Why Madara did not beat hashirama with Tsukyomi or genjutsu ?I smell PNJ

[Uchicha Macho]

Madara have tsukuyomi because he need it for his moon eyes plan

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The known weakness of tsukuyomi is a uchiha descendent with sharingan and tailbeast host (only for sasuke tsukuyomi) can break out of tsukyomi.Hashirama did not have any tailbeasts along with him to fight Madara in any battle we have seen.We knew hashirama had tailbeasts for certain period of time before he distributed them to other villiages for peace.


Madara could also end hashirama similar to the raikage with genjutsu

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[bigfatloser]

hashi cannot be defeated with genjutsu has he was a jinkuri to the 9-tails at the time.

 

[saw2097]

Hashirama fought and killed Uchiha daily, he probably had a way to break genjutsu.

 

[Uchicha Macho]

hashi cannot be defeated with genjutsu has he was a jinkuri to the 9-tails at the time.

WHAT THE HELL U TALKING ABOUT.?He was not any host to Kurama because he would have die when madara had possesion of the 9 tail

 

[Kages]

Hashirama was also skilled in Genjutsu, like the one he used on Hiruzen.

 

[The Necromancer]

hashi cannot be defeated with genjutsu has he was a jinkuri to the 9-tails at the time.

That's just absolutely not true.

 

[SenseiMartian]

Maybe Hashirama just kept Madara too busy to land genjutsu on him? Or perhaps Hashirama had trained himself to defend against genjutsu, especially sharingan genjutsu?
I don't know, I am just tossing out possible things, but you could be right with the whole PNJ thing.

 

[DylanSwerve]

Asking this question in the thread makes me wonder the extent of Hashirama's ability. He must have been the kid on the playground that had the power to "have all powers".

 

[FireBird Marco]

I think Senju Body is immune to Uchia genjutsu! just a thought though!

 

[-Raviel-]

Senju DNA is a shield for genjutsu

 

[Katkot]

Don't overrate uchiha like they are masters of genjutsu .
Itachi is the only uchiha who master genjutsu perfectly ..

 

[accept pain]

when you fight with someone strong,gengetsu has no roll in it

 

[Uchicha Macho]

Maybe Hashirama just kept Madara too busy to land genjutsu on him? Or perhaps Hashirama had trained himself to defend against genjutsu, especially sharingan genjutsu?
I don't know, I am just tossing out possible things, but you could be right with the whole PNJ thing.

what about tsukuyomi,Madara have that MS skill and Hashirama was not any tail beasts

 

[Uchicha Macho]

when you fight with someone strong,gengetsu has no roll in it

I guess u kishimoto.Raikage is a high level ninja that known about Itachi skills (mention itachi skill in kage summit) but still got fodderize by a normal genjutsu

 

[Minator93]

Genjutsu of that level does not work against Shodie Hashirama U_U

 

[Uchicha Macho]

Genjutsu of that level does not work against Shodie Hashirama U_U

what about tsukyomi ,Kishimoto?

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Hashirama had a very strong life force

 

[accept pain]

what about tsukyomi ,Kishimoto?

ask itachi to trap naruto,nagato,hashi and minato in gengetsu now...they will tell itachi the true pain

 

[Transcendence]

Hashirama was equally as skilled in Genjutsu as Madara, so it would of been futile to use Genjutsu on someone who would of obviously known the secrets to breaking out of it.

Also, there are no true Genjutsu masters other than Itachi, Kurenai and arguably Shisui.

 

[Percy Jackson]

Was it because he was a senju? Was it because he train both of his eyes to resist genjutsu? (like deidara did, except he train with both of his eyes instead of one eye and on much higher degree) was it because the genjutsu chakra was disturbed by his wood and cancelled the genjutsu (just like jiraya told naruto how to escape from genjutsu with the help of 2 comrades except this one the wood with chakra are his comreads).

or simply just plot no jutsu