Proof Bansho tenin > Susanoo

[Bogard]

I believe Banshou tenin is a underrated ability. This technique can be very useful in fights and even Susanoo is useless against it. I'll explain why:

- It has been proven by Gaara that it's possible to seperate the Susanoo user from his Susanoo:

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- It's also what Danzo intended to do with his fuuton jutsu(seperate Susanoo from Sasuke) and when he create the opening, if you look closely you'll see a area where Sasuke can move freely:

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- Here you can see Itachi outside his Susanoo:

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That means that Susanoo is just like a summoning jutsu. Only that it surrounds the user as a shield to protect himself or attack

Gaara actually needed to use the sand under Madara's feet to push him out, but for a Bansho tenin user i believe it would be easier.

The Banshou tenin attacks the center of gravity of an individual like Kakashi explains here:

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So for a Bansho tenin user, all what he needs when he faces a Susanoo user is to

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of the user of Susanoo outside and

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or something else

Now not saying it will be go that easily, but just showing how Bansho tenin can counter a Susanoo user perfectly

Hope you enjoyed reading U_U

 

[HadouKage]

Nicely put, can't rep you tho, don't know why

 

[medal32]

Sounds interesting, I can already see this NOT turning into a flame war with a civilized conversation ahead

 

[johnny scars]

i agree... but cant the susanoo user just cast another susanoo again :/

 

[TruthLover19]

Seems legit

 

[Bogard]

i agree... but cant the susanoo user just cast another susanoo again :/

Apparently it's impossible to activate another susanoo after already activating one before

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[Noni]

your right i also believe its more of a summon then actual jutsu, but if bansho pulls the user but they are inside susanoo what would happen? if there outside i see your point though. Nicely put nonetheless

 

[Bogard]

Nicely put, can't rep you tho, don't know why

Grr that damn system Thanks anyway

Sounds interesting, I can already see this NOT turning into a flame war with a civilized conversation ahead

Haha i hope, thanks man

 

[Pragmatic]

Your funny. Susanoo could be moved with the caster.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Yet another Uchiha counter has been found. Itachi and Sasuke aint looking so well.

 

[Rafeal brown]

That was an incomplete susanoo bro....
The same trick won't work against a complete or final version of the susanoo let alone P.S.

 

[The Necromancer]

Gaara also had to have his sand tightly holding down madara's susano'o. Also it was the incomplete form of susano'o in every case. It may be possible up through incomplete versions, but i don't see that happening in complete or perfect susano'o.

 

[HadouKage]

Your funny. Susanoo could be moved with the caster.

So explain why Madara didn't move his

 

[duken fist]

gooodd!! this can shut up this ppl who overrate susanoo

 

[GwemBaba]

Nice job Bogard my man, always thought this, though people will still be in denial.

 

[Frikid]

lol wtf is this :sy:

are you aware of the fact that a susano user is also covered with chakra. One cannot simply pull someone out of susano like that,susano is a strong defense, it has a rib cage of its own. So even in the first form of susano, he needs to break through the susano's rib cage to get him out.
Also, since bansho tenin follows the principle of gravity, it has to be near the susano user to be able to give an effective pull, and going near a susano user is suicide.

And if i was a susano user and someone tried to pull me with bansho tenin, then i would just cancel my susano , let him pull me and when i reach near him, i would quickly bring out a susano hand and crush him before he even gets to me .

 

[HadouKage]

lol wtf is this :sy:

are you aware of the fact that a susano user is also covered with chakra. One cannot simply pull someone out of susano like that,susano is a strong defense, it has a rib cage of its own. So even in the first form of susano, he needs to break through the susano's rib cage to get him out.
Also, since bansho tenin follows the principle of gravity, it has to be near the susano user to be able to give an effective pull, and going near a susano user is suicide.

And if i was a susano user and someone tried to pull me with bansho tenin, then i would just cancel my susano , let him pull me and when i reach near him, i would quickly bring out a susano hand and crush him before he even gets to me .

???? What?

Pain has the ability to amplify the magnitude of his jutsu, so this is irrelevant

 

[Bogard]

That was an incomplete susanoo bro....
The same trick won't work against a complete or final version of the susanoo let alone P.S.

Susanoo whether perfect or not follow the same logic starting by a ribcage ending with a ultimate shield, all that made of chakra. So if it's possible to seperate a susanoo user from his summon(Susanoo) in a ribcage version or Version1 or whatever, then it means it's possible to seperate him no matter which version he uses. Only the means or possibilities change or becomes more difficult depending on the version, but like i've said on the thread, the Bansho tenin is particularly useful because it's a technique that doesn't even need to attack the Susanoo itself to seperate him. Regardless of the form of Susanoo, he only needs to attract the center of gravity of the Susanoo user outside it

Gaara also had to have his sand tightly holding down madara's susano'o. Also it was the incomplete form of susano'o in every case. It may be possible up through incomplete versions, but i don't see that happening in complete or perfect susano'o.

Read above. Also, i've shown a pic where Nagato could use 2Bansho tenin at the same time. If he really needs, he can simply attract Susanoo away with one hand and attract the user with another hand

 

[i OblivioN i]

LOL, that was incomplete Susanoo.

 

[Exaar]

lol wtf is this :sy:

are you aware of the fact that a susano user is also covered with chakra. One cannot simply pull someone out of susano like that,susano is a strong defense, it has a rib cage of its own. So even in the first form of susano, he needs to break through the susano's rib cage to get him out.
Also, since bansho tenin follows the principle of gravity, it has to be near the susano user to be able to give an effective pull, and going near a susano user is suicide.

And if i was a susano user and someone tried to pull me with bansho tenin, then i would just cancel my susano , let him pull me and when i reach near him, i would quickly bring out a susano hand and crush him before he even gets to me .

As far as i remember, Gaara didn't need to Break susanoo or attack it directly to Pull Madara Out of it.

Also bansho tenin into Preta path > Your Bolded plan Or Bansho tenin and use a small shinra tensei to deflect the punch Then into Human path to say bye bye to your soul