Edo Hashirama can't beat current Edo Madara

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Madara can use mokuton
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It's as powerful as his
 

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Madara can use mokuton
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It's as powerful as his
 
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If Madara got revived, he would barely even be able to use wood style.
 

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Madara got portion of hashi's power. he can't match mokuton power vs power.not to mention Hashi got sage mode.

Obito got a portion of hashirama's cell, madara got portion of hashirama's cell.. I csn see them struggling to control 10tail.
If hashirama (at his time) is power hunger he keep his tail beast pet just to him self instead give it to other country. If hashirama (edo) is power hunger he will use the 10tail to fight madara.

it's true that hashirama was revived not at full power, but that doesn't change the fact that his cell is like combination of yamato + danzo + army of zetsu + G M + Obito + Madara cuz all of this guys got portion of hashirama's cell
 
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every new power you listed in the OP(except the juubi which madara cant use by himself) is crap compared to the PS which hashirama beat fused with the kyuubi. you didnt even take into account how strong madaras new techs are compared to hashiramas powers. basically all you said was "madara has mokuton so he stronger than hashirama".

madara already admitted his inferiority to hashirama on multiple occasions so this thread is automatically invalid.
 

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Yeah, this isn't going to work out for Madara as you expected. Just because Madara has Mokuton and the Rinnegan does not mean that he can now defeat Hashirama. For one, Madara can barely use the Rinnegan as we've seen so far: He's only used the Preta Path and the Deva Path (Banshō Ten'in for Shattered Heaven). And Madara now has the Juubi? That's fine since Hashirama has that giant-ass statue. As far as we've seen though, Madara has not yet achieved full control of the Juubi. Furthermore, Hashirama's Senju Kannon is far more mobile than the Juubi, Madara's better off fighting head to head. Oh and I think Madara stated to the Five Kage that only Hashirama could stop him.
 

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madara already admitted his inferiority to hashirama on multiple occasions so this thread is automatically invalid.

LOL where has he done this? If you're talking about then you're wrong, because A) he was talking in the past tense and B) he was lowering the morale of the 5 kage....Stating that this thread is invalid because you think that PS is the only move that madara can use at full power is laughable....

If madara with PS and kurama can do to hashi, then PS + mokuton and rinnegan can do just as much :rolleyes:

Yeah, this isn't going to work out for Madara as you expected. Just because Madara has Mokuton and the Rinnegan does not mean that he can now defeat Hashirama. For one, Madara can barely use the Rinnegan as we've seen so far: He's only used the Preta Path and the Deva Path (Banshō Ten'in for Shattered Heaven). And Madara now has the Juubi? That's fine since Hashirama has that giant-ass statue. As far as we've seen though, Madara has not yet achieved full control of the Juubi. Furthermore, Hashirama's Senju Kannon is far more mobile than the Juubi, Madara's better off fighting head to head. Oh and I think Madara stated to the Five Kage that only Hashirama could stop him.

1 fatal flaw in your theory...The only two rinnegan abilities that madara has shown would wreck hashi's mokuton....And if obito can learn human path then madara can too, because he taught him everything he knows
 
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Dude, Hashirama has shown the capability of breaking a room without doing anything..that is TRUE POWER.. Madara even with all his new things can't achieve that power.

LOL where has he done this? If you're talking about then you're wrong, because A) he was talking in the past tense and B) he was lowering the morale of the 5 kage....Stating that this thread is invalid because you think that PS is the only move that madara can use at full power is laughable....

If madara with PS and kurama can do to hashi, then PS + mokuton and rinnegan can do just as much :rolleyes:
You claim is false, he stated, AFTER PUTTING UP A PERFECT SUSANO'O that only Hashirama can stop him...notice how he said that he should've taught Hashirama to rise from the dead... as his point that only Hashirama can stop his current self.

Perfect Susano'o, stated by Madara is his "TRUE POWER" or his "STRONGEST POWER".

Also, do you fan always use one scan? Bleeding in a battle is normal.. it is the end result that matters.
 
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LOL where has he done this? If you're talking about then you're wrong, because A) he was talking in the past tense and B) he was lowering the morale of the 5 kage....Stating that this thread is invalid because you think that PS is the only move that madara can use at full power is laughable....

If madara with PS and kurama can do to hashi, then PS + mokuton and rinnegan can do just as much :rolleyes:
so i have to go through the trouble of disproving your nonsense yet again.

1. you cant understand basic english. madara says that only hashirama could ever stop him & that he is no longer with us. it just means that hashirama is no longer there to stop madara. its basic english.
past tense doesnt matter anyway. edo madara is the same madara that hashirama beat when hes at full power. your nonsense of madara stating that only because he wanted to lower the morale of the 5 kage is unsupported.

2. madara doesnt have the feats of using rinnegan techs & mokuton in conjunction with perfect susano so your argument is invalid from the start.
 

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We know, we know.
But I'd like to add, the Juubi isn't in Edo Madara's possession anymore. Lee severed his connection. In addition, DSM Kabuto said that Edo Madara only has a portion of Hashirama's strength, meaning his mokuton isn't even on par with base Hashirama's mokuton, let alone Sage Mode Hashirama's mokuton.
 

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Dude, Hashirama has shown the capability of breaking a room without doing anything..that is TRUE POWER.. Madara even with all his new things can't achieve that power.


You claim is false, he stated, AFTER PUTTING UP A PERFECT SUSANO'O that only Hashirama can stop him...notice how he said that he should've taught Hashirama to rise from the dead... as his point that only Hashirama can stop his current self.

Perfect Susano'o, stated by Madara is his "TRUE POWER" or his "STRONGEST POWER".

Also, do you fan always use one scan? Bleeding in a battle is normal.. it is the end result that matters.

My claim is true and i will show you why ;)

1. lol, this isnt impressive, EMS madara fought a full 100% power hashi. That level of power is weak compared to an edo madara thats been improved far beyond his prime

2. Wrong, read the ...Madara is talking in the past tense, meaning that hashi was the only one at the time who can stop him. He was talking about raising hashi from the dead because the kage were fodder compared to him, and he was trying to lower their morale....Madara never states that hashi is stronger than his current self.....

3. Just because madara's strongest power is PS doesnt mean that thats the only power he can use....If that was the case then he shouldnt be able to control kurama and PS at the same time. Those are two separate powers, yes he's using them both. If he can do this then I see no reason why he cant use multiple mokuton clones to produce PS (unlimited chakra). Give me a reason why he cant do this with a reason other than "because he hasnt shown it" and ill listen to you U_U

4. lol you're right, and the end result was that madara survived that fight.....The fact that hashi got that damaged while fighting EMS madara at full power proves without a doubt that his edo form will lose because he is A) not at 100% power while madara is improved past his full power, and B) he's not aware of the rinnegan and all of its abilities, or the fact that madara possesses mokuton.

Edo madara wins XD

so i have to go through the trouble of disproving your nonsense yet again.

1. you cant understand basic english. madara says that only hashirama could ever stop him & that he is no longer with us. it just means that hashirama is no longer there to stop madara. its basic english.
past tense doesnt matter anyway. edo madara is the same madara that hashirama beat when hes at full power. your nonsense of madara stating that only because he wanted to lower the morale of the 5 kage is unsupported.

2. madara doesnt have the feats of using rinnegan techs & mokuton in conjunction with perfect susano so your argument is invalid from the start.

1. Wrong, read the scan.....
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Hashi was the only one who could stop him. Meaning that there was never a stronger person than him other than hashi, but he's not on this planet anymore....You cant weasel your way around this one, it was past tense and if you dont think so then i think you need to go back for some extra ESL lessons :p

And are you dumb? hashi is lower than 100% power, and madara as improved far beyond his prime, you're telling me that their powers are the same as that time at the VoTE???? You must be moronic.....seriously.....

2. LOL shattered heaven (bansho tenin) is literally used simultaneously with susanoo.......
 
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Wait a minute... :| neither of them have shown Sealing Techniques, it doesn't matter how many times they hit each other neither will die. Stalemate. Unless Madara somehow pulls the Human Path out of his butt.
 

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Wait a minute... :| neither of them have shown Sealing Techniques, it doesn't matter how many times they hit each other neither will die. Stalemate. Unless Madara somehow pulls the Human Path out of his butt.

Obito knows it, why wouldnt madara know it? He had plenty of time to study the rinnegan's abilities before he died
 

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Hashi most likely knows sealing jutsu so in an edo vs edo...the one with sealing jutsu wins
 
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