Half the reason Pain was an ass to fight was because his abilities were mostly unknown, and even when they figured it out he was OP.
The way I see it, just finding out his abilities would take a lot of steam off Sasuke, if he makes it that far at all.
For every Pain killed, killing the others just gets harder, he can focus on the ones left.
Sasuke's lack of summons will leave him overwhelmed.
Half the reason Pain was an ass to fight was because his abilities were mostly unknown, and even when they figured it out he was OP.
The way I see it, just finding out his abilities would take a lot of steam off Sasuke, if he makes it that far at all.
For every Pain killed, killing the others just gets harder, he can focus on the ones left.
Sasuke's lack of summons will leave him overwhelmed.
Sasuke doesnt need to find out abilities. He has offence defence genjutsu. Spam enton on sight.
Pain abilities are shared and have time interval, while sasuke has continuous fire-power
Sasuke doesnt need to find out abilities. He has offence defence genjutsu. Spam enton on sight.
Pain abilities are shared and have time interval, while sasuke has continuous fire-power
I wouldn't use the word "continuous."
I believe Pain has much more chakra and stanima compared to Sasuke,
But Sasuke would simply be overwhelmed. Pain has how many summons? Add all the paths in addition and it's just a pain to handle. He doesn't have the crowd control.
even sage mode naruto was able to destroy some with easy, and he don t have the fire power like sasuke do with susanoo. paths are overrated except for deva.
now sasuke can spam MS abilities even more compared with his fight with danzo.
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I am going to start with the basic paths abilities:
Animal path summon animals without the seals and has the power to summon other paths with seals. Amplification technique gives the animal a certain condition, when it’s met it gains a certain specified ability.
Asura paths abilities give it a mechanized armour with projectile missiles, and a chakra blast technique. It also has a very high offense as it ripped Jariya’s arm with brute strength. However, it is weak to lightening and was weakened by Kakashi’s lightening cutter who couldn’t do more, because he didn’t have enough chakra to reuse it.
Deva Path:
Bansho Tenin pulls the enemy towards the user and has a five second limit. It can attract multiple targets towards its self.
Shenrai Tensai repels physical objects and techniques. Large level shinra tensai can be used, but for this Nagato has to disconnected his chakra flow to the other paths and it greatly reduces the recovery of other paths.
Chibaku tensai allows the deva path to hurl an orb of gravity that pulls everything towards it. For this technique, the deva path should be close to Nagato and it puts an immense strain on his body.
Petra path has the ability to absorb any ninjutsu technique and if comes in contact with the user, he can absorb it straight out of their body.
Human path has the ability to suck the souls of those he touches and is able to read their minds as well.
Nakara path allows restoration and interrogation.
Here is what I think how Sasuke can put up a great fight.
Human path, Animal Path, and Petra Path:
The human, animal, and petra path are not immune to genjutsu as they were destroyed by Jiraiya before getting restored by Nakara path. Sasuke can put them under genjutsu, like he did with Bee and Shee:
Sasuke putting Bee under Genjutsu with MS:
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Now even if this genjutsu requires the opponent to look in Sasuke's eyes, he can simply pick Human and Animal Path with his sussano, that was quick enough to grab Kabuto in his DSM mode:
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. This can get at least one path out of the way with ease.
Nakara path is not a quick path at all, as even konohamaru was able to get it with a rassengan. He is more of a support, medic-nin ninja of the paths, who restores the destroyed bodies. All sasuke has to do is use Amatersu on him, as it quite unavoidable and very fast. It took A to use two techniques to avoid it. I seriously doubt that Nakara path is a quick path:
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Amatersu is almost unavoidable because it goes wherever the eye goes and instantly spreads if the eye is fully focused on the target:
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- Black Flames will burn on the point wherever the eye is focused.
- Sasuke using Amatersu on Hachibi and the flames almost instantly spread:
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And given his abysmal speed, that wouldn’t be a problem.
Amatersu cannot be absorbed by Petra path, as Kabuto opted for Shinra tensai to dispel it. It means this isn’t a ninjutsu that can simple be absorbed. Even if it can be absorbed then the absorption barrier doesn't seem quick enough like Amaterasu convergence point is. Sasuke can use the many variations of Amatersu on human path, animal path and its summoned animals – as they are huge targets for amatersu – and Nakara path to get them out of the way or keep a safe distance so that they cannot touch him.
Sasuke’s Blaze Release Magatama:
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Blaze release Kagutsuchi – Enton to encase his sussano in amatersu flames:
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The simple use of Enton manipulation to scatter flames and attack, which can also be used to guard:
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Using raw Amatersu around the sussano as a large wall to keep enemies at bey:
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This technique even eats through flames and is unaffected by water:
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Asura paths abilities give it a mechanized armour with projectile missiles, and a chakra blast technique. It also has a very high offense as it ripped Jariya’s arm with brute strength. However, it is weak to lightening and was weakened by Kakashi’s lightening cutter who couldn’t do more, because he didn’t have enough chakra to reuse it.
Asura Path was weakened by Kakashi’s lightening cutter, but Sasuke has a platheora of chidori variations under his belt to take it apart:
Kirin (Rank S) striking the ground in less than 1/1000 of a second:
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Chidori (A):
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Sword of Kusanagi (Rank B) can easily cut through steel. If the opponent is hit, their body goes numb due to the electrical current, and is impossible to move:
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Chidori Sharp Spear (Rank A). Once thrust, it can be shaped into additional daggers:
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Chidori Nagashi (A): current allows Sasuke to release chidori in every direction from his own body. It can double the defense if used on many enemies:
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.The person who is hit by it will get damaged and his muscles will become stiff. It can also be channeled through the ground to increase the range of attack:
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Chidori Senbon (Rank A) uses shape transformation, and the more the chakra use, the more the senbons. It becomes much more effective with sharingen, allowing Sasuke to target enemy’s vital parts:
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How can Kirin be prepared? That's way too easy. Given the heat produced by amatersu and if Sasuke just gives it a little push with Fire release: Great Dragon Fire Technique: it would be just that easy:
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. Thunder clouds will form in no time. Giving him full control to bend lightening at command, and no one is dodging or absorbing it:
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Sasuke used up all chakra for that jutsu alone:
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It was used to manipulate the rising air current and create the rain cloud:
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He took advantage of Amatersu heat as well :
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Now Sasuke can also use arrows to take out Nakara path from the very beginning. Not only are they too fast to avoid, but they cannot be blocked given their piercing nature:
Kakashi had to resort to a Kamui to barely survive them, that's how quick they are:
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- Sasuke’s arrow going clean through a very thick Cavern spike.
Deva Path is the actual problem. Its attraction technique can be avoided as Naruto did so by creating a barrier of clones. Its limit is five seconds. If naruto can accomplish it with a bunch of clones, Sasuke can very well do so with level four Sussano:
Complete Sussano is extremely large:
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Its erection is extremely fast as Itachi was able to erect it before the lightening hit it, and it’s much faster that the speed of sound:
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Sasuke cannot dispel shinra tensai, nor can he do anything about Chibaku Tensai. But, both the abilities are extremely powerful that if used (Shinra Tensai), are enough to weaken the 6 paths but Nagato has to disconnect the 6 paths to even use the former on a large scale and both require a bit of preparation time.
The thing is, Sasuke will face problem because Deva will simply repel every attack except raw amatersu as it’ll require a powerful shinra tensai to repel it and it’ll severally disrupt the rest of the paths, creating a huge opening for Sasuke to take the fight. Also given its 5 second limit, Sasuke will use it to his advantage.
And if Sasuke is able to maintain kirin or take out the other paths quicker, this would be Sasuke's win but with very high difficulty. The thing is, constant enton spam would create thunder clouds without a doubt, and no path is faster than 1/1000th of a second as the page suggested. They will get burn to a crisp. And if Sasuke is smart enough to take out Nakara path, along with Deva path, the fight is over.
It all depends upon how the scenario plays. With kirin at his disposal and a wide array of Amatersu and chidori techniques, fire jutsus, Sasuke's god-like speed, genius status and tactical ability, along with Complete sussano who was a better defense than Gaara's at MS level:
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. Its arrows and grab abilities. The ability to sense chakra behind solid objects even:
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This fight will go in Sasuke’s favour given all the points I have posted.
I wouldn't use the word "continuous."
I believe Pain has much more chakra and stanima compared to Sasuke,
But Sasuke would simply be overwhelmed. Pain has how many summons? Add all the paths in addition and it's just a pain to handle. He doesn't have the crowd control.
Out of all path only deva and petra have chance of surviving 1 shot.
Deva can use shinra once every 5 sec. shoot an arrow and follow with amaterasu and he is done. petra falls for genjutsu. Others already died from enton shurikens, the ones sasuke used on zetsu. It has very high fire rate most likely even deva dies in next 2 sec.
Well u got the picture
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I am going to start with the basic paths abilities:
Animal path summon animals without the seals and has the power to summon other paths with seals. Amplification technique gives the animal a certain condition, when it’s met it gains a certain specified ability.
Asura paths abilities give it a mechanized armour with projectile missiles, and a chakra blast technique. It also has a very high offense as it ripped Jariya’s arm with brute strength. However, it is weak to lightening and was weakened by Kakashi’s lightening cutter who couldn’t do more, because he didn’t have enough chakra to reuse it.
Deva Path:
Bansho Tenin pulls the enemy towards the user and has a five second limit. It can attract multiple targets towards its self.
Shenrai Tensai repels physical objects and techniques. Large level shinra tensai can be used, but for this Nagato has to disconnected his chakra flow to the other paths and it greatly reduces the recovery of other paths.
Chibaku tensai allows the deva path to hurl an orb of gravity that pulls everything towards it. For this technique, the deva path should be close to Nagato and it puts an immense strain on his body.
Petra path has the ability to absorb any ninjutsu technique and if comes in contact with the user, he can absorb it straight out of their body.
Human path has the ability to suck the souls of those he touches and is able to read their minds as well.
Nakara path allows restoration and interrogation.
Here is what I think how Sasuke can put up a great fight.
Human path, Animal Path, and Petra Path:
The human, animal, and petra path are not immune to genjutsu as they were destroyed by Jiraiya before getting restored by Nakara path. Sasuke can put them under genjutsu, like he did with Bee and Shee:
Sasuke putting Bee under Genjutsu with MS:
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Sasuke putting Shee under Genjutsu:
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Now even if this genjutsu requires the opponent to look in Sasuke's eyes, he can simply pick Human and Animal Path with his sussano, that was quick enough to grab Kabuto in his DSM mode:
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. This can get at least one path out of the way with ease.
Nakara path is not a quick path at all, as even konohamaru was able to get it with a rassengan. He is more of a support, medic-nin ninja of the paths, who restores the destroyed bodies. All sasuke has to do is use Amatersu on him, as it quite unavoidable and very fast. It took A to use two techniques to avoid it. I seriously doubt that Nakara path is a quick path:
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Amatersu is almost unavoidable because it goes wherever the eye goes and instantly spreads if the eye is fully focused on the target:
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- Black Flames will burn on the point wherever the eye is focused.
- Sasuke using Amatersu on Hachibi and the flames almost instantly spread:
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And given his abysmal speed, that wouldn’t be a problem.
Amatersu cannot be absorbed by Petra path, as Kabuto opted for Shinra tensai to dispel it. It means this isn’t a ninjutsu that can simple be absorbed. Even if it can be absorbed then the absorption barrier doesn't seem quick enough like Amaterasu convergence point is. Sasuke can use the many variations of Amatersu on human path, animal path and its summoned animals – as they are huge targets for amatersu – and Nakara path to get them out of the way or keep a safe distance so that they cannot touch him.
Sasuke’s Blaze Release Magatama:
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Blaze release Kagutsuchi – Enton to encase his sussano in amatersu flames:
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The simple use of Enton manipulation to scatter flames and attack, which can also be used to guard:
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Using raw Amatersu around the sussano as a large wall to keep enemies at bey:
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This technique even eats through flames and is unaffected by water:
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Asura paths abilities give it a mechanized armour with projectile missiles, and a chakra blast technique. It also has a very high offense as it ripped Jariya’s arm with brute strength. However, it is weak to lightening and was weakened by Kakashi’s lightening cutter who couldn’t do more, because he didn’t have enough chakra to reuse it.
Asura Path was weakened by Kakashi’s lightening cutter, but Sasuke has a platheora of chidori variations under his belt to take it apart:
Kirin (Rank S) striking the ground in less than 1/1000 of a second:
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Chidori (A):
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Sword of Kusanagi (Rank B) can easily cut through steel. If the opponent is hit, their body goes numb due to the electrical current, and is impossible to move:
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Chidori Sharp Spear (Rank A). Once thrust, it can be shaped into additional daggers:
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Chidori Nagashi (A): current allows Sasuke to release chidori in every direction from his own body. It can double the defense if used on many enemies:
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.The person who is hit by it will get damaged and his muscles will become stiff. It can also be channeled through the ground to increase the range of attack:
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Chidori Senbon (Rank A) uses shape transformation, and the more the chakra use, the more the senbons. It becomes much more effective with sharingen, allowing Sasuke to target enemy’s vital parts:
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How can Kirin be prepared? That's way too easy. Given the heat produced by amatersu and if Sasuke just gives it a little push with Fire release: Great Dragon Fire Technique: it would be just that easy:
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. Thunder clouds will form in no time. Giving him full control to bend lightening at command, and no one is dodging or absorbing it:
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Sasuke used up all chakra for that jutsu alone:
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It was used to manipulate the rising air current and create the rain cloud:
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He took advantage of Amatersu heat as well :
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Now Sasuke can also use arrows to take out Nakara path from the very beginning. Not only are they too fast to avoid, but they cannot be blocked given their piercing nature:
Kakashi had to resort to a Kamui to barely survive them, that's how quick they are:
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- Sasuke’s arrow going clean through a very thick Cavern spike.
Deva Path is the actual problem. Its attraction technique can be avoided as Naruto did so by creating a barrier of clones. Its limit is five seconds. If naruto can accomplish it with a bunch of clones, Sasuke can very well do so with level four Sussano:
Complete Sussano is extremely large:
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Its erection is extremely fast as Itachi was able to erect it before the lightening hit it, and it’s much faster that the speed of sound:
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Sasuke cannot dispel shinra tensai, nor can he do anything about Chibaku Tensai. But, both the abilities are extremely powerful that if used (Shinra Tensai), are enough to weaken the 6 paths but Nagato has to disconnect the 6 paths to even use the former on a large scale and both require a bit of preparation time.
The thing is, Sasuke will face problem because Deva will simply repel every attack except raw amatersu as it’ll require a powerful shinra tensai to repel it and it’ll severally disrupt the rest of the paths, creating a huge opening for Sasuke to take the fight. Also given its 5 second limit, Sasuke will use it to his advantage.
And if Sasuke is able to maintain kirin or take out the other paths quicker, this would be Sasuke's win but with very high difficulty. The thing is, constant enton spam would create thunder clouds without a doubt, and no path is faster than 1/1000th of a second as the page suggested. They will get burn to a crisp. And if Sasuke is smart enough to take out Nakara path, along with Deva path, the fight is over.
It all depends upon how the scenario plays. With kirin at his disposal and a wide array of Amatersu and chidori techniques, fire jutsus, Sasuke's god-like speed, genius status and tactical ability, along with Complete sussano who was a better defense than Gaara's at MS level:
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. Its arrows and grab abilities. The ability to sense chakra behind solid objects even:
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This fight will go in Sasuke’s favour given all the points I have posted.
Well first off Deva's St was only blocked by Naruto's Clones Because it was A weaker ST A strong ST could e a mtach for susunoo
I agree sasuke would take out asura path with Kirin .. And during the fight with deva path kirin would be useless seeing as he coan only create one ... a fight and you stated hed use it on asura path.. Besides Kirins speed is overrated it takes 1/1000 second to hit the ground but it has prep time as well and St lasts more then 1/1000 of a second so Deva Could Easily Prepare for it ..
And Visual Genjutsu doesnt Work On pain hence Why Sound Genjutsu Had to be used
I believe Sasuke Takes All But Deva And Human path
