Why Madara did not beat hashirama with Tsukyomi or genjutsu ?I smell PNJ
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Because Mokuton would snap him out of it, if he ever got hit by genjutsu. His Mokuton became a seperate living thing which could act on its on will. The same with Zetsu. Zetsu cannnot be affected by genjutsu either.
1. Hashi likely had so much chakra that he could force his way out of a genjutsu. He already has shown he has some good chakra control(aka weakness of genjutsu, is a person with good chakra control)
2. Raikage only got caught in the genjutsu, after looking madara in the eye. You dont look an uchiha in the eye, you dont get caught.
3. There has been no proof, that any genjutsu at all will work on a perfect jin.(tsukyomi included)
4. If madara tried a genjutsu on hashi in the past, and hashi was able to break out, he wont use genjutsu, because it is ineffective
5. Hashi has one of the strongest genjutsus ever, and it is a perfect counter for a sharingan user.(bringer of darkness)
A final way to understand what you are saying.
You have 3 sports you can choose to play. You would have equal fun playing each sport. You are really good at 1 sport , and ok at the other 2.
Which sport would you choose? The one you are the best at.
Same way with ninjas. Some are good at all, while best at 1, some are great at all, and have no best, and some are terrible at all but 1
(ninjas use genjutsu, ninjutsu, and taijutsu)
SO why madara didnt beat hashi with genjutsu, is because he was better at ninjutsu, and taijutsu. HE was not a master of genjutsu, or very good at useing it in battle. This is most likely the best answer there is, without kishi elaborating.
Seriously though, people need to stop overating genjutsu. It is not a 1 shot 1 kill, even tsukuyomi.(though it comes close)
final question....do you honestly think, that the senjus, and hashi, who FOUGHT UCHIHA FOR A LIVING, would not become skilled at countering genjutsu?
It COULD be pnj, if madara NEVER attempted genjutsu on hashi in his life.
LAstly, madara has never used tsuykomi. The genjutsu the raikage was in, was simply a sharingan genjutsu like sasuke used.
only itachi has been shown to use high level genjutsu.(shishu has not been shown, so i did not include him, as not much is known about his fighting style and abilities)
2. Raikage only got caught in the genjutsu, after looking madara in the eye. You dont look an uchiha in the eye, you dont get caught.
3. There has been no proof, that any genjutsu at all will work on a perfect jin.(tsukyomi included)
4. If madara tried a genjutsu on hashi in the past, and hashi was able to break out, he wont use genjutsu, because it is ineffective
5. Hashi has one of the strongest genjutsus ever, and it is a perfect counter for a sharingan user.(bringer of darkness)
A final way to understand what you are saying.
You have 3 sports you can choose to play. You would have equal fun playing each sport. You are really good at 1 sport , and ok at the other 2.
Which sport would you choose? The one you are the best at.
Same way with ninjas. Some are good at all, while best at 1, some are great at all, and have no best, and some are terrible at all but 1
(ninjas use genjutsu, ninjutsu, and taijutsu)
SO why madara didnt beat hashi with genjutsu, is because he was better at ninjutsu, and taijutsu. HE was not a master of genjutsu, or very good at useing it in battle. This is most likely the best answer there is, without kishi elaborating.
Seriously though, people need to stop overating genjutsu. It is not a 1 shot 1 kill, even tsukuyomi.(though it comes close)
final question....do you honestly think, that the senjus, and hashi, who FOUGHT UCHIHA FOR A LIVING, would not become skilled at countering genjutsu?
It COULD be pnj, if madara NEVER attempted genjutsu on hashi in his life.
LAstly, madara has never used tsuykomi. The genjutsu the raikage was in, was simply a sharingan genjutsu like sasuke used.
only itachi has been shown to use high level genjutsu.(shishu has not been shown, so i did not include him, as not much is known about his fighting style and abilities)
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the genjustsu is over wanked on here, it cannot be used to defeat anyone smart enough not to look in th eye, u mad uchiha famboys? Lol
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This ^ . Thanks for pointing that out. My argument was going to be that Hashi had experience fighting Madara on a daily basis therefore must have found a loophole around his genjutsu. I mean come on now, if it was that easy to defeat Hashi wouldn't the Uchiha have won and had dominance over the hidden leaf?
We all know the answer to that,yes Senju DNA
But seriously I don't think that only Hashirama can counter Genjutsu, other senjus might also be able to do it otherwise how were they stronger than uchihas, or they dont let them get caught in genjutsu in the first place.
But seriously I don't think that only Hashirama can counter Genjutsu, other senjus might also be able to do it otherwise how were they stronger than uchihas, or they dont let them get caught in genjutsu in the first place.
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pateuvasiliu
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Madara would have tried using genjutsu on Hashirama at some stage through out there clashes and realised he couldn't beat him with that alone come on people use some common sense and don't read so much into things.
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may be there is some ways to counter even the greatest of the genjutsu
we just don't know yet
quote - every jutsu has a weakness ,
we just don't know yet
quote - every jutsu has a weakness ,
