Tobirama's Honor> Madara's Will

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^ First off Both are harrible people as a whole (This is my personal opinion) My reasoning for feeling this way is his death. Mind you I dont agree with his bias feeling to senju clan over the uchiha, or his creating that Evil Dead jutsu Edo tensei. His sacrificing himself for the sake of his villiage, students, and techniclly the remaining uchiha, proves that he is not selfish and did have the villiages best intrest verses his own objectives. People like Madara, Oro and Donzo, sacrificed other ninja for there own personal causes. Altough, Donzo and Oro fall below Madara with sacrificing others personal gain. Donzo went as far as ruining itachi's child hood and life.I kno the coupe de wutever had to be prevented but when he to sasuke he wasnt a true shinobi cause he thought he spoke of his mission was dispecable, not to mention taking the clans eye's. Amongst others he ruined, Sai, all the anbu, and almost cost the rep of the leaf a the kage meeting. Oro, well that goes without saying. Madara is obviously using Obito, Used the only person who gave a dam (Hashirama) body for powers n other people. With all the power he had, he could of did something positive. Made a new village or sumthing. Really he wants to sacrifice everybody in the world for his dream to rule them with false peace!


mybad I know its long and I'm not a fan of Tobirama's prejudice's acts but I respect him as a better person due to his sacrifice and putting others before himself which is the best kind of leader.
 
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I disrespect you, for your oppinion :shy:
 

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If he didn't create the edo tensei, considered the uchiha's feelings, didn't persecute them and considered them apart of the village...atleast given them a chance there would be no 4th shinobi war, Itachi would be alive and both him and sasuke would have their families, skilled ninja like shisui would be alive, Naruto's parents would be alive, there would be no Edo-tensei meaning, hiruzen would still be alive.
 

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(...)Madara is obviously using Obito, Used the only person who gave a dam (Hashirama) body for powers n other people. With all the power he had, he could of did something positive. Made a new village or sumthing. (...)
I saw that from the begining. Madara has no redeemable traits, he is a horrifyc monster not some kind of martyr. Yet people bash Tobirama for being right about him!.
 

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All hail Tobirama the Adolf Hitler of Narutoverse.
 

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Adolf Hitler was good guy, but tobirama wasnt
 
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Had Tobirama not been an asset in the life of Uchiha, Madara and Senju, Hashirama then Konohagakurw would have been concepted and simply put, many of the atrocities that the citizens of the shinobi world must have experienced wouldn't have been a factor had Tobirama ceased to exist.
 

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If he didn't create the edo tensei, considered the uchiha's feelings, didn't persecute them and considered them apart of the village...atleast given them a chance there would be no 4th shinobi war, Itachi would be alive and both him and sasuke would have their families, skilled ninja like shisui would be alive, Naruto's parents would be alive, there would be no Edo-tensei meaning, hiruzen would still be alive.

yea i agree with that. they both had negative and the reason i made it long was to explain his negatives as well. That the only area i give him over madara but i mentioned that Edo Tensei is the most Evil jutsu in the naruto verse and i dont like his prejudice. Im black i kno all about that so diffently to think he is the better man 360
 

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All hail Tobirama the Adolf Hitler of Narutoverse.


Really Guys read the WHOLE thing before u reply. im not praising Tobirama at all. just pointing out ONE aspect between him and madara. I dont agree with him as a whole
 

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So how do u compare will with honor?
Tobirama had no honor.
 

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So how do u compare will with honor?
Tobirama had no honor.

honor is doing something honorable. Like sacrificing urself. Will is the amout of focus and effort u put into an idea. but the definitions from webster are

WILL:The mental faculty by which one deliberately chooses or decides upon a
course of action

HONOR:fairness, or integrity in one's beliefs and actions
 
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