[VS] Danzo (Danzo as the hokage) vs Hiruzen the 3rd Hokage

Danzo vs Hiruzen

  • Danzo

    Votes: 7 77.8%
  • Hiruzen

    Votes: 2 22.2%

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Kurama04

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Restrictions for Danzo is Ka
Field is where the 3rd died

The 3rd Hokage Hiruzen
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Chakra Natures

Earth Release
Fire Release

Well we do know that Hiruzen was known as the God of Shinobi.
He was able to fight Orochimaru full powered and with a down powered Hashirama and Tobirama with being mind controlled.

Even in his old age, his chakra was noted for being very strong. Similar to Hashirama, Hiruzen's chakra causes a dense effect on the atmosphere when released, cracking the building he and Orochimaru were battling on.[24] Furthermore, he was known for having immense reserves of chakra in his youth.[25] Despite his diminished reserves of chakra in his old age, he also showed great chakra control, needing only the minimum amount of chakra to use each technique.

In terms of taijutsu, Hiruzen displayed a very high level of skill in his old age. He was able to counter Hashirama and Tobirama in close combat, who were revived with Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation, though neither of them were at their full power due to Orochimaru's lack of mastery with the technique. He could lay an explosive tag on each of them without them or Orochimaru who was controlling them even knowing. After summoning Enma, he could break Hashirama's Wood Release branches with ease.

Even when robbed of his sight from the genjutsu Bringer-of-Darkness Technique, he could still defend himself from Hashirama's and Tobirama's assaults, blocking all their attacks to prepare for his Dead Demon Consuming Seal. After sealing both former Hokage, he faced Orochimaru in single combat. Despite his sealing parts of his soul away in the Shinigami, as well as fighting for a prolonged amount of time before he engaged Orochimaru one-on-one, he effortlessly disarmed him of his sword.

Hiruzen also had a personal summon: Monkey King: Enma, who was capable of turning into a diamond-hard staff, which could alter its length and width at will, or become a cage to protect the summoner. The staff was Hiruzen's weapon of choice as he showed great proficiency in wielding it; he successfully pushed back Kurama with it during its attack on Konoha.[29] Enma could also manifest parts of his body and attack an enemy with his claws and fangs, which added an element of surprise.

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We know that Hiruzen is quite powerful and has really good Taijutsu, Ninjutsu and really good senses.

Danzo Shimura was a temporary Hokage

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Chakra Natures

Wind Release
Water Release
Earth Release
Yin and Yang Release
Mokuton

Has Mangekyo Sharingan along with the Sharingan.

He has the power to do Izangi but incomplete but can still do it 10 times.

Danzō was a very powerful ninja, who even up until his death, was considered to be one of Konoha's best by the elders Homura and Koharu.[15] Danzō was able to easily kill several would-be assassins and fight on par with Sasuke Uchiha, despite holding back to fight Tobi, his old age, and Sasuke's extensive use of Susanoo, all the while being unable to use Shisui's Mangekyō Sharingan.

He was also very skilled at using the Sharingan, able to detect multiple assassins in an area and then massacring them all. He was also able to use Kotoamatsukami: the ability of Shisui's Mangekyō Sharingan, through which he could manipulate other people's thoughts without them being aware of it. This technique seemingly did not require direct eye contact, as demonstrated when Danzō manipulated Mifune's thoughts without exposing his Sharingan.

Danzō was proficient with Wind Release nature transformation. He could exhale from his mouth powerful vacuum-based attacks that could either slash like blades or pierce like bullets and if needed he could use enhanced or localised versions of these techniques. He could also use Wind Release to manoeuvre himself in mid-air. Danzō could also use chakra flow to enhance a kunai's offensive power by pouring his wind-natured chakra through it and in the anime, it was shown he could also add wind chakra to shuriken by holding it flat on his palm, and exhaling a stream of vacuum-like chakra onto the shuriken in a pin-wheel like fashion, turning them into massive buzz-saws. This greatly increases their attack range and cutting power when thrown. It should be noted that these shuriken do not lose their momentum when intercepted, and retain all their cutting power and range when blocked or redirected.

Danzō had shown a high level of knowledge and skill when using fūinjutsu and cursed seals. To prevent his secrets from being exposed, Danzō placed binding seals on the tongues of every Root member. Should a Root member speak openly of Root and Danzō's activities, the seal would activate and instantly paralyse the member's body. The seals vanished when Danzō died. Danzō could also implement binding seals in battle, which was shown when he placed the seal on Sasuke, temporarily paralysing him. Lastly, upon his death, Danzō revealed his most powerful sealing technique, the Reverse Four Symbols Sealing Technique. The technique caused four seal symbols on Danzō's skin to exit from his body and forms a large sphere around him. Everything inside the sphere was then drawn in and imprisoned within his corpse. After the sealing was complete, the seals could still be seen on Danzō's body.

Danzō had access to a very unique summoning, a giant tapir-like creature known as a Baku, described as the "Nightmare-Eater". The creature had the ability to suck in objects and targets within the area in front of it. The Baku's suction could also be used to increase the power of Danzō's wind techniques. However, using the suction left the creature vulnerable against fire techniques.

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Danzō was adept in both using and dispelling high-level genjutsu, even ones such as Sasuke's — albeit inept — Tsukuyomi. He also had some skill in taijutsu and a decent amount of physical strength despite his old age, being able to repel Karin with one kick. Danzō was also quite fast and agile as he was able to catch Sasuke off-guard and, in the anime, was able to evade a large amount of debris falling on him. Additionally Danzō was also skilled in the use of kenjutsu, as seen when he used a sword on more than one occasion in the battles against the Prajñā Group and Sasuke.

This info is from Naruto wikia.

We know these to ninja's are quite powerful. In an all out battle between The 3rd Hokage and Danzo this would be a tough battle in my opinion.

So who do you think will win this battle?
 
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Danzo easily because of Kotoamatsukami.
 

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it can be debated due to we needing to know the situation of the battle and what is limited and what has already been used, like Kotoamatsukami is a technique that Danzo can only use like once every 10 years.
 

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Danzo, really.

Remember a 70 year old Hiruzen was barely keeping up with Orochimaru and his pals whereas Danzo, even as an old guy, used a lot of techniques and Izanagi 10 times.

Unless you restrict Izanagi and Senju DNA and KA Danzo wins this.
 

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Danzo, really.

Remember a 70 year old Hiruzen was barely keeping up with Orochimaru and his pals whereas Danzo, even as an old guy, used a lot of techniques and Izanagi 10 times.

Unless you restrict Izanagi and Senju DNA and KA Danzo wins this.

Umm His pals were the 2nd and 1st Hokages maybe downpowered but still.. and he wasn't barely he was doing very well.
The only thing I will restrict his Ka because Ka>everyone
 

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Umm His pals were the 2nd and 1st Hokages maybe downpowered but still.. and he wasn't barely he was doing very well.
The only thing I will restrict his Ka because Ka>everyone

No, Hiruzen was getting crushed. He had to use RDS to get out of it with the minimum decency.

The first and second Hokage weren't above jounin level in that fight. They used 2 jutsus, a genjutsu which they didn't bank on ( they what, kicked Hiruzen? Why not launch a giant jutsu at him they are EDOs. ). To top that, Tobi and Hashirama weren't known for their taijutsu, which is what they mainly used there.

Meanwhile, Danzo held his ground against Sasuke without his strongest weapon at his disposal and only lost due to PnJ.
 

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No, Hiruzen was getting crushed. He had to use RDS to get out of it with the minimum decency.

The first and second Hokage weren't above jounin level in that fight. They used 2 jutsus, a genjutsu which they didn't bank on ( they what, kicked Hiruzen? Why not launch a giant jutsu at him they are EDOs. ). To top that, Tobi and Hashirama weren't known for their taijutsu, which is what they mainly used there.

Meanwhile, Danzo held his ground against Sasuke without his strongest weapon at his disposal and only lost due to PnJ.

They were so above jounin level. Even when robbed of his sight from the genjutsu Bringer-of-Darkness Technique, he could still defend himself from Hashirama's and Tobirama's assaults, blocking all their attacks to prepare for his Dead Demon Consuming Seal. After sealing both former Hokage, he faced Orochimaru in single combat. Despite his sealing parts of his soul away in the Shinigami, as well as fighting for a prolonged amount of time before he engaged Orochimaru one-on-one, he effortlessly disarmed him of his sword.
 

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They were so above jounin level.

How can you say that? All they did was use crappy rank C jutsus. Hashirama has Sage Mode, Wood Dragon, Wood Golem, Shinsusenju - he used neither.

Tobirama has S/T ninjutsu and he's the strongest suiton user ever yet he used a crappy technique Kakashi and Zabuza used.

That's not kage level. They didn't do squat.
 

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How can you say that? All they did was use crappy rank C jutsus. Hashirama has Sage Mode, Wood Dragon, Wood Golem, Shinsusenju - he used neither.

Tobirama has S/T ninjutsu and he's the strongest suiton user ever yet he used a crappy technique Kakashi and Zabuza used.

That's not kage level. They didn't do squat.

They didn't even have screen time because Hiruzen used Reaper death seal.
 

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danzo was older than hiruzen and still did much more impressive shit
Hashirama has Sage Mode, Wood Dragon, Wood Golem, Shinsusenju - he used neither.
he couldnt given oro didnt know about wood SM, and he cant exactly use that multi mountain sized buddha in the middle of konoha while inside a barrier

Tobirama has S/T ninjutsu and he's the strongest suiton user ever yet he used a crappy technique Kakashi and Zabuza used.
wheres it said or shown hes the "strongest suiton user"? ill wait
 

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OT- Hiruzen wins high diff with his feats. With hype, no diff. If you wanna debate, I'm down.

How can you say that? All they did was use crappy rank C jutsus. Hashirama has Sage Mode, Wood Dragon, Wood Golem, Shinsusenju - he used neither.

Tobirama has S/T ninjutsu and he's the strongest suiton user ever yet he used a crappy technique Kakashi and Zabuza used.

That's not kage level. They didn't do squat.

@bold- So much face palm that I can't even imagine.... :sy::sy::sy::sy::sy:
Show me a scan, right now, of someone saying Tobirama is the greatest Water Release User. :)
 
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