So by your logic Naruto is never going to surpass Nagato because there's no proof of Naruto beating him.. yeah no.
CT gets countered by tailed beast bomb.. if not Naruto brings out the kyuubi and breaks out of CT. Then Naruto proceeds to use a combination of BM and SM Clones and Nagato ends up getting destroyed.
Yeah Naruto does.. He can use SM Clones and if he tries taking their chakra you know what happens.. there's no way he can take on multiple kage level clones.. if he catches Naruto by chance hes going to get blitzed by another clone. And Lmfao he'll die or be weakened from using two CTs healthy or not.Maybe by your logic thats how things work, lmao
There's proof that nagato can beat naruto, he has not a single counter for preta path
CBT can withstand a tbb, and even if naruto focuses on 1 nagato can simply pull out another.
And once naruto gets caught its over. It took 8 tails to slightly break through CBT, and that was a feat from a nagato on his deathbed. Healthy nagato could pull out a much larger CBT, fully encasing him without any chance of escape
He still needs the Edo Jins to control the Bijuu. He can't summon them from the statue without vessels.Wrong, obito can control the bijuu via outer path, thats why he started a war with the kage before he met up with kabuto. He was confident that 6 bijuu + gedo statue would be enough to capture naruto
And if you dont think that the bijuu could be controlled via outer path, they already were (black rods) and naruto had to destroy them to sever the connection
1. Rikudo Sennin
2. hashirama
3. ems/edo madara
4. obito
5. nagato
6. naruto/sasuke
7. sasuke/naruto
8. minato
9. itachi
10. mu/2nd mizukage
if you can properly read this manga which shouldnt be too hard, you would know that this is correct.
You must be joking:
- Raikage lost his arm to MS Sasuke who was using his those abilities for the first time. Yeah, he is getting past CS.
- Muu and Mizukage? Dear Lord, you must be off your meds.
- Minato is not getting past Susano'o. All his FTG Kunais are burnt to a crisp with Magatama. His summons are one-shotted.
- Hizuren is fodderized before EMS Sasuke. Tobirama is featless, and his Suiton attacks are useless before Amaterasu variants and Susano'o.
- Orochimaru is one-shotted with Enton Arrow or Sword and EMS Genjutsu.
- Jiraiya has no speed feats to dodge any of his quick enton attacks and not to mention his Genjutsu. He is literally a fodder here.
- Itachi has a weaker Ocular powers, and as shown by Madara and Sasuke, EMS is tiers above it, there is zero contest between the eternal eyes and the eyes susceptible to blindness and leeching effects on the body.
- KillerBee Lost to MS Sasuke at the end, you expect him to get past EMS Sasuke? Keep dreaming.
Finally a good list
Notice how Madara is scared shitless of Obito?
ultimate tier: God
*sage of six paths*
tier 1: Demi-god
1. Hashirama senju
2. Madara uchiha
3. Obito uchiha
4. Nagato uzamaki
5. Naruto uzamaki
possible entries : The uchiha ancestor, the senju ancestor, at the moment there is not enough information to accurately rank them.
Tier 2 : Beyond kage
6. Tobirama senju
7. Minato namikaze & hiruzen sarutobi (prime)
8. Orochimaru (w/senju dna + kabuto's inventory)
9. Kabuto yakushi (w/orochimaru's dna)
possible entry : Izuna uchiha; at the moment there is not enough information to accurately rank him.
Tier 3 : Kage
10. Jiraiya
11. Itachi uchiha
12. Sasuke uchiha
13. Killer bee
14. Muu & 2nd mizukage
15. 3rd raikage
16. Onoki
17. Tsunade & a
18. Mei & gaara
19. Danzo shimura
20. Kakashi hatake
possible entires : Shisui uchiha, sakumo hatake, at the moment there is not enough information to accurately rank them.
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nice one bro, BUT I THINK 3RD RAIKAGE DESERVES a higher place.
lol, keep your dream alive. I was talking of 3rd Raikage and not 4th, Sasuke cannot beat Lord Muu. Sasuke beat Bee? How? Bee wasnt intrested in fighting or else he would have countered when he switched besides, Juugo Suigetsu and Karin saved his ms ass, Bee will beat him and his EMS together. Sasuke is not anywhere near Itachi in the use of the sharingan. Itachi will beat him and his ems together. Nagato was only able to beat Jiraiya because he knew his jutsu and you think Sasuke will just beat Jiraiya. Sasuke is still fodder b4 Minato and Orochimaru.
You must be stuck at pre-shipudden era if you adhere to this contrived rubbish.
- Third Raikage would do what? Fourth outmatches him in speed, which means he isn't as fast as his successor. Hence, he is rendered open to quick attacks and killed.
- Do prove how Muu beats Sasuke. I would love to hear this **** and bull tale.
- Yes, that's is why he transferred into full eight tails and almost got killed. Clearly shows his lack of interest. Bee only landed a single lethal hit on him, when he took Sasuke by surprise right after Hachibi saved his ass from MS genjutsu. He was about 12-15 seconds under its influence. Had Sasuke wanted to end his life there an then, the fight would have been relatively short.
- Yes, that's why he can use Amaterasu in many versatile ways, is the only character out of the three Susano'o users capable of using Swords, Magatama, and arrows. Yeah, obviously he is way behind. Let's kick aside Manga logic that itself puts EMS tiers above MS. Why bother, right? And let's not forget his status as the most versatile Raiton user, as opposed to two measly Katon attacks Itachi has, which even Sasuke can accomplish. Yet, he is still behind him. The irony.
- Jiraiya was bitch-slapped into oblivion by Pein using only 5 % of its offensive power, as Deva path reduces paths' recovery down to a crawl if it uses almighty push, and they have to be literally turned off to use Chibaku Tensai. He barely handled defensive paths - Petra and Human with zero speed or Taijutsu feats - and animal path - that only deals with summons. The second he faced Asura, he was literally slaughtered.
He lacks any speed feats even in SM to dodge Amaterasu or arrows. One-shot factor.
- Prove it please. I am sure it will delight everyone.
You must be stuck at pre-shipudden era if you adhere to this contrived rubbish.
- Third Raikage would do what? Fourth outmatches him in speed, which means he isn't as fast as his successor. Hence, he is rendered open to quick attacks and killed.
- Do prove how Muu beats Sasuke. I would love to hear this **** and bull tale.
- Yes, that's is why he transferred into full eight tails and almost got killed. Clearly shows his lack of interest. Bee only landed a single lethal hit on him, when he took Sasuke by surprise right after Hachibi saved his ass from MS genjutsu. He was about 12-15 seconds under its influence. Had Sasuke wanted to end his life there an then, the fight would have been relatively short.
- Yes, that's why he can use Amaterasu in many versatile ways, is the only character out of the three Susano'o users capable of using Swords, Magatama, and arrows. Yeah, obviously he is way behind. Let's kick aside Manga logic that itself puts EMS tiers above MS. Why bother, right? And let's not forget his status as the most versatile Raiton user, as opposed to two measly Katon attacks Itachi has, which even Sasuke can accomplish. Yet, he is still behind him. The irony.
- Jiraiya was bitch-slapped into oblivion by Pein using only 5 % of its offensive power, as Deva path reduces paths' recovery down to a crawl if it uses almighty push, and they have to be literally turned off to use Chibaku Tensai. He barely handled defensive paths - Petra and Human with zero speed or Taijutsu feats - and animal path - that only deals with summons. The second he faced Asura, he was literally slaughtered.
He lacks any speed feats even in SM to dodge Amaterasu or arrows. One-shot factor.
- Prove it please. I am sure it will delight everyone.