Jiriaiya, Hashirama, Naruto, SO6P dumb idiots?

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Apparently the people who believe in PEACE through LOVE, are considered Idiots by some of the members on here. Peace through love is a REAL LIFE ideology. There are many in real life who believe this. So why are the people in the title considered idiots?


Peace is not a joke. Its a firm belief where people co-exist in harmony. Nor is it a stupid ideology that can never be achieved. And for the ones saying Jiraiya, Naruto , Hashirama , SO6P are idiots or fools say this statement, " They aren't rational enough to think that people can't understand each other. " BUT THAT IS NOT THE POINT OF THEIR CHARACTERS.

The point of Jiraiya, Naruto and Hashirama and SO6P is to tell the readers that there are people who believe that all of us can understand each other and co-exist in this world. NOTICE HOW THOSE PEOPLE ARE THE "GOOD GUYS".

Also, there aren't many who call the SO6P and Jiraiya a idiot or a fool, but those same people call Hashirama and Naruto fools. That doesn't make any sense.

If your calling Naruto a fool your calling the SO6P , Jiraiya, and Hashirama fools. And vice-versa.


Main point: People killing and genocide characters aren't more "REALISTIC" then people who believe in Peace by love. If you believe that I suggest you go read books or go travel around the world. The people I mentioned are in fact as realistic as a person can get. (in regards to beliefs)
 

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it said failuchihafans... and you forgot itachi and shisui
 
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peace is only a false hope which keeps the people of a falling nation moving foward. true peace will never be achieved because even when theres peace there will always be conflict
 

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Agreed, kids nowadays think being dark is "cool" all the time, leading to some Uchiha fanboys being produced.
 

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peace is only a false hope which keeps the people of a falling nation moving foward. true peace will never be achieved because even when theres peace there will always be conflict

still, you must fight towards that goal. Or we might as well just nuke the whole planet and get it over.
 
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still, you must fight towards that goal. Or we might as well just nuke the whole planet and get it over.

well of course and you made a great point but i just believe that we as the human race will never reach an actual thing as true peace. its just an absurd ideology of those who are weaker and scared to fight to get what they rightfully deserve.
 

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well of course and you made a great point but i just believe that we as the human race will never reach an actual thing as true peace. its just an absurd ideology of those who are weaker and scared to fight to get what they rightfully deserve.

The "strong" also believe in Peace... not only the weak. You cannot get peace, when you have people saying "human race will never reach an actual thing as true peace."
 
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The "strong" also believe in Peace... not only the weak. You cannot get peace, when you have people saying "human race will never reach an actual thing as true peace."

the strong want peace cause they get tired of wasting effort and money on something that is so easily won. and what i stated is true, we as the human race will never achieve true peace. if im wrong can you please tell me how it would even be possible
 

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I read in an interview that the main message behind Naruto, is that we shouldn't give up on the world. That even thought the world is so screwed up, people could get along.
 

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well of course and you made a great point but i just believe that we as the human race will never reach an actual thing as true peace. its just an absurd ideology of those who are weaker and scared to fight to get what they rightfully deserve.

Absurd ideology? Of those who are weak and scared? Sorry dude, but a couldn't desagree more.
And what does "rightfully deserve" really means?

Imagine i'm a foreign in your country working hard to have money to live nicely.
Yet, i'm "stealing" a job from you, a job you don't want in the first place because it's not well paid and... and i'm cleaning toilets!
Then you go extremist and blame all foreigns. You are the weak and scared! You don't fight for yourself, for a better future, but rather wage a war against those you believe to be the bad guys.

The weak and scared are the ones creating all the conflict. They are not strong. They are stupid and rather have us all fighting each other than helping us get along.
The guns manufactures for example. Of course those bastards don't want peace and they'll say you can't reach such idiotic ideology and we will always fight. It's how they make money to go on nice vacations, have nice cars and stuff, will you barely have money to eat.

smh... sorry dude about the rant, but it's not idiotic or absurd ideology, it's just an ideology you either embrace or deny it.
You choose what path you want and how you'll walk it.


And doesn't fighting leads to more fighting?

"Fighting" is not a word just for physical confrontation. Words can be a better weapon than guns.
You choose what path you want and how you'll walk it.

the strong want peace cause they get tired of wasting effort and money on something that is so easily won. and what i stated is true, we as the human race will never achieve true peace. if im wrong can you please tell me how it would even be possible

Didn't get the bold.
Thou if you're talking about the greedy (not the strong), they just like to say: i'm rich enough to waste my money wherever i want. Oh i'm tired you waging wars and destroying things. Know i'll use the money i've gained rebuilding everything and making a little more money and ppl will like me because i'me they're saiviour... (something like that)
 
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