Proof Bansho tenin > Susanoo

TheSages456

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umm no. in the case of bansho tenin, the user acts as a magnet. when the user puts their hand up, their choosing what direction they want to attract something from. thats basically it. nagato isnt forming any gravitational field around anyone.
 

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umm no. in the case of bansho tenin, the user acts as a magnet. when the user puts their hand up, their choosing what direction they want to attract something from. thats basically it. nagato isnt forming any gravitational field around anyone.
Scan? When has it been shown Nagato/Pain cannot attract with Basho Tenin?
Gaara simply whipped Madara from under his Sussano

Basho Tenin > Gaara sand
 

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I've actually known that for a long time.

Never the less, nice thread!
 

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Scan? When has it been shown Nagato/Pain cannot attract with Basho Tenin?
Gaara simply whipped Madara from under his Sussano

Basho Tenin > Gaara sand

when did i say that nagato cant attract things with bansho tenin? nagato is the center so his body is acting like a magnet in the case of bansho tenin & when he raises his hand, its to choose which direction he wants to attract something from. he cant attract someone if their behind susano.
 

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When will you stop acting against the Uchiha?
 

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when did i say that nagato cant attract things with bansho tenin? nagato is the center so his body is acting like a magnet in the case of bansho tenin & when he raises his hand, its to choose which direction he wants to attract something from. he cant attract someone if their behind susano.

Guess you missed the part when I said

Basho Tenin > Gaara Sand

Gaara proved that Sussano is a separate entity from the user (which Sussano is nothing more but stabled chakara). So while this fact remains true, seeing how Pain's gravitational influence has affected people/things as small as Fusaku and things as large as Gamabunta, we can assume (with Bogard's evidence) that Basho Tenin has the ability to pull an Uchiha out of Sussano
 

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I believe Banshou tenin is a underrated ability. This technique can be very useful in fights and even Susanoo is useless against it. I'll explain why:

- It has been proven by Gaara that it's possible to seperate the Susanoo user from his Susanoo:
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- It's also what Danzo intended to do with his fuuton jutsu(seperate Susanoo from Sasuke) and when he create the opening, if you look closely you'll see a area where Sasuke can move freely:

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- Here you can see Itachi outside his Susanoo:
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That means that Susanoo is just like a summoning jutsu. Only that it surrounds the user as a shield to protect himself or attack

Gaara actually needed to use the sand under Madara's feet to push him out, but for a Bansho tenin user i believe it would be easier.

The Banshou tenin attacks the center of gravity of an individual like Kakashi explains here:
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So for a Bansho tenin user, all what he needs when he faces a Susanoo user is to of the user of Susanoo outside and or something else

Now not saying it will be go that easily, but just showing how Bansho tenin can counter a Susanoo user perfectly

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Lol, Bogard and his threads....let's just get to the part where i prove you wrong.

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^Sasuke's complete Susanoo was able to withstand Baku's wind attack that had 10 times the pulling power that Bansho tenin has....a Susanoo user can simple put his Susanoo hands on the ground to avoid being pulled by the Bansho tenin....this attack great pulling power was so great it was able to pull trees from the other side of the bridge, but it still couldn't pull the Susanoo that was so close.

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^And the same time Susanoo was able to with stand a wind attack from Danzo who was pulling him towards Baku and this wasn't just a normal wind attack....Baku was increasing the power of the wind attack Danzo was using.

How Susanoo can with stand Bansho tenin? simple put the hands of the Susanoo on the ground to with stand the pulling power Bansho tenin.

Hype that Susanoo can withstand Bansho tenin? Sasuke with just complete Susanoo was able to with stand on his ground while being pulled by Baku's wind attack and the same time to with stand Danzo's wind attack which by that way was being boosted by Baku's wind.

Baku's wind pulling attack>>Bansho tenin
 

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Very nice thread.Should've known a Zoro ava nb member would do this.
 

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OP is true for the most part.
But u cant pull the user from susanoo if its enclosed, or filled with chakra, like in ribs cage
 

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Lol, Bogard and his threads....let's just get to the part where i prove you wrong.

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^Sasuke's complete Susanoo was able to withstand Baku's wind attack that had 10 times the pulling power that Bansho tenin has....a Susanoo user can simple put his Susanoo hands on the ground to avoid being pulled by the Bansho tenin....this attack great pulling power was so great it was able to pull trees from the other side of the bridge, but it still couldn't pull the Susanoo that was so close.

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^And the same time Susanoo was able to with stand a wind attack from Danzo who was pulling him towards Baku and this wasn't just a normal wind attack....Baku was increasing the power of the wind attack Danzo was using.

How Susanoo can with stand Bansho tenin? simple put the hands of the Susanoo on the ground to with stand the pulling power Bansho tenin.

Hype that Susanoo can withstand Bansho tenin? Sasuke with just complete Susanoo was able to with stand on his ground while being pulled by Baku's wind attack and the same time to with stand Danzo's wind attack which by that way was being boosted by Baku's wind.

Baku's wind pulling attack>>Bansho tenin

Tell me what would happen if Nagato used used the Same ammount of chakra a that he used to 1shot the leaf with shinra tensei and poured it into a bansho tenin?.

Saying Baku's Sucking is 10x stronger than bansho tenin when we've never even seen nagato attempted or used alot of chakra to pull something Large.

Also unlike baku's attack, Bansho tenin's pulling power is focused on one Spot, Baku's was widespread.
 
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Lol, Bogard and his threads....let's just get to the part where i prove you wrong.

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^Sasuke's complete Susanoo was able to withstand Baku's wind attack that had 10 times the pulling power that Bansho tenin has....a Susanoo user can simple put his Susanoo hands on the ground to avoid being pulled by the Bansho tenin....this attack great pulling power was so great it was able to pull trees from the other side of the bridge, but it still couldn't pull the Susanoo that was so close.

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^And the same time Susanoo was able to with stand a wind attack from Danzo who was pulling him towards Baku and this wasn't just a normal wind attack....Baku was increasing the power of the wind attack Danzo was using.

How Susanoo can with stand Bansho tenin? simple put the hands of the Susanoo on the ground to with stand the pulling power Bansho tenin.

Hype that Susanoo can withstand Bansho tenin? Sasuke with just complete Susanoo was able to with stand on his ground while being pulled by Baku's wind attack and the same time to with stand Danzo's wind attack which by that way was being boosted by Baku's wind.

Baku's wind pulling attack>>Bansho tenin
Sasuke's susano didnt withstand the attack. Danzo's plan would had worked had Sasuke not used that fire jutsu. Sasuke's susano was split.
 

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Lol, Bogard and his threads....let's just get to the part where i prove you wrong.

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^Sasuke's complete Susanoo was able to withstand Baku's wind attack that had 10 times the pulling power that Bansho tenin has....a Susanoo user can simple put his Susanoo hands on the ground to avoid being pulled by the Bansho tenin....this attack great pulling power was so great it was able to pull trees from the other side of the bridge, but it still couldn't pull the Susanoo that was so close.

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^And the same time Susanoo was able to with stand a wind attack from Danzo who was pulling him towards Baku and this wasn't just a normal wind attack....Baku was increasing the power of the wind attack Danzo was using.

How Susanoo can with stand Bansho tenin? simple put the hands of the Susanoo on the ground to with stand the pulling power Bansho tenin.

Hype that Susanoo can withstand Bansho tenin? Sasuke with just complete Susanoo was able to with stand on his ground while being pulled by Baku's wind attack and the same time to with stand Danzo's wind attack which by that way was being boosted by Baku's wind.

Baku's wind pulling attack>>Bansho tenin
Did you even read the thread correctly? Bansho tenin doesn't work like Baku's suction. Baku's suction attacks externally when Banso tenin attacks internally(it attacks the center of gravity). You only proved Susanoo resistance. Sasuke =/= Susanoo. Susanoo may be able to resist, but Sasuke himself has a center of gravity. Bansho tenin = Sasuke out of Susanoo. Comprendo?
 

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Guess you missed the part when I said

Basho Tenin > Gaara Sand

Gaara proved that Sussano is a separate entity from the user (which Sussano is nothing more but stabled chakara). So while this fact remains true, seeing how Pain's gravitational influence has affected people/things as small as Fusaku and things as large as Gamabunta, we can assume (with Bogard's evidence) that Basho Tenin has the ability to pull an Uchiha out of Sussano

when are you going to realize that saying things like bansho tenin>gaaras sand is meaningless? i told you how bansho tenin works. gaara went under susano while the person using bansho tenin acts as a magnet which means that if something is in front the person nagato is trying to attract(susano) the person cant be pulled.
 

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Sasuke's susano didnt withstand the attack. Danzo's plan would had worked had Sasuke not used that fire jutsu. Sasuke's susano was split.

WTF are talking about?

The fact is Sasuke withstand Baku's wind pulling attack and unlike Danzo....Pain won't have someone behind Sasuke to pull towards him.

Sasuke withstand one wind pulling attack while he tried his best against the other....Pain won't have that disadvantage on Sasuke or any other Susanoo user.
 
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WTF are talking about?
The fact is Sasuke withstand Baku's wind pulling and unlike Danzo....Pain won't have someone behind Sasuke to pull towards him.
Sasuke withstand one wind pull while he tried his best against the other....Pain won't have that disadvantage on Sasuke.

True, not to mention kakashi was resisting it with some chain.
 

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I agree..being able to control gravity is a very dangerous power.
 

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when are you going to realize that saying things like bansho tenin>gaaras sand is meaningless? i told you how bansho tenin works. gaara went under susano while the person using bansho tenin acts as a magnet which means that if something is in front the person nagato is trying to attract(susano) the person cant be pulled.

If what you're saying was true, how was Itachi able to stand outside of his Sussano? That means things can enter and leave Sussano at will. Like I said before, Gaara proved that Sussano is a separate entity from the user. If Nagato/Pain focuses Basho Tenin on the user, then he can pull them out. Simple
 
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