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I've seen a lot of people say that ABC logic doesn't work and what most of them don't seem to understand is that ABC logic has never been wrong. Here are some easy examples and then a few hard ones:

Gaara > Chouji

Naruto > Gaara. Therefore, Naruto > Chouji



Kakashi (Original Naruto) > Zabuza

Tsunade > Kakashi (Original Naruto). Therefore, Tsunade > Zabuza


Minato > Sakura

Sakura > White Zetsu. Therefore, Minato > White Zetsu



Here's a hard one but it still works:


Darui > Edo Gin & Kin medium difficulty

Gin & Kin > Tobirama & Raikage low diff. Therefore, Darui > Tobirama. (Based on given knowledge)


So for all of you saying that ABC doesn't work, think twice next time.
 

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PLOT NO JUTSU >>> ABC logic

Minato > tobi

Tobi > itachi n nagato, so minato > itachi n nagato make sense lol
 

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It doesn't work because in the Narutoworld, any single factor can affect a fight. For example we don't know the circumstances of Kin and Gin vs Tobirama, or if those circumstances can ever happen again, so we can't conclude for a fact that Kin and Gin>Tobirama, so your conclusion that Darui>Tobirama is flawed.

Also, Darui survived that fight on pure luck, they had him beat.
 

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yeah abc do work :D you dont have to be a rocket scientist to know who can beat who and who cant! great post dude ^_^
 

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I've seen a lot of people say that ABC logic doesn't work and what most of them don't seem to understand is that ABC logic has never been wrong. Here are some easy examples and then a few hard ones:

Gaara > Chouji

Naruto > Gaara. Therefore, Naruto > Chouji



Kakashi (Original Naruto) > Zabuza

Tsunade > Kakashi (Original Naruto). Therefore, Tsunade > Zabuza


Minato > Sakura

Sakura > White Zetsu. Therefore, Minato > White Zetsu



Here's a hard one but it still works:


Darui > Edo Gin & Kin medium difficulty

Gin & Kin > Tobirama & Raikage low diff. Therefore, Darui > Tobirama. (Based on given knowledge)


So for all of you saying that ABC doesn't work, think twice next time.

it doesnt work for everybody. but it appiles to fodder
 

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PLOT NO JUTSU >>> ABC logic

Minato > tobi

Tobi > itachi n nagato, so minato > itachi n nagato make sense lol

Minato fought Tobi/Obito when he was 14 and inexperienced.

It doesn't work because in the Narutoworld, any single factor can affect a fight. For example we don't know the circumstances of Kin and Gin vs Tobirama, or if those circumstances can ever happen again, so we can't conclude for a fact that Kin and Gin>Tobirama, so your conclusion that Darui>Tobirama is flawed.

Also, Darui survived that fight on pure luck, they had him beat.

That's why I wrote 'based on given knowledge' it was luck but you yourself said any single factor influences a fight ;)

yeah abc do work :D you dont have to be a rocket scientist to know who can beat who and who cant! great post dude ^_^

Exactly!
 

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Oh god, not this debate again. ABC logic does not work with Naruto. Theres too many unknown variables in the fights; characters seem to pull shit out of their asses at times, or things just happen to play in their odds at times. Plus theres the issue of plot. Plot deems that at times certain characters need to progress in order to serve their purpose later on.

Heres an example of this: Kisame=Killer Bee (Now this fight alone proves my point about conditions, but for the sake of ABC logic, lets just keep it simple and say they are even). According to you ABC logic enthusiasts, Guy>Kisame, and if Kisame=Bee, then Guy>Bee. This does not work.
 
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What a pathetic excuse, according to ur logic ABC logic always works seems like it doesnt
 

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Actually; the fighting styles are very determining at fights; everyone has weak and strong spots and different techniques; some times a weaker opponent might have something in their arsenal that might counter to the stronger one; like Sakura's antitode and physical strength against Sasori, or Shikamaru defeating Hidan with strategy and finding gaps.
 

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Nice post is great to see someone who can make abc logic work good job!
 

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Oh god, not this debate again. ABC logic does not work with Naruto. Theres too many unknown variables in the fights; characters seem to pull shit out of their asses at times, or things just happen to play in their odds at times. Plus theres the issue of plot. Plot deems that at times certain characters need to progress in order to serve their purpose later on.

Heres an example of this: Kisame=Killer Bee (Now this fight alone proves my point about conditions, but for the sake of ABC logic, lets just keep it simple and say they are even). According to you ABC logic enthusiasts, Guy>Kisame, and if Kisame=Bee, then Guy>Bee. This does not work.


Guy + 8 Gates is stronger than Bee. He sacrifices himself but defeats Bee, it's an awkward stalemate
 

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Guy + 8 Gates is stronger than Bee. He sacrifices himself but defeats Bee, it's an awkward stalemate

Heres one that I think proves it too everyone that ABC logic DOES NOT WORK.

Sakura>Sasori, but Sasori>3rd Kazekage, so Sakura>3rd Kazekage. NO
 

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What a pathetic excuse, according to ur logic ABC logic always works seems like it doesnt

What else does it 'seem' like? Whole point of this thread, duh.

Nice post is great to see someone who can make abc logic work good job!

Thanks, great to see someone agree with me ;)

Most people just cling onto their inner fanboy/girl
 

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In logic you must have a subject and a predicated and in order for them to be connected you need a middle term that clearly shows the connection. This the basic Aristotelian logic using language and definition of terms. Modern logic is mathematics and dose not always take into account definition of linguistically terms nor reality as is. We live in the real world and language is the medium we use to convey ideas, so we must define our rearms so we have a frame of reference to have a discussion. Without definition of terms that are recognize as Universal by all we can't have a discussion nor come to a conclusion that we can agree to, or disagree to. So first we must all agree to what are the definition of our terms.
 
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