Chibaku Tensei: S/T jutsu [theory]

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*This thread is hypothetical.


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Chibaku Tensei-The user creates a dark black sphere of gravity that when thrown into the sky, attracts objects from all directions and pulls them into the sphere compressing them simultaneously. The surrounding earth, including forests and mountains, are collected into a single point, piling on top of one another until it creates a large sphere.


-Narutopedia

As noted by the naruto wiki site, Chibaku tensei creates a black sphere of gravity. As many of us know gravity is the force of attraction between all particles or bodies that have mass. Gravity's force also has an effect on space and time which is why i say it could be a space time jutsu.

If gravity is strong enough it will actually bend the space around it. to be more specific the space/time around it. Because this jutsu has the ability to control both the space and the time it is technically a space time jutsu. Different than minato who uses speed as a S/T jutsu or Tobi with his 'worm hole', Nagato or the sage of the six paths could manipulate space time using Chibaku Tensei if it were powerful enough.

With that said its not likely Nagato would have the chakra reserves to make a drastic change on the space time. he simply does not have enough power. but the sage as an example would have nearly limitless power and would be capable of bending the dimensions of space time with gravity more drastically. Using the sage as an example:If Chibaku Tensei was powerful enough to have a gravitational pull greater than a few solar bodies, then Chibaku Tensei could make a black hole comparable to Kamui. Instead of entering another dimension, one would be crushed under the massive amount of gravity.




Summary:

-Chibaku Tensei is a form of space time ninjutsu
-If gravity is great enough, chibaku tensei could have the same effect as **kamui by creating a black hole.

**Edit:not as far as teleporting but bending space and time by creating a warp.
 
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This theory is correct.
 

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No. Kamui doesn't create a black hole firstly. It's a warp portal to a separate dimension.

Secondly, Chibaku Tensei is creating a black hole in the sense that it has extreme gravitational pull and is extremely dense.
 

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This theory is correct.

Thankyou sir

No. Kamui doesn't create a black hole firstly. It's a warp portal to a separate dimension.

Secondly, Chibaku Tensei is creating a black hole in the sense that it has extreme gravitational pull and is extremely dense.

I said it Kamui is basically a worm hole but is comparable with a black hole. please read the whole thread. never said it creates a black hole
 
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its not his only space time jutsu

You're also theoretically correct.

No. Kamui doesn't create a black hole firstly. It's a warp portal to a separate dimension.

Secondly, Chibaku Tensei is creating a black hole in the sense that it has extreme gravitational pull and is extremely dense.

A black hole is a black hole no matter how much you change the evidence around. Black holes distort space/time.
 

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Your theory is incorrect because S/T deals with the space-time continuum and that jutsu is just gravity
 

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disagree if it was a black hole it could not be cut down everything would be sucked right in it your theory sucks
 

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Your theory is incorrect because S/T deals with the space-time continuum and that jutsu is just gravity

However, the technique is still technically creating a black hole in which distorts space/time. Thus it is a S/T ninjutsu.
 

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Nice theory :yeah:

A black hole is a black hole no matter how much you change the evidence around. Black holes distort space/time.

This is absolutely correct, The only difference between CBT and kamui is that we dont know where the matter thats being compressed is going.

What makes it s/t is the fact that is distorts matter while transporting it to another "dimension"
 

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Your theory is incorrect because S/T deals with the space-time continuum and that jutsu is just gravity

Yes this its not like.. The sage can warp himself in chibaku tensei to another place
Its just pure gravity that pulls everything towards it
 

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Nice theory :yeah:



This is absolutely correct, The only difference between CBT and kamui is that we dont know where the matter thats being compressed is going.

What makes it t/s is the fact that it can distort matter while transporting it to another "dimension"

Someone intelligent speaks. You sir have earned rep.
 

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Your theory is incorrect because S/T deals with the space-time continuum and that jutsu is just gravity

It does effect time. the black holes gravity is so great it actually slows time down. The gravity effects 4 dimensions. 3 dimensions of space and 1 dimension of time
 
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the tech is created by a black ball not a black hole if so how could it get destroyed with brute force?
 

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However, the technique is still technically creating a black hole in which distorts space/time. Thus it is a S/T ninjutsu.

You are yet again wrong black hole pull stuff to them and bring them into oblivion while Chibaku Tensei pulls stuff but holds them intact with it as it's centre
 

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the tech is created by a black ball not a black hole if so how could it get destroyed with brute force?

Because it has a limit. If CBT was an infinite black hole then nagato would've destroyed the earth while trying to capture naruto
 

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the tech is created by a black ball not a black hole if so how could it get destroyed with brute force?

You are yet again wrong black hole pull stuff to them and bring them into oblivion while Chibaku Tensei pulls stuff but holds them intact with it as it's centre

If the ball of gravity is great enough it will distort space, bending it and creat a black hole. because the space gets bent time begins to move slower in and around the black hole. it manipulates both space and time if powerful enough to do so. i said its possible to use CT to make a black hole and theoretically i am right
 

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You are yet again wrong black hole pull stuff to them and bring them into oblivion while Chibaku Tensei pulls stuff but holds them intact with it as it's centre

Read this:
So you're basically saying Albert Einstein is incorrect when saying Gravity can warp Time/Space? (being a S/T Ninjutsu)

If you deny this you're a fool.
 
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