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o-o. imagination is so highly used in that post.
Thats why they wore a armor
So you agree then that the Uzumakis were a priestly clan?
The Sage of Six Path's original lineage is from... Juugo's Clan
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So you agree then that the Uzumakis were a priestly clan?
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Of course The Uzumakis are also related to the Uchihas, that is why the Reaper Death Unseal required the Uzumaki mask and the Uchiha Tablet in order to unseal the Reaper Lol
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You must have them confused with the Uchiha ;].So you agree then that the Uzumakis were a priestly clan?
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The explanation given by Obito about the shrine deals with the RINNEGAN and the JUUBI/JINCHURIKI. The death reaper unseal was known by Orochimaru (on his hidden scroll) BEFORE they went to that location, he never had Uchiha Eyes and knew he needed the mask before they got there. Orochimaru explains the process for Unlocking the reaper jutsu by cutting its belly BEFORE they ever reach that location. What in the hell did he need from the shrine itself to do the unseal...? Do you even truly know why Kishi has them there yet? NO.
FYI, to "activate" the mask... HE PUT IT ON. LMAO
We both know NO Uchiha has ever used a Reaper Seal, ONLY SENJU. That tablet has yet to imply knowing ANYTHING about this death reaper seal. And Obito (and Uchiha) says otherwise... FYI even his Moons Eye Plan has NOTHING to do with the Death Reaper Seal...
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You are denying the elephant in the room, the Uchiha Tablet was the catalyst for The Reaper Death Unseal
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The object (Uchiha Tablet) in reference of what Sasuke was referring to was of immediate use to Sasuke's intentions (talking with the Hokages) and immediately after referring to the tablet, the image of the object itself was shown in the next panel. And lighting the torches at the tablet afterwards.
The mere fact that Orochimaru and others gathered AROUND the tablet is indicative of the ritualistic importance of the Tablet to the unsealing ritual.
The fact that Orochimaru was facing and crouching in front of the Tablet is indicative of the Tablet's necessity
The fact that Orochimaru donned the mask in front if the Tablet and crouched and looked at the Tablet at the moment of the RDS Unseal activated is indicative of the Tablet's vital role in the process.
The elephant in the room (Uchiha Tablet)
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• Itz plain idiocy to even come to such a unreasonable conclusion because the sage only sealing jutsu shown was the jinchuriki method & his items
• The sage with his rinnegan discovered chakra & all ninjutsu in turn he may/most likely was the 1st user of sealing jutsu (if some brawd taught him why didn't said brawd & clan unite & seal the monster ravishing the land )
• Uzimaki are not the only sealing specialist & aren't the only people able to use seals
Its just very farfetched dude I can't cosign
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U & I both know you make no sense and are reaching!!!You are denying the elephant in the room, the Uchiha Tablet was the catalyst for The Reaper Death Unseal
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The object (Uchiha Tablet) in reference of what Sasuke was referring to was of immediate use to Sasuke's intentions (talking with the Hokages) and immediately after referring to the tablet, the image of the object itself was shown in the next panel. And lighting the torches at the tablet afterwards.
The mere fact that Orochimaru and others gathered AROUND the tablet is indicative of the ritualistic importance of the Tablet to the unsealing ritual.
The fact that Orochimaru was facing and crouching in front of the Tablet is indicative of the Tablet's necessity
The fact that Orochimaru donned the mask in front if the Tablet and crouched and looked at the Tablet at the moment of the RDS Unseal activated is indicative of the Tablet's vital role in the process.
The elephant in the room (Uchiha Tablet)
The "catalyst" is the one who puts on the mask & cuts they're belly
The uchiha have no ties with the uzimaki WHO can't even read the tablet
Why would the uzimaki predicate their jutsu on the uchihas item? Ever ponder that
Its not like oro touched the tablet or the tablet shined or reacted at all
He simply stepped forward away from sasuke & taka nothing more
Mask &, the reaper have nothing to do with the tablet the reason they're there is, its secure private & there's a tablet sasuke needs to read more of now that his eyes can do so
U tripping man reading too much into this "elephant"
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1. I never said that the Uzumaki were the Sage's Ancestors, I just said he learned the sealing technique from them. I highly doubt he "created" it himself without the Rinnegan which was used to create ALL JUTSU, unless this knowledge was already available.
2. The manga doesnt say the Sage used any other help to seal the Juubi because NO OTHER HUMAN could do it. He alone had the senjutsu power (his body) to draw in infinite Natural Energy, which is needed for someone to seal something with infinite nature energy.
3. The Uzumaki arent the only sealing experts, but remember this is a time before NINJUTSU was even created. THe Fuuinjutsu of the Uzumaki clan was described by kushina as "crude in their methods" as in the technique is very unrefined but effective. They are known for their extremely long lives, its not uncommon to believe their clan existed during the time of the SO6P. I just dont believe he was an Uzumaki anymore, but Kishi will reveal soon.
As for the question of the Shrine, Orochimaru laid out EACH AND EVERY STEP for unlocking the Reaper Jutsu before reaching the Naka Shrine. Obtaining the mask. Putting it on and letting the Deamon possess your body. Cutting its belly to release the souls inside. Obtaining his arms to perform the Edo Tensei after the unsealing. We have YET to know the true reason why Orochimaru brought them there, but I guarantee it wasnt to learn how to do an Uzumaki technique. But your correct... we will soon see what was the purpose for this elephant in the room...
PS--I've never known any Uzumaki to have HORNS on their head...
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You are denying the elephant in the room, the Uchiha Tablet was the catalyst for The Reaper Death Unseal
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The object (Uchiha Tablet) in reference of what Sasuke was referring to was of immediate use to Sasuke's intentions (talking with the Hokages) and immediately after referring to the tablet, the image of the object itself was shown in the next panel. And lighting the torches at the tablet afterwards.
The mere fact that Orochimaru and others gathered AROUND the tablet is indicative of the ritualistic importance of the Tablet to the unsealing ritual.
The fact that Orochimaru was facing and crouching in front of the Tablet is indicative of the Tablet's necessity
The fact that Orochimaru donned the mask in front if the Tablet and crouched and looked at the Tablet at the moment of the RDS Unseal activated is indicative of the Tablet's vital role in the process.
The elephant in the room (Uchiha Tablet)
Sooo.....
The Sage, whom did NOT agree with the Elder Son and think POWER was the key .... Put secrets about the Uzumaki's Clan's POWER on a scroll destined to be read by ONLY the Uchiha clan lineage...
...and the Uzumaki, who are related to the Uchiha Clan, and agreed with the Sage's decision... and didnt even treaty with their own blood relative family of the Elder Son (but did with the Senju as we can see from the Manga)... but allowed their clan's secrets (of the Death Reaper Seal) to be given to the family of the Son they did not alliance with.... knowing even THEM could never read it since they did not have the EYES of the sage...? Makes no sense sir...
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The scroll can be read by anyone. Oro was able to read it, what are you talking about? :|
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Jugo Clan members who get chosen get to become mad and get place in a cage and only let out to kill and main others not a happy ending unless your mad.
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I agree the sage maybe of jugos clan
But from the looks of things the sage either was a monk priest meaning if anything his temple likely taught sealing jutsu BUT seals take chakra which the sage himself discovered how to use
Now I don't see how the uzimaki clan could've possibly exist before the sage seeing they have his successors traits
Clearly he had the strong body if other people with strong bodies were around & had sealing jutsu y didn't any seal the juubi period the uzimaki ddidn't exist till the younger son had offspring
But from the looks of things the sage either was a monk priest meaning if anything his temple likely taught sealing jutsu BUT seals take chakra which the sage himself discovered how to use
Now I don't see how the uzimaki clan could've possibly exist before the sage seeing they have his successors traits
Clearly he had the strong body if other people with strong bodies were around & had sealing jutsu y didn't any seal the juubi period the uzimaki ddidn't exist till the younger son had offspring
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Someone tell me y this guy is going on about the scroll?
The scroll has nothing to do with the tablet its all about the uzimaki which orochimaru did years of research on....
Also they went through the steps & content of the scroll not even one step referred to the uchiha tablet (which only sasuke at the moment can decipher)
The scroll has nothing to do with the tablet its all about the uzimaki which orochimaru did years of research on....
Also they went through the steps & content of the scroll not even one step referred to the uchiha tablet (which only sasuke at the moment can decipher)
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Scroll? Dude who's sounding crazy now. We were talking about the Shrine, NOT scroll. My point was EVERYTHING about the Death Reaper Seal was already on the SCROLL, no need to read the tablet for this info. lol
Thank you kind sir.
The Sage discovered the TRUTH of chakra, he did not discover chakra itself. Chakra was already being used by Samurai. I'm guessing he discovered the truth about chakra after obtaining the Rinnegan, of how it is connected to all elements AND life/death itself. These powers were awakened by the Rinnegan.
Now this is the only thing I agree with Derp.... that the Uzumaki Clan may have been a priestly clan, who devised a technique called sealing jutsu. It probably was some variant of the sealing they learned from being guardians of the Death Reaper Masks. They were destroyed because these sealing techniques were so powerful, but they were never shown to be warriors (although they did have armor and weapons). I believe the Sage, being from Juugo's clan and having uncontrollable blood lusts, sought after a priesthood to help him contain his anger and the Uzumaki Clan were a perfect match.
No Uzumaki could seal something as powerful as the Juubi. THey had sealing techniques true, but this isnt enough. The most powerful Sealing technique was barely able to seal Kurama! I say the Sage had the "body" to natually absourb nature's energy infinitly, which would make him the only person able to actually seal the Juubi which also has infinite access to nature chakra.