Hashirama >>>>> Obito

[DeathandEnvy]

Why did i even bother reading this, we all know Hashi can own Obito.

 

[synkross]

Obito doesn't have ST. Nagato can beat Hashirama. I hate Nagato, I LOVE Hashirama but I admit Nagato could win, but he wouldn't.

Obito has all the abilities nagato had.....in case you are forgetting that he has the same rennigan.....which makes your comment invalid.

btw your sig makes hashi look like a douchbag, reread it... just sayin

i cant believe how overrated obito is. in the manga, his jutsu has been figured out & countered on multiple occasions. even danzos bodyguards had a grasp on its function & devised a counter. obito even lost an arm in the process of beating them. kishi has shown on multiple occasions how 'kamui gg' isnt an argument. not when its been countered countless times. its only here that obito can accomplish things that he cant do in the manga.

hashirama obviously wins. fanboying over a jutsu thats already been made a joke of wont change that obito loses.

because theoreticaly with all his powers Obito is pretty much unstoppable, and you don't see this in manga because of plot cuz then you'll be cryin about his OPness

 

[P3ĮÑ 👑]

I think everyone here on NB knows that

 

[Draphsin]

i cant believe how overrated obito is. in the manga, his jutsu has been figured out & countered on multiple occasions. even danzos bodyguards had a grasp on its function & devised a counter. obito even lost an arm in the process of beating them. kishi has shown on multiple occasions how 'kamui gg' isnt an argument. not when its been countered countless times. its only here that obito can accomplish things that he cant do in the manga.

hashirama obviously wins. fanboying over a jutsu thats already been made a joke of wont change that obito loses.

lmao you are such a hater...obito wouldnt willingly lose his arm just to kill a fodder like that...he did that to himself because he had an arm made of regenerating senju DNA. Not once did fuu and torune even touch him. He only lost that arm because he allowed it. He fodderized them, deal with it...

Oh and btw show me someone who has touched obito without s/t and previous intel on kamui...

 

[TheSages456]

lmao you are such a hater...obito wouldnt willingly lose his arm just to kill a fodder like that...he did that to himself because he had an arm made of regenerating senju DNA. Not once did fuu and torune even touch him. He only lost that arm because he allowed it. He fodderized them, deal with it...

Oh and btw show me someone who has touched obito without s/t and previous intel on kamui...

you basically asked me to show you scans of people beating kamui but restricted pretty much everyone who already beat the technique.

the amount of ease suggested by you obito fanboys saying 'kamui gg' isnt manga supported because not once has he ever done it that easily. the man having trouble with kakashi isnt pushing god tiers anywhere near even mid diff. he couldnt even warp gai. gai was holding his own against his gunbai & spacetime ninjutsu in base.

portrayal wise, he isnt on hashiramas level either.

 

[SilverSlick]

you basically asked me to show you scans of people beating kamui but restricted pretty much everyone who already beat the technique.

the amount of ease suggested by you obito fanboys saying 'kamui gg' isnt manga supported because not once has he ever done it that easily. the man having trouble with kakashi isnt pushing god tiers anywhere near even mid diff. he couldnt even warp gai. gai was holding his own against his gunbai & spacetime ninjutsu in base.

portrayal wise, he isnt on hashiramas level either.

Its been said by Obito that all he needs to win is one touch[

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]. There's no conceivable way for Hashirama to win if he has no knowledge of Obito's techniques. Its as simple as that. I don't see Hashirama with a S/T technique. Also, a lot of the instances you were referring to was him fighting 4 people at the same time. If he fights multiple people, trying to use his Kamui would only allow an opening for the enemy. At this time, his priority was protecting the Gedo Mazo.

 

[TheSages456]

Its been said by Obito that all he needs to win is one touch[

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which explains why obito couldnt even 'kamui gg' people weaker than hashirama. the flower world ends this in seconds or 5 minutes if obito wants to delay his inevitable death.

 

[Draphsin]

you basically asked me to show you scans of people beating kamui but restricted pretty much everyone who already beat the technique.

the amount of ease suggested by you obito fanboys saying 'kamui gg' isnt manga supported because not once has he ever done it that easily. the man having trouble with kakashi isnt pushing god tiers anywhere near even mid diff. he couldnt even warp gai. gai was holding his own against his gunbai & spacetime ninjutsu in base.

portrayal wise, he isnt on hashiramas level either.

lol no i didnt, I restricted people who have had an advantage over him (minato, kakashi, and konan...). You forget, he has the defense kamui. Yet he still manages to fodderize people (fuu and torune are prime examples)

Hold his own against kakashi? do you not realize who saves that man's ass countless times? (hint, he has blonde hair -__-) im not gonna post the scan because theres too many to count, but chapter 607 is a good place to start....

And finally gai, gai is shown to be the best taijutsu user in the series, he's not a fodder, and he's not slow. Tell me how come none of them could touch him until kakashi used kamui? (the only other person besides minato with confirmed s/t)...this just proves that you need to have experience, or s/t to even lay a hand on him, let alone kill him....

and if you think that hashi can solo 1-7 bijuu plus kamui at the same time with ease, then its clear who the fanboy really is

 

[SilverSlick]

which explains why obito couldnt even 'kamui gg' people weaker than hashirama. the flower world ends this in seconds or 5 minutes if obito wants to delay his inevitable death.

That's plot. We've seen the speed of Kamui. We have seen what Obito has said. You can deny it all you want. There's multiple counters to Flower Tree World. Not to mention the instances where he couldn't warp those people was because he was fighting more than one person. He has to materialize to warp, thus opening himself up to the enemy. His main priority was protecting the Gedo Mazo.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

He has to touch him first.

So he teleports behind him.
Also, Foo was absorbed without obito touching him.

 

[TheSages456]

lol no i didnt, I restricted people who have had an advantage over him (minato, kakashi, and konan...). You forget, he has the defense kamui. Yet he still manages to fodderize people (fuu and torune are prime examples)

the people you listed didnt have an advantage over obito. it was an equal playing field and obito got outplayed.

Hold his own against kakashi? do you not realize who saves that man's ass countless times? (hint, he has blonde hair -__-) im not gonna post the scan because theres too many to count, but chapter 607 is a good place to start....

so what if naruto saved kakashi? if obito has that much trouble with kakashi while a certain person right under hashirama in power is casually taking craps on BM naruto, bee & gai then you can clearly see the difference in portrayal & power.

And finally gai, gai is shown to be the best taijutsu user in the series, he's not a fodder, and he's not slow. Tell me how come none of them could touch him until kakashi used kamui? (the only other person besides minato with confirmed s/t)...this just proves that you need to have experience, or s/t to even lay a hand on him, let alone kill him....

i never said that gai is fodder but he is hundreds of tiers below hashirama. explain why obito couldnt warp anyone in team naruto even before kakashis breakthrough in knowledge of kamui.

and if you think that hashi can solo 1-7 bijuu plus kamui at the same time with ease, then its clear who the fanboy really is

hashirama already fodderized the biju & kept them as his pets in canon. if obito is using the biju, he isnt fighting with his own body so saying "7 biju+kamui" isnt an argument. obito has only canonically controlled 5 full form biju at a time.

That's plot. We've seen the speed of Kamui. We have seen what Obito has said. You can deny it all you want. There's multiple counters to Flower Tree World. Not to mention the instances where he couldn't warp those people was because he was fighting more than one person. He has to materialize to warp, thus opening himself up to the enemy. His main priority was protecting the Gedo Mazo.

we are done here.

 

[Insidious Smile]

I agree with this .

 

[AlphaScythian]

Seriously sage or w/e u call urself. Take off that name, and take off madara pic, ur not worthy any of it

 

[TheSages456]

Seriously sage or w/e u call urself. Take off that name, and take off madara pic, ur not worthy any of it

im not worthy of having a picture of a fictional character? you're taking your fetish for manga characters too far.

 

[Sherlock.]

Bro.... Its obvious....

 

[Koo]

Obito is probably immune seing as how he has a senju body and wood style

 

[AlphaScythian]

im not worthy of having a picture of a fictional character? you're taking your fetish for manga characters too far.

Not of madara, and ur judgement is far below of any sage. Wannabe

 

[Stark]

Yes Hashirama would win in a fight, but he wouldn't one shot Obito.

 

[End of Days]

Hashirama would have to find out a way to force obito to inhale the pollen otherwise this tech isn't going to beat obito

 

[Draphsin]

the people you listed didnt have an advantage over obito. it was an equal playing field and obito got outplayed.

so what if naruto saved kakashi? if obito has that much trouble with kakashi while a certain person right under hashirama in power is casually taking craps on BM naruto, bee & gai then you can clearly see the difference in portrayal & power.

i never said that gai is fodder but he is hundreds of tiers below hashirama. explain why obito couldnt warp anyone in team naruto even before kakashis breakthrough in knowledge of kamui.

hashirama already fodderized the biju & kept them as his pets in canon. if obito is using the biju, he isnt fighting with his own body so saying "7 biju+kamui" isnt an argument. obito has only canonically controlled 5 full form biju at a time.

lol...

1. minato is a kage with years of experience, obito was 14 at the time and used no mokuton which we already know he's proficient at using. Kakashi's kamui hasn't worked on obito unless he's directly distracted from fighting someone else. Without that kamui, that distinct advantage, none of them would even lay a hand on him, fact. And konan had precious intel that nobody else had on obito, he himself didnt even know that konan possessed this information. Not only that buy obito was cocky enough to play konans little game and humour her, willingly putting himself at a disadvantage. And besides, obito wasnt fighting to kill while konan was...another disadvantage...

2. Kakashi would've died without naruto multiple times, he used naruto as a distraction to hit obito 3 times...he hasnt touched obito without kurama's help...so this argument is over

3. I've already stated multiple times that obito's kamui is the defensive one. It allows him to become intangible...he's fighting the fastest taijutsu user, + kakashi and KM naruto (who's on minato's level of speed). Its already proven that obito fodderizes KM naruto & bee, and he's been shown to hold his own against him and gai/him and kakashi simultaneously, sure he hasnt warped anybody but thats just because he was fighting four of the strongest shinobi in the series (two of which are jinjuuriki, and two of which can hold their own against bijuu)...Cant deny the facts

4. OMG SUCH FANBOY FAIL...you say that hashi "fodderized" the bijuu when it was only stated that he had them under his control, that in no way means he fodderized, or solod them....and that also doesnt prove the fact that he fought them simultaniously...thats a completely different story. And then you go on to say that obito cant control all of his bijuu without any problem? He can control 6, what makes you say he cant? the fact that he hasnt shown the ability to possess 1 more measly bijuu with its own chakra? well then i can go on to say that hashi hasnt canonically tamed all the bijuu simultaniously...all of your facts are irrelevant

Saying that hashi is levels above obito is just fanboyism at its finest, i wonder what excuses you will come up with next