[Theory] The Genealogy Of The Uzumaki, Hyuuga, Senju And Uchiha Clans

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I'm not mentioning what you said, but what Kakashi had mentioned back then. Which like I just said, we now know is incorrect based on everything we know now about S06P. I'm actually surprised that people still refer back to that.

What Kakashi said was that the Uchiha's lineage comes from the Hyuugas, the sharingan and byakuugan are "similar" he said because they're both Dojutsus so there is no contradiction with Kakashi's statement and plot canon Lol

 

[Sot viing hun]

If you went by that, the Byakugan would have been directly descended from the SO6P.

Funny enough, Kakashi didn't even think that the S06P and the Rinnegan existed.

I think you're the one who needs to start reading this manga, please GTFO.

We haven't went by what Kakashi said then because we know it's wrong now. The Sharingan is the successor of the Rinnegan and S06P.

So let's just discard Kakashi's statement about the byakugan because we know the sharingan comes from the rinnegan.

Your 'logic' makes no sense, I prefer going by what the manga says until is proven otherwise, so if you choose to ignore that panel is up to you and your kind, not my problem.

Byakugan's relation to sharingan has not been proven wrong yet, that's my point.

 

[Invsblphntm]

Hahaha yes m8, I knew you were going to use this theory one, I just knew it!

 

[adeshina365]

In another quote Kakashi claims that the Sharingan is a mutation of the Byakugan....

If you're still going by Kakashi's statements then lol.

What you should be going by is the history of the S06P and his successors. Going by that the Byakugan is completely unrelated to the Sharingan until Kishimoto says otherwise.

If you can't accept that, then please GTFO.

You're acting like the people who once thought that Hiruzen was the strongest Hokage based on a quote from Iruka.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

In another quote Kakashi claims that the Sharingan is a mutation of the Byakugan....

If you're still going by Kakashi's statements then lol.

What you should be going by is the history of the S06P and his successors. Going by that the Byakugan is completely unrelated to the Sharingan.

If you can't accept that, then please GTFO.

Just admit it you're a NaruSaku fan Lol

It's the only logical relationship between the oldest clan in Konoha (Hyuuga) and the longest living clan's (Uzumaki) unless you're proposing Rikudou gave birth himself to his two sons Lol

The parallels are strong, to reject that is to merely deny the elephant in the room like what you're doing

 

[Sot viing hun]

In another quote Kakashi claims that the Sharingan is a mutation of the Byakugan....

If you're still going by Kakashi's statements then lol.

What you should be going by is the history of the S06P and his successors. Going by that the Byakugan is completely unrelated to the Sharingan until Kishimoto says otherwise.

If you can't accept that, then please GTFO.

You're acting like the people who once thought that Hiruzen was the strongest Hokage based on a quote from Iruka.

I asked you for proof of Kakashi's statement being retconned, too bad you haven't got any so you keep derailing the subject at hand, I'll go by it until is proven that byakugan has no relation at all to it, but do keep spewing idiocy and saying how or not I act and how I'm like Hiruzen fans.

 

[adeshina365]

Just admit it you're a NaruSaku fan Lol

It's the only logical relationship between the oldest clan in Konoha (Hyuuga) and the longest living clan's (Uzumaki) unless you're proposing Rikudou gave birth himself to his two sons Lol

The parallels are strong, to reject that is to merely deny the elephant in the room like what you're doing)

Why does there have to be a relationship between the two? The Uchiha and the Senju were the only clans to start out with, other clans (first the Hyuuga) followed afterward.

For all we know the S06P wife was a random women until Kishi says otherwise, please stop fabricating history.

I asked you for proof of Kakashi's statement being retconned, too bad you haven't got any so you keep derailing the subject at hand, I'll go by it until is proven that byakugan has no relation at all to it, but do keep spewing idiocy and saying how or not I act and how I'm like Hiruzen fans.

You're blind.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Thank you so much for neg repping me adenisha365 unfortunately your rep power is too low to be significant, too bad

 

[adeshina365]

Thank you so much for neg repping me adenisha365 unfortunately your rep power is too low to be significant, too bad

You're trying to hard.

 

[Sot viing hun]

You're ****ing blind.

Yeah, sure, I'm blind, you haven't proven that byakugan has nothing to do with sharingan/rinnegan at all, just that the sharigan is related to the rinnegan, but If you say so.

I'm out.

Thank you so much for neg repping me adenisha365 unfortunately your rep power is too low to be significant, too bad

Lmao, so he's a bitch negger? Not surprised.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

You're trying to hard.

Look who's talking, neg repping me with such feeble rep power. Lol

PS: "too" not "to" Lol

 

[-Raviel-]

Seems legit enough :scorps:

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Seems legit enough :scorps:

Thank you!

 

[Minator93]

This is gold. Bye bye Naru-saku fans Lol

Naru-Hina was destined from the Sage's time XD

 

[BigGuns Reloaded]

Awful just awful


The sage is not an uzimaki (stop, with this myth it leads to misinformation)

At this current point the hyuuga aren't even in the family tree

The sage is uchiha & senju in one


The sage already had the rinnegan before he fought the juubi

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

This is gold. Bye bye Naru-saku fans Lol

Naru-Hina was destined from the Sage's time XD

Most probably so Lol

 

[Bacon]

Ayo I mess with this.. I definitely think the sage was Uzumaki
I'm just confused tho. The sage's shorty already had byakugan? Would that mean they already had justu or chakra before the sage came through or na?

 

[Nami Usagi]

As much as I dislike parallels...

This was very well thought out :O

 

[BigGuns Reloaded]

So let's just discard Kakashi's statement about the byakugan because we know the sharingan comes from the rinnegan.

Your 'logic' makes no sense, I prefer going by what the manga says until is proven otherwise, so if you choose to ignore that panel is up to you and your kind, not my problem.

Byakugan's relation to sharingan has not been proven wrong yet, that's my point.

You lack common sense

Kakashi doesn't know shit about the doujutsu lineage he has know acess to neither clan's secrets or history


The share fact he said "they say" proves he is not an authority on the matter

Kakashi = speculation
If the sharingan came from the byakugan it would've been clearly stated when we started getting insight about the sage & the senju & uchiha clans
If the sharingan did come from the byakugan why is said doujutsu out of the loop, period when it comes to the evolution to the rinnegan

Now tell me why the rinnegan sharingan & mokuton are the only things that can control The biju y not the byakugan
also

If u can't prove that the byakugan is decisively related don't say shit at all
Because there is absolute proof the sharingan comes from the rinnegan & nowhere is the byakugan stated to be in the cycle

 

[Booty Sage1914]

I think this is the correct Genealogy Tree of the Four Clans:

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From the Uzumaki and Hyuuga Bloodline came the union between Rikudou Sennin (Uzumaki) and The Hyuuga Ancestress

From this union came the Elder Son who established the Uchiha Clan and the Younger Son who established the Senju Clan.

The Uzumaki relatives of Rikudou Sennin are the direct ancestors of the present-day Uzumakis (Uzumaki Clan Leader, Mito, Nagato, Karin, Naruto,etc.)

The Hyuuga relatives of Rikudou Sennin's wife are the direct ancestors of the present-day Hyuugas (Hiashi, Hizashi, Neji, Hinata, Hanabi, etc.)

The present-day Uzumakis then are distant cousins of both the present-day Uchihas and Senjus through their paternal side (Rikudou Sennin)

The present-day Hyuugas are also distant cousins of the Uchihas and Senjus through the maternal side (Hyuuga Ancestress)

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Kishimoto's Parallelism

I think this is backwards. If the sages wife had the byakugan it would have been spoken more highly of throughout the series. The sage I don't believe was born with the rinnegan it was developed and before anything is developed it has to be studied. The only way you could teach a person to spit fire is to know the flow of chakra, where to form it and how to send it out. He himself had to know how thechakra network worked in order to make it do different things and the only way he could have done that is if he himself had the byakugan. If someone else identified the chakra network and figured out how to manipulate it they would have been the creator of ninjutsu instead of the sage.