Are the Uchiha still weaker then Senju?

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

Well, when you think about it, it took 2 entire generations of uchiha clan members to produce 4 elite/kage level uchiha (obito, sasuke, itachi, shishui) 150 or so ninja in these 2 generations.

where it took one single senju couple with two offspring to produce 1 kage level senju (tsunade).


That means by the logic you are implying. We can infer that:

1/37.5 uchiha will be elite, while 1/2 senju will be elite.

So senju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uchiha, using present time data to define senju average strength.

ummmm Tsunade
1. Isn't an Elite
2. Is only half Senju

though she is a powerful ninja

 

[Lightbringer]

Uhhhh Tobirama killed Izuna.

fighting in a battle with people is different than fighting 1v1 because you can get attacked from all sides and people can interfere or group up

it's possible that Izuna was fighting other senju and wasn't aware of Tobirama

 

[Amaterasuice]

fighting in a battle with people is different than fighting 1v1 because you can get attacked from all sides and people can interfere or group up

it's possible that Izuna was fighting other senju and wasn't aware of Tobirama

That's true

 

[lordmadarauchiha]

The senju were stronger than Uchiha for sure in the beginning:

Younger son>Elder son
Hashirama>Madara
Tobirama>/=Izuna (I know Tobirama killed Izuna, but they were in a group fight, and it's been implied they were equals)
Butsuma=Tajima

But since then, the only known strong Senju is Tsunade, while the uchiha have Sasuke, Itachi, Shisui, and obito as well.

So, now are the Uchiha stronger?

I thought elder son = younger son

 

[xxxNaruto Sage Modexxx]

The Senju can do unpredictable moves...so the sharingan can't see it so yes

 

[BazzBee]

Senju have and are and will always remain stronger than Uchiha

 

[garas56]

The senju were stronger than Uchiha for sure in the beginning:

Younger son>Elder son
Hashirama>Madara
Tobirama>/=Izuna (I know Tobirama killed Izuna, but they were in a group fight, and it's been implied they were equals)
Butsuma=Tajima

But since then, the only known strong Senju is Tsunade, while the uchiha have Sasuke, Itachi, Shisui, and obito as well.

So, now are the Uchiha stronger?

No Naruto is still pousible has Blod of senjus cous Uzumakys are realative......
Who is stronger Yin or yang?The anser is none........Both are draw.
But love in some terms are stronger than Hate...

 

[P3ĮÑ]

Yes they are 100% inferior

 

[Big bengi]

yeah, the senju may not be around but they are being represented by other ninjas from konoha (minato) or blood connected to the senju like the uzumakii (naruto)

 

[Omnipotent]

Younger Son + Hashirama + Nagato + Naruto + Tobirama + Tsunade (Uzumaki apparently fall under the Senju, or at least share the same bloodline) > Elder Son + Madara + Obito + Itachi + Sasuke + Izuna + Shisui.

I mean, BM Naruto can simply give everyone on his team a chakra cloak.

 

[Prince Charles]

tsunade and naruto arent PURE senju but i guess you can count them in.

 

[LitzSabr]

As its a battle b/w clans so,,, If a Senju and on the other hand an Uchiha train their respective abilities to the same extent, the senju would be stronger.

In other words.,
Average senju>average uchiha
Top senju > Top fron Uchiha

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

Senju solos all Uchihas prior to implanting two additional eyes just to unlock EMS.

the method in which EMS is unlocked is really not important. EMS is STILL an Uchiha attribute and Uchiha are still born if the Sage of the Six Paths.

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

tsunade and naruto arent PURE senju but i guess you can count them in.

Naruto is not Senju at all as far as i am aware. He is half Uzumaki - which is the tribe of the Sage.

 

[ixc]

Mei pawns MS Sasuke, and can take on Gaara. And any other non-Kage member in the alliance besides B and Naruto.

Yes the women in Naruto have been week. EMS Sasuke is above all the Kages right now.

But Tsunade's hype even far exceeds Itachi's.

Uhm, it does not. Itachi's hype is far above Tsunade's hype.

If Itachi, Sasuke and Obito were to live in that period of time the Uchiha would have raped the Senju.

Itachi simply solo's them all with Totsuka and Yata.

 

[Stark]

Who lasted longer though? Ok then, Senju was extinct long before the Uchiha were, only Tsunade bears that last name.

 

[Champ]

Uchiha's would stomp them now

 

[Odemgee]

It hard to say, because the way Tobirama talks it was as if the Uchia were not all fighting at there full potential and that is why he was warning Hashi about there true power. So that leads me to believe that atleast in the times of the senju/uchia battles not all uchia, probably less then half, had sharingan and was even more rare for a uchia to have MS, but the senju on the other hand do not have certain requirement to be at there full potential so that factor is what made the senju stronger as a clan during those times.

 

[Amaterasuice]

Younger Son + Hashirama + Nagato + Naruto + Tobirama + Tsunade (Uzumaki apparently fall under the Senju, or at least share the same bloodline) > Elder Son + Madara + Obito + Itachi + Sasuke + Izuna + Shisui.

I mean, BM Naruto can simply give everyone on his team a chakra cloak.

If you give Senju the Uzumaki the Uchiha get the Hyuuga. XD