, he can be delusional and think what he wants but he is wrong and that's a fact.
 

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For .... sake. You are so dumb and probably trolling now because no one is as dumb as you have shown to be. Nagato controls people with the rods, he does not use genjutsu with them if he did he could have used them to place a counter genjutsu on his paths, the paths are not Nagato and Nagato was not placed in a genjutsu. It does not matter that Nagato and the paths are using the same chakra, it has never said you can't disrupt someone's chakra even if they are using your own, wouldn't that make it easier?

Are you F*cking serious? You keep repeating yourself and its funny because I keep making you look like a dumbass. But its okay, cuz im having fun making you look bad XD

Corpses dont possess chakra, so everything you say is invalid. And for the 1000th time now, I already said that nagato doesnt control his corpses via genjutsu, becuase dead bodies cant be placed under genjutsu, let alone controlled by it.......................
 

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Are you F*cking serious? You keep repeating yourself and its funny because I keep making you look like a dumbass. But its okay, cuz im having fun making you look bad XD

Corpses dont possess chakra, so everything you say is invalid. And for the 1000th time now, I already said that nagato doesnt control his corpses via genjutsu, becuase dead bodies cant be placed under genjutsu, let alone controlled by it.......................

All ima say is scroll up and re read again if you dont understand but im going to a next post to enlighten someone else
 

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yeh he knows hes wrong not worth replying to now LOL

lol its funny how you fanboys think that you win the argument when I have clearly proven you wrong in every way possible :p

You mad bro??

Yeah to be honest, he can be delusional and think what he wants but he is wrong and that's a fact.

Give me proof that im wrong? you have provided nothing that can cause me to agree with you...And ill be the bigger man and admit when im wrong. But this is clearly a joke because there is nothing in this thread that you can use against me :rolleyes:
 

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Are you F*cking serious? You keep repeating yourself and its funny because I keep making you look like a dumbass. But its okay, cuz im having fun making you look bad XD

Corpses dont possess chakra, so everything you say is invalid. And for the 1000th time now, I already said that nagato doesnt control his corpses via genjutsu, becuase dead bodies cant be placed under genjutsu, let alone controlled by it.......................

No actually you are making yourself look completely retarded. You clearly can't read what I have said for the billions of times I have said it and that's why I am repeating myself. Did I say they had their own chakra, no. I said the opposite. I said they don't have chakra or the will that's why Nagato can control them freely unlike people who are alive. I never said Nagato controls the corpses with genjutsu I said with chakra so clearly you don't read properly. Also @bold, dead bodies can't but clearly dead bodies being controlled can as seen when Naga fights Jiraiya.

Now for the last time the corpse has Nagato's chakra flowing inside them and that's how is controlling them, now if that body get's placed under a genjutsu Nagato can still break them out as it's a different body, it does not matter if it's Nagato's chakra that's inside you can still disrupt your own chakra, especially if it's in another body and as it's his own chakra it would be easier.
 

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lol its funny how you fanboys think that you win the argument when I have clearly proven you wrong in every way possible :p

You mad bro??



Give me proof that im wrong? you have provided nothing that can cause me to agree with you...And ill be the bigger man and admit when im wrong. But this is clearly a joke because there is nothing in this thread that you can use against me :rolleyes:

Fanboy's? How does this make us fanboy's? That comment just proves you are stupid and need to learn English properly.

I'm have already posted my counter to your failed argument.
 

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No actually you are making yourself look completely retarded. You clearly can't read what I have said for the billions of times I have said it and that's why I am repeating myself. Did I say they had their own chakra, no. I said the opposite. I said they don't have chakra or the will that's why Nagato can control them freely unlike people who are alive. I never said Nagato controls the corpses with genjutsu I said with chakra so clearly you don't read properly. Also @bold, dead bodies can't but clearly dead bodies being controlled can as seen when Naga fights Jiraiya.

LOL please, I already proved this point wrong....

Black rods are chakra transmitters, Nagato can transmit his chakra through the corpses and do what he please with it. Just because he can control the corpses doesnt mean that he cant disrupt his chakra too, its his chakra so whats stopping him? Nothing, thats what.

Its actually proven by that first scan that I posted that he can disrupt his chakra and control his corpses because he's disrupting kakashi's chakra through a corpse.

Now for the last time the corpse has Nagato's chakra flowing inside them and that's how is controlling them, now if that body get's placed under a genjutsu Nagato can still break them out as it's a different body, it does not matter if it's Nagato's chakra that's inside you can still disrupt your own chakra, especially if it's in another body and as it's his own chakra it would be easier.

Proved this wrong too. You need two types of chakra to break free of the genjutsu, 1 to disrupt, and 1 to disrupt yours. Any dojutsu user cannot break free of sound based genjutsu by themselves, fact ;)
Fanboy's? How does this make us fanboy's? That comment just proves you are stupid and need to learn English properly.

I'm have already posted my counter to your failed argument.

Failed counters to a flawless argument, and im not even being conceited. Its obvious that genjutsu is possible through the rinnegan's black rods and your counters are utter garbage compared to what I have posted
 

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LOL please, I already proved this point wrong....

Black rods are chakra transmitters, Nagato can transmit his chakra through the corpses and do what he please with it. Just because he can control the corpses doesnt mean that he cant disrupt his chakra too, its his chakra so whats stopping him? Nothing, thats what.

Its actually proven by that first scan that I posted that he can disrupt his chakra and control his corpses because he's disrupting kakashi's chakra through a corpse.



Proved this wrong too. You need two types of chakra to break free of the genjutsu, 1 to disrupt, and 1 to disrupt yours. Any dojutsu user cannot break free of sound based genjutsu by themselves, fact ;)


Failed counters to a flawless argument, and im not even being conceited. Its obvious that genjutsu is possible through the rinnegan's black rods and your counters are utter garbage compared to what I have posted

LOL, this guy is dumb.
 

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LOL please, I already proved this point wrong....
Black rods are chakra transmitters, Nagato can transmit his chakra through the corpses and do what he please with it. Just because he can control the corpses doesnt mean that he cant disrupt his chakra too, its his chakra so whats stopping him? Nothing, thats what.
Its actually proven by that first scan that I posted that he can disrupt his chakra and control his corpses because he's disrupting kakashi's chakra through a corpse.
If nagato would truly disrupted kakashi's chakra, he wouldnt be able to sustain raikiri. Best nagato managed was to change the path of a jab a little.
Proved this wrong too. You need two types of chakra to break free of the genjutsu, 1 to disrupt, and 1 to disrupt yours. Any dojutsu user cannot break free of sound based genjutsu by themselves, fact ;)
Not really, 1 type is enough. Doujutsu plays no role vs sound genjutsu, but any user can brake free if he has powerful chakra and will + genjutsu proficiency.
Failed counters to a flawless argument, and im not even being conceited. Its obvious that genjutsu is possible through the rinnegan's black rods and your counters are utter garbage compared to what I have posted
Possible, but hardly accomplishable on high tier shinobies
 
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