Uchiha/Nidaime/Shodaime Discussion

[LordRevan]

First of all,by the time konoha was created (this chapter) Tobirama respected Hashirama's wishes, he merely led it be known it should be up to the people to decide their rightful leader. The village didn't want Madara, the uchihas didn't want Madara, hell, Madara himself proved Tobirama right and went bananas in the end.

Yet, the problem is that the people didn't listen to what the LEADER or the guy THEY elected was saying..... Tobirama talks to much.

They were killed because they didn't want to Voice about the problem, They wanted to take the village by Force, Thus indangering the entire fire country and risking Many many thousands of innocent Men/Women and childrens lives.

Hiruzen was the hokage, He was a very reasonable man, He was kind and loved by all, Yet the uchiha's didn't want to sit down with him and talk to him, Hiruzen was the one trying to talk to them.

The uchiha's chose force and they were met with force. Their own damn fault.

You make it sound like they're totally innocent in it all.

Sir do you not have any knowledge of what "Coup" or a " revolution" is ?

Hiruzen was the MOST naive leader out of all.. the guy was letting a idiot like Danzo run half of the konoha's politics. He didn't do shit after Minato died. And when did Hiruzen actually go to talk to the Uchiha? WHEN DID THE LEADERS ACTUALLY GAVE A F-CK ABOUT THE UCHIHA?

THEY DIDN'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THEIR CONDITION TILL THEY PLANNED A REVOLUTION/COUP.

You make it sound like Danzo/Hiruzen's Konoha was a Good government.

 

[Exaar]

Sir do you not have any knowledge of what "Coup" or a " revolution" is ?

Hiruzen was the MOST naive leader out of all.. the guy was letting a idiot like Danzo run half of the konoha's politics. He didn't do shit after Minato died. And when did Hiruzen actually go to talk to the Uchiha? WHEN DID THE LEADERS ACTUALLY GAVE A F-CK ABOUT THE UCHIHA?

THEY DIDN'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THEIR CONDITION TILL THEY PLANNED A REVOLUTION/COUP.

You make it sound like Danzo/Hiruzen's Konoha was a Good government.

Hiruzen cared for all of the village, He spoke of it as a family, Even the uchiha, Not once did he ever speak bad about them nor did he want to have them killed, He told itachi to Gain as much time as possible to try to sort the matter out without the need of using force

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He didn't want to destroy them, He himself tried to think of another way, He wanted to use Words not power. If the uchiha would've sat down with him things would've gone alot smoother for the uchiha.

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There were many way the uchiha could've solved their problems, But they chose wrong and they paid the price. Hiruzen didn't want it to happen but deep down he knew it had to be done.
As away of making up for the uchiha clans demise he took care of sasuke and made sure no harm came to him just as itachi asked of him.

 

[LordRevan]

Hiruzen cared for all of the village, He spoke of it as a family, Even the uchiha, Not once did he ever speak bad about them nor did he want to have them killed, He told itachi to Gain as much time as possible to try to sort the matter out without the need of using force

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He didn't want to destroy them, He himself tried to think of another way, He wanted to use Words not power. If the uchiha would've sat down with him things would've gone alot smoother for the uchiha.

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There were many way the uchiha could've solved their problems, But they chose wrong and they paid the price. Hiruzen didn't want it to happen but deep down he knew it had to be done.
As away of making up for the uchiha clans demise he took care of sasuke and made sure no harm came to him just as itachi asked of him.

And Where exactly did he talk to them about the coup?? Fact is, he LET DANZO RUN THE POLITICS OF KONOHA...... After Danzo had created ROOT.. he still let Danzo be part of Konoha's politics..

Fact : HE NEVER WENT TO THE UCHIHA.. THEY WERE KILLED BEFORE THERE WAS ANY TALK..

There also many ways your precious Konoha leader could've dealt with the problem. Your precious Hokage was one of the leaders who put the blame on the Uchiha... where did he outright say "NO, it wasn't the Uchiha" ... He LET a hidden leaf ninja be killed and sent to Kumo. Why?